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January 10, 2014, 02:23:24 AM
Last edit: January 14, 2014, 08:27:34 PM by philipma1957
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 I am trying to make  full list.  WINNERS losers   general stats. No hating  just looking for accurate figures. Also trying to have links for every round.

    I will list the usd paid for a round and the usd collected and the usd paid back.  I realize lots of us want btc roi, but I have no way to tell when you purchased a share thus I do not know how much btc you spent.
  I spent 110 usd on 1 share of a round 17 when btc was more then 1000 usd. I spent 130 usd on another share of round 13 when btc was 700 usd. My btc for some of those round 17 shares was .2 btc for others .11 btc. I purchased 12 shares over 6 purchases and paid 6 different sets of btc prices. Yet round 17 has only 2 usd per share prices.


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R1  Hashfast  no gear late  a loss  so far of  1.55 btc a share  at the time about 150 usd.      I have 1 share. Multiple prices on r1-r4

R2 Hashfast   no  gear late  a loss so far  . I have no shares

R3 Hashfast   no gear late  a loss so far.  I have no shares

R4 Hashfast  no gear  a loss. I have no shares

I read  a lot of info on these rounds and pretty much very complicated to determine the price of a share as they prices bounce around a lot.  bottom line is Hashfast failed everyone so far. including all of us at dz coop

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=296199.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=274055.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=299171.0

New info
our loss for round 1 is 58 btc paid on the 18 of aug 2013 about 6 k on that day.  now a lot more 46k to 48k
 the loss for round 2 is 5k it was always done as usd then switched to baby jet and bumped to 6100 usd
the loss for round 3 is 6k
and the loss for round 4 is 6k

comes to over 24k and extra shares were purchased so closer to 27k usd in losses
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R5  KNC    this was 78 usd a share   for about 5.5gh A HUGE WIN IN USD   I have 10 shares

R6  KNC    this was 78 usd a share  for about 5.5gh A  HUGE WIN IN USD
I have 9 shares



over 300 usd a share collected for 78 usd price per share

100 shares at 78 = 7800usd in for round 5
100 shares paid 412 = 41200 usd paid back for round 5
http://www.dzminercoop.com/?page_id=124

100 shares at 78 = 7800usd in for round 6
100 shares at 419 = 41900 usd paid back for round 6
http://www.dzminercoop.com/?page_id=135

round 5   plus 33000 usd
round 6   plus 34000 usd
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R7 Bitmine  no gear late  a loss so far I find an entry for 48.7 btc collected I do not have enough info to full flesh out round 7 or 8 still researching the info available.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=308512.0
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll87/SurfSkateKauai/DZMinersCooperative-Bitmine800GHs-Round7.png 53btc in oct 9 about 6625 usd

R8 Bitmine no gear late  a loss so far.    I did not buy into this

  As near as I can tell  there are 200 shares sold at 60 or 70 each about 13000 usd loss
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R9  Black Arrow  this was 123 usd a share  a win in usd

R10 Black Arrow this was 123 usd a share a win in usd

R11 Black Arrow this was 123 usd a share a win in usd

R12 Black Arrow this was 123 usd a share a win in usd


  cash in per share 123 usd cash out per share 286 usd

r9-r12 has been bunched together 400 shares that should hash at 3.3 gh.  the gear breaks a lot while dz coop has made efforts to keep our hash rate at the proper levels they have not  done so and are short over 16 btc across the 400 shares due to shortfall of hash rate promised.
 with all that this buy still made a usd profit.  but every share is about  .04 btc short   or about 32 bucks a share.  rough estimate but I am 95% sure it is close on the low end . at 32 usd a share.


400 shares at 123 = 49200 usd in 117,662 usd out    a very nice win in USD

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=328996.0
http://www.dzminercoop.com/?page_id=302

I had 11 shares of r9-r12 I sold 6 of them I now have 5 shares.
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R13 cancelled with a refund   [A push]

R14 cancelled with a refund [a push]
I had no shares.
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R15 KNC   has been hashing  it has some gear issues

R16 KNC   has been hashing  it also has some gear issues .  I missed this buy in I know the gear hash rate  not worked as well as it should but I do not know the exact numbers.  some help on this would be nice in replies.

it looks like 115 usd a share in and 121 usd a share out so far.

http://www.dzminercoop.com/?page_id=1192
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=368000.0
https://blockchain.info/address/1LQ4jvG2toLwxwhVv5m7Mwh1pCnbT7hoXt
200 shares
23000 usd paid in
24295 usd paid back     so this is a winning group

I was busy and missed this buy in 0 shares here.

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R17 Black arrow   waiting  on time a push  usd price 110-130 usd for a share of 40gh.  I have 12 shares 480gh

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R18 bitmine  70 usd a share still on time due in 10 days or so. About 10th to 15 gh a share.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=336828.0

I missed this buy in 0 shares.
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R19  what is this one can't find it?  Thanks to railzand  here is the answer  Neptune KNC price was 225-250 usd  on schedule for April

there where 2 machines 50 shares each  100 shares total

http://www.dzminercoop.com/?product=r19-2-knc-neptune
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R20 LTC rigs this was moved to alternate coins will research it some more   This is lost can't find it still looking for the thread.

http://www.dzminercoop.com/?product=r20x-ltc-ultra-power-rig-212-144-160khs-20-min-upsbatteries-dz-mc-exclusives
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R21 Bitmain Ant miner.. Mining as of today.  135 usd a share for about 7.2gh a share.

50 shares at 135 a share or 6750 usd in  718 usd back   seems a bit over price I need to check this better.

http://www.dzminercoop.com/?product=r21-bitmain-antminer-s1-1-gb-share-135-7-2ghs-dz-mc-exclusives
http://www.dzminercoop.com/?page_id=1491
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R22 Bitmain ant miner. Mining as of today
http://www.dzminercoop.com/?product=r22-bitmain-antminer-s1-1-gb-share-94-7-2ghs-dz-mc-exclusives
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R23  future will start soon here is a link
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=411877.0
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R24  future

R25 future

please feel free to  add info So I can make a clear listing

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January 10, 2014, 02:23:36 AM
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January 10, 2014, 02:23:50 AM
Last edit: January 10, 2014, 02:44:06 AM by philipma1957
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SAVED SPACE 2



please add info about the rounds.. what was usd price for your shares and what was btc price for the shares.  thanks.

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January 10, 2014, 06:33:55 AM
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http://www.dzminercoop.com/?product=r19-2-knc-neptune

great idea phil, thanks

now will you please for the love of all things stop banging on about dollar returns. you know i'm lightheartedly joshing with you, but the fact remains we small timers maybe not you, nowadays have to pay dzmc in bitcoins for our shares. also whats a push?

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January 10, 2014, 11:27:04 AM
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http://www.dzminercoop.com/?product=r19-2-knc-neptune

great idea phil, thanks

now will you please for the love of all things stop banging on about dollar returns. you know i'm lightheartedly joshing with you, but the fact remains we small timers maybe not you, nowadays have to pay dzmc in bitcoins for our shares. also whats a push?


  I only use USD because  rounds prices are listed in usd. Not because I believe in that method. (I figured It would get a comment or two but thats cool).
Thanks for round 19 info.

   a push is a tie . so the 2 rounds that were refunded would be a push.  it comes from  a bet on a sports game .  lets say your basketball team was a 2 point favorite and wins by 2 points the bet would be a tie or a push no winner or loser.

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January 10, 2014, 11:32:36 AM
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yes of course the only constant was the dollar price. i take it all back. and i'd never heard that push (usenglish) = tie/draw (ukenglish). well

will try and provide you some details...

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January 10, 2014, 11:47:29 AM
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yes of course the only constant was the dollar price. i take it all back. and i'd never heard that push (usenglish) = tie/draw (ukenglish). well

will try and provide you some details...

Was watching us version of Sherlock Holmes last night on free tv CBS.

 He said cock up instead of fuck up.  There was a time I did not know they are one in the same.  

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January 10, 2014, 10:21:49 PM
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yes of course the only constant was the dollar price. i take it all back. and i'd never heard that push (usenglish) = tie/draw (ukenglish). well

will try and provide you some details...

Was watching us version of Sherlock Holmes last night on free tv CBS.

 He said cock up instead of fuck up.  There was a time I did not know they are one in the same.  

Ha! Ya gotta love English blokes and that accent.  Wink

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January 11, 2014, 12:21:58 AM
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bumping to the top.

to DZ

my brooklyn new york accent is killer after 2 or 3 beers it really gets good. or as Robert De niro  would say 'you talking to me'

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January 11, 2014, 08:52:05 AM
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I do not have an 'accent'

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January 14, 2014, 08:00:22 PM
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 rounds 1 to 4  are about a 26000 usd loss----------------------who knows if any will be hashed or refunded

rounds 5 + 6 are about a 67000 usd gain------------------close to perfect rounds.  maybe 2 or 3 btc short due to a glitch around the 26-30 of dec

rounds 7 +8 are about a 13000 usd loss------------------------who know if any will be hashed or refunded.

rounds 9-12  are about a 66000 usd gain------------------we are also roughly 16 btc short or about 13000 usd due us.

rounds 13 + 14 were fully refunded

rounds 15+16 are about a 2600 usd gain-------------------  they are short hash I will take some time to understand the net owed.

round 17  is due to hash in feb+ mar      this is huge and most of the coop's cash is right here.     Not late is still on time I hope  

round 18 is due in a few weeks

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January 16, 2014, 01:20:04 AM
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Rounds 5 + 6  are now about:

  345.77  x 100 =  34,577
 352.58 x 100   =  35,258
 total----------------69,835 usd

 we are in the black  no mention or addressing of small short fall of hash around Dec 27th to Jan 2  machines acted wrong did not register hash at btc.  bottom line is a 1-2.5 shortage of btc across 200 shares or about .005 - .0125 btc a share
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Rounds 9 -12   174.82 usd x 400 = 69928 usd ahead.

no mention that we were short 11-13 btc on jan 1st and due to short hashing are now short 16-18 btc  across 400 shares this is about .04 to .045 a share.

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Rounds 15-16   21.60 x 200 =  4320 usd in the black  but also a hash shortage.

they are now close to normal and I will try to figure an estimate of the shortage.
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Round 21 is hashing

and as of today is done 111.74 x 50 = 5587 usd.  but it is new   and that is to be expected for now

round 22 is hashing and is down  4098 usd but it is also new and that is an okay number for now.

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My concerns are  not much with 5+6.
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  but 9-12 is   getting more in the hole every pay period. right now we are back at normal hash but 16-18 btc is a lot of coin.to be down.

what happens if coins go to 3k .  .
we need to address this problem. Now sure how but something some plan needs to be done.
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As for r15 and 16 I am not sure how much it is in the hole btc wise  maybe some 15+16 holders can chip in.

I left out all non hashing  rounds

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January 16, 2014, 07:02:50 AM
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 These round sheet-thingies by mootinator - thanks! - work well for a rough idea: http://www.dzminercoop.com/?page_id=1192

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