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[Vinalians]

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[mariokart]

because pokerstars has a networth of 4.8billion you can't really compare their security with this sites
wpn is shady to begin with and i doubt they care as long as youre generating rake and not abusing promos, if that's not good enough wpn has wrongly accuses players, so has almost every other gambling based business.
these security systems aren't perfect, but imo i feel better about the site knowing they take security seriously.

You also don't need to be using the same ip for collusion, ((like you said you wasn't))
And they didn't randomly ban just you 2, that happen to know each other, you most likely got reported by players (not that hard to spot) and they reviewed your hand history.
Your post only makes you look more guilty with these claims
You most likely was cheating and now you're both complaining because your funds was frozen.

I wonder why you're assuming the site was ok?
If you watch the video, no handhistories were reviewed and there were a lot of signs that point towards the two players not colluding, but the site did not care, their decision was final and they refused to review further facts.
There were also simply put not enough hands to establish the claims the site made, any poker player would know this but the site's security team do not understand poker.

I feel like at this point this site is more dangerous than the colluders themselves, just confiscating money based on correlations without proof, and refusing to review. Has the money confiscated been redistributed to players? I would bet a lot that the site is keeping all of it.

[sowns]

because pokerstars has a networth of 4.8billion you can't really compare their security with this sites
wpn is shady to begin with and i doubt they care as long as youre generating rake and not abusing promos, if that's not good enough wpn has wrongly accuses players, so has almost every other gambling based business.
these security systems aren't perfect, but imo i feel better about the site knowing they take security seriously.

You also don't need to be using the same ip for collusion, ((like you said you wasn't))
And they didn't randomly ban just you 2, that happen to know each other, you most likely got reported by players (not that hard to spot) and they reviewed your hand history.
Your post only makes you look more guilty with these claims
You most likely was cheating and now you're both complaining because your funds was frozen.

I wonder why you're assuming the site was ok?
If you watch the video, no handhistories were reviewed and there were a lot of signs that point towards the two players not colluding, but the site did not care, their decision was final and they refused to review further facts.
There were also simply put not enough hands to establish the claims the site made, any poker player would know this but the site's security team do not understand poker.

I feel like at this point this site is more dangerous than the colluders themselves, just confiscating money based on correlations without proof, and refusing to review. Has the money confiscated been redistributed to players? I would bet a lot that the site is keeping all of it.

Tbh, redistributing the money to the other players would probably not change a thing considering the players are still out money. It’d be even worse if it turns out they weren’t actually colluding and weren’t reimbursed. Besides, is that even a thing in the poker community?

[mariokart]

I'm not sure I understand you post.
My point was that the site is keeping the money to themselves.

In most poker sites when someone is banned for collusion, effected players are reimbursed.

Either way, my main point is that as you can see from the email correspondence, the players were banned without looking at play history or handhistories based on very circumstancial and partial evidence, and letting the site get away with this is a dangerous precedent.

One of the issues with a crypto poker site like this is - these guys are holding a lot of money, and can dissappear with it at a moment's notice - and you'd have no address to complain to - because there is no official company or person behind the site.

When this is the situation, they need to be extra careful and clear to do only trustworthy and transparent actions, or trust is gone.

If I'm wrong about this and there is a public company or figure standing behind this site, please let me know.

[sowns]

I'm not sure I understand you post.
My point was that the site is keeping the money to themselves.

In most poker sites when someone is banned for collusion, effected players are reimbursed.

Either way, my main point is that as you can see from the email correspondence, the players were banned without looking at play history or handhistories based on very circumstancial and partial evidence, and letting the site get away with this is a dangerous precedent.

One of the issues with a crypto poker site like this is - these guys are holding a lot of money, and can dissappear with it at a moment's notice - and you'd have no address to complain to - because there is no official company or person behind the site.

When this is the situation, they need to be extra careful and clear to do only trustworthy and transparent actions, or trust is gone.

If I'm wrong about this and there is a public company or figure standing behind this site, please let me know.

Yeah, that makes a lot more sense then what I thought you were referring to xD. According to this: https://coindelite.com/ico-press-release/crypto-poker-club-launching-next-generation-blockchain-powered-poker-platform/, “Mark Jameson” is your public person over at this site at a cursory glance( I haven’t really look in to the site so take this with a massive grain of salt, especially since there’s no contact info.)

[mariokart]

This is one of the issues causing a conflict of interest. If a player is banned - the site keeps his funds.
This means it is in their direct financial interest to ban players with large account balances.

I've read the post - does anyone know who Mark Jameson is, or what country crypto poker club is registered in?
Is this a real company with an address we can go to if shit hits the fan?

Or is this a misuse of the crypto technology to remain anonymous and unaccountable while holding other peoples' money?

All poker sites have a real address and company behind them and their have been lawsuits in the past about people being wrongfully banned - but I'm not sure any legal recourse is possible when the people behind the company are hidden/invisible - which raises an alarming question regarding the inherent conflict of interest here.

[mariokart]

You also don't need to be using the same ip for collusion, ((like you said you wasn't))
And they didn't randomly ban just you 2, that happen to know each other, you most likely got reported by players (not that hard to spot) and they reviewed your hand history.
Your post only makes you look more guilty with these claims
You most likely was cheating and now you're both complaining because your funds was frozen.

You post only makes you look more like a casino rep.

Seriously... you can't take someone to court, decide he's guilty, and then when he refutes things you say respond with "that only makes you look more guilty".

What's going on here is very kafkaesque and very disturbing and if you weren't a casino rep I'd be surprised you don't see that.

[TaoDang]

Hi,

My name is Ian. I am the affiliate that introduced them to the site and was hoping to bring crypto poker club traffic. They signed up before i managed to get my own affiliate account on the site. I asked to tag them to my account but was unable to do so. They were flagged for being the same person after about two week on the site. I was a player until last week on their site. I withdrew and received my funds. The way the site has handled the case has taken my confidence to play on the site and to recommend other players to play on the site.

Simple facts are a site has the right to refuse anyone's business. There is other sites that refused costumers for a number of reasons. But sites cant just confiscate funds at will and not be accountable. The site has acted above the law in regards to this case and made itself jury,judge and executioner. This is a very bad image and makes the whole crypto space look very bad.

After their accounts got banned. I approached the reps and told them the details and provided a lot of evidence that these are clearly not the same people. In return they have shown no evidence of collusion or wrong doing. All they have provided is circumstantial evidence that can easily be explained away.

This is a very bad image for the crypto space and i still hope the site can see sense and remedy the situation.

[tortic25]

because pokerstars has a networth of 4.8billion you can't really compare their security with this sites
wpn is shady to begin with and i doubt they care as long as youre generating rake and not abusing promos, if that's not good enough wpn has wrongly accuses players, so has almost every other gambling based business.
these security systems aren't perfect, but imo i feel better about the site knowing they take security seriously.

You also don't need to be using the same ip for collusion, ((like you said you wasn't))
And they didn't randomly ban just you 2, that happen to know each other, you most likely got reported by players (not that hard to spot) and they reviewed your hand history.
Your post only makes you look more guilty with these claims
You most likely was cheating and now you're both complaining because your funds was frozen.

I wonder why you're assuming the site was ok?
If you watch the video, no handhistories were reviewed and there were a lot of signs that point towards the two players not colluding, but the site did not care, their decision was final and they refused to review further facts.
There were also simply put not enough hands to establish the claims the site made, any poker player would know this but the site's security team do not understand poker.

I feel like at this point this site is more dangerous than the colluders themselves, just confiscating money based on correlations without proof, and refusing to review. Has the money confiscated been redistributed to players? I would bet a lot that the site is keeping all of it.

You're right i am making assumptions. The video was unreadable even at 1080p "atleast for me" so the only thing both of you have provided that i can go on is you claiming you didn't use the same ip
And if that's true it's a fact, if they where randomly banning to steal funds it wouldn't be just you 2 here
And since you both admit to being "friends" it's not a coincidence. there's only one other way they found 2 people connected and that's by being reported and investigated.
You say that they didn't review your hand history, but the video looked like it was basing everything off of a conversation with support, and ive never seen any support reveal their investigation method only the conclusion which i can only assume is what you got from that conversation "so i don't know how you're claiming your history wasn't reviewed" because i doubt they would tell you if they did or didn't.

You also don't need to be using the same ip for collusion, ((like you said you wasn't))
And they didn't randomly ban just you 2, that happen to know each other, you most likely got reported by players (not that hard to spot) and they reviewed your hand history.
Your post only makes you look more guilty with these claims
You most likely was cheating and now you're both complaining because your funds was frozen.

You post only makes you look more like a casino rep.

Seriously... you can't take someone to court, decide he's guilty, and then when he refutes things you say respond with "that only makes you look more guilty".

What's going on here is very kafkaesque and very disturbing and if you weren't a casino rep I'd be surprised you don't see that.

And it does make you look more guilty because like i said above if you where using the same ip, there would be room for confusion/mistakes
I never decided you where guilty or even said you where, i said you most likely are.

this is a forum not a courtroom, honestly this is worse then your comparison of this site with pokerstars.

i have seen countless post where cheaters got caught and cried because there funds was frozen, i haven't seen any where viable proof was actually provided.

Not me or any other forum user here has the facts to say for certain you where cheating, theres too much missing.

your story relies on alot of coincidences being true and that's why "i may look like a rep" because i'm not going to side with someone whos """likely""" a cheater scamming other players while harming this sites rep.
"btw i haven't even played here before" that's why i was browsing this thread, to decide.  My current opinion is unbiased and if you post any viable proof that proves you're innocent then ill be behind you.

[mariokart]

This is a link to a post containing excerpts of the emails:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/cryptopokerclub-seizing-funds-deposits-not-safe-1745287/

Please look through it and then tell me what you think. If the details in the video were hard for you to view, you should state that when replying - since it does contain all the correspondence with the site. Giving an opinion without knowing any of the details is a bit premature.

The site did not even claim that the same ip was used.

[tortic25]

This is a link to a post containing excerpts of the emails:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/cryptopokerclub-seizing-funds-deposits-not-safe-1745287/

Please look through it and then tell me what you think. If the details in the video were hard for you to view, you should state that when replying - since it does contain all the correspondence with the site. Giving an opinion without knowing any of the details is a bit premature.

The site did not even claim that the same ip was used.

I still can't see the "email" but assuming everything was their exact response



""with identical playing stats""
this is possible esp since they're basing it off only 3000 hands


""""we have no choice but to ban the accounts regardless of what may or may not be the case. We have very strict rules on this to preserve integrity. This is not the first or last time we will see such cases. Our reaction will always be the same. This will be our last response on this query."""

This is them admitting they may or may not have made the correct decision, and refusing to investigate it further with 16000$ on the line.
This is probably the only thing that matters

But this is still just me making assumptions, i can't verify they sent it or that if they did send it, it's exactly how they put it.

Aside from that, i see chazley made a post saying they're shady.
someone i respect and have a history with, pretty sure hes trusted by alot of people here too so that helps.

If you truly want to expose this site here's the proof i think you will need to provide.
1:A clear image of the email with the sender.

2:If you used a hud or have your hand history files those would help. they're accusing you of  similar play styles which isn't how reviewing for collusion works
You said a majority of those hands weren't played at the same tables, and collusion depends on if you played against each other or with "making folds/raises" that players wouldn't normally make otherwise.
It would help to see how many of those 3,000hands where played together, and a copy of both of your histories for those hands played together "so we could see both of your hole cards"

3: like the post on the other thread said "letters from ISP that confirms your story about the IP sharing" or activity logs to confirm that those ips where even showing the same or not and if the patterns matchup.
isp confirmation would be better then having the activity log, but if you're unable to get their cooperation i think there's a few different ways to get the activity log that could help you out.

4: leave this thread and create a scam accusation thread so the proof you provide won't be scattered in the 17pages here, and so others can share their proof that will further support your claims.

[swogerino]

I just saw this thread and I am excited to try the windows desktop software which looks similar to zynga poker.The deposit bonus I think it is still valid and I like to see the activity in this site.Many crypto gamblers are suffering from the lack of activity in crypto poker sites so I hope this one to be lively in activity.

[mariokart]

Thank you Tortic that is good advice, I'll look into it. Will post a link here when the thread is ready.

[mariokart]

Your claim was "Either you are controlling both accounts or know the suspect and are working together to gain an advantage."
It's clear that I'm not controlling both accounts, as the owner of the second account has come forward and we are both well-known and thus neither of our identities is fake.
So, the other possibility remains: collusion, that we have been working together to gain an advantage.
To that end, our login times, IPs and individual play patterns are irrelevant.
The onus is on you to show that our play patterns have deviated when playing in the same table compared to when playing in different tables.
You have done nothing of the sort, so there is no basis for the accusation of gaining an advantage.

Hence, your claim is baseless. You have no reasonable basis for the assumption of collusion, and thus you are not entitled to the money in the account.
Moreover, this claim puts me at risk of reputational damage, as a person teaching others for a living. If you do not withdraw these unfounded claims, I will be forced to pursue reparations.

Attached is a point by point reply to your "evidence" document.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fbQ0wXlWytBk53keNE-Njf95_yyFGBYg

Thanks,
Uri

[CryptoPokerClub]

News

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The iOS App is currently in development and will be released later in 2019!

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Good luck on the tables 

[DreamStage]

Please give it a try! We welcome all feedback and aim to continue building out the platform. Mobile Apps on iOS & Android are scheduled to be out within 1-2 weeks. For the moment we have our windows software and web client. Windows is far ahead of development and quality for the moment but we are working on it! I suggest downloading the windows client for the best experience!

As promised i see you guys have released finally. Good Job!
That looks so good, you will need also to update your post with such news information @CryptoPokerClub

By the way will there be any new currencies added to your site? Specially the main top 5 ones from coinmarketcap and so on?
Loved to hear about them from you to see. As this will boost both your site on web, windows client and android

[mariokart]

@Cryptopokerclub you not replying to my points shows very clearly you have no interest in the truth but only in keeping the money you stole from me.

Are you really comfortable ignoring this? Do you not care what actually happened?

Not replying to relevant points and requests to make information public looks really bad for you...

I am getting a stronger and stronger feeling you guys really need the money you confiscated from my account - was it used to develop your android app? Seems very clear you have a very strong motivation to keep it as real and relevant points have been made, any reasonable person would be worried about being wrong and take the situation seriously. Why haven't you made the handhistories public, and how can you expect anyone to trust you with the one-sided, obtuse and aggressive way you've been handling this?

[CryptoPokerClub]

Please give it a try! We welcome all feedback and aim to continue building out the platform. Mobile Apps on iOS & Android are scheduled to be out within 1-2 weeks. For the moment we have our windows software and web client. Windows is far ahead of development and quality for the moment but we are working on it! I suggest downloading the windows client for the best experience!

As promised i see you guys have released finally. Good Job!
That looks so good, you will need also to update your post with such news information @CryptoPokerClub

By the way will there be any new currencies added to your site? Specially the main top 5 ones from coinmarketcap and so on?
Loved to hear about them from you to see. As this will boost both your site on web, windows client and android

Thanks for your warm words! News information will be updated. We are looking to support more coins in the future as well as a exchanging coins inside the platform its self. This is on the roadmap along with the iOS app which should be released by the end of this year.

Aside from platform updates, we also have been releasing new competitions and bonuses every month. We started a new profit series which will be updated monthly. Check out the last one here: https://medium.com/@CryptoPokerClub/monthly-profit-series-may-2019-e0f09fea32e7

We look to improve the poker experience both from the technological perspective as well as making it more profitable for players.

As for any and all allegations/trolls - anyone is more than welcome at any point to document their entire journey of depositing, playing then withdrawing without issues. You will see that our mission is to protect players and there are never any issues unless you create one.

[mariokart]

It is not trolling when you confiscate funds without due procedure. You can keep ignoring it and calling it a troll as much as you want... as you said people will judge for themselves.
No need to resort to name-calling. Lets stick to the facts? I've asked for you to make certain information public and pointed out why your conclusions were wrong. Still waiting for a reply. Only reason I'm doing this in public is that you don't reply to emails. Why don't you care about the truth???

[Gamblerrrr]

GUYS, CryptoPokerClub ITS 200% SCAM!!!
just read 2+2, all professional poker players agree, that its impossible to win there(even if you too lucky and win somehow, they will just dont pay lol)
Im not sure what exactly there happen(superaccounts that can see your cards, teamplayers or bots), but I played 5-6kk hands during my career and saw same shit only on IDN poker(cheating room with proven superaccounts)
-2k$ for me, dont be stupid and greedy like me, dont belive in their bonus(its impossible to give such bonuses and earn money for pokerroom(stupid me again, its so obvious))
DONT DEPOSIT THERE!!

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/cryptopokerclub-seizing-funds-deposits-not-safe-1745287/