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May 22, 2018, 03:17:07 PM
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Congratulations!
I hope that those who have gotten their 100 merit could also help me to attain such by sponsoring a puzzle.
I am focusing on giving merit too thru a Bitcoin Forum Puzzle.
The Bitcoin related Cryptographic Puzzle could be sponsored by a member (giver of reward merit);
Once another user cracked and successfully answer the puzzle, a merit reward will be given.
You can visit the thread here at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3103583.msg32048143#msg32048143
Again congratulations, btw a user who have posted more than 150 before merit started could have acquired initial 10 merit.
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May 22, 2018, 03:23:58 PM
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Congratulations OP, you’ve done it the hard way. Is there really only 3 posters who have ranked up since the Merit system was introduced?

Oh & fuck all the jealous posters in here trying to belittle your achievements, they’re only jealous.

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May 22, 2018, 03:36:56 PM
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Congrats OP. I'd say some people are just plain jealous that they can't earn as much merit as you did. sMerits are pretty much limited by now and I don't think you have cheated your way to get that much merit. The fact is, I think everybody that gave you merit is conscious enough to decide for themselves if you do deserve to receive that merit. Looking at your merit, you received plenty of merit from people that would likely not give merit just for kicks.

Edit: Oh by the way, I think I just discovered xtraelv has been abusing the merit system. If DT members could check his merit summary you will see that he has been exchanging merit with user Lafu back and forth.

Edit 2: Well, I think OP beat me to it, I hope some DT members could check on this guy. Ref: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg37797512#msg37797512

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May 22, 2018, 03:47:07 PM
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Edit: Oh by the way, I think I just discovered xtraelv has been abusing the merit system. If DT members could check his merit summary you will see that he has been exchanging merit with user Lafu back and forth.

Sherlock - Let me save you some time - Read here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4031390.0

On the comment section you will find some uncomfortable comments like # # # etc (so far). I respect everyone's views but when it's showing anger, frustration from prior conflict of interests especially baseless accusations in most cases then it worth investigating before getting biased.

Here is a list of some members, I find annoying characters to me (just for me btw). They will try to bring everything (anything) they can with their baseless accusations (in my opinion, for you to make a conclusion - please investigate then justify). I try (will try) to avoid their negative inputs except they bring something good on the table.

Username(u=)              Reason                                          Ref(not the least)/started                    
digaran(u=806776)  Has possible mental issues, self declared lawyer  # # # # # #
xtraelv(u=897509)  A twisted mind, thinks himself a scam buster  # # # # #
bigmelons25(u=1978475)  Mad, disrespectful, racist  #



If you are going to do show and tell make sure you show them the UPDATED posts rather than just the ones that you think make you look good.

Your post wasn't posted at the date of the post - it showed reserved for a long time. You've only posted that in the last hour or so.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4019640.msg38055077#msg38055077
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg37774968#msg37774968



All the abuse and multi thread posts are just a distraction. Just answer the question and accusations  

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May 22, 2018, 04:45:02 PM
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Oh & fuck all the jealous posters in here trying to belittle your achievements, they’re only jealous.

I'm certainly not jealous of the time OP spends merit farming. I just think he's trying to utilize tactics that have worked for others to gain additional merit. He even referenced these threads that have previously been posted to celebrate rankings that have received merit. I simply believe there's an ulterior motive to this and don't approve of kool-aid sipping echo chamber merit threads. If members continue to receive merit for these, we're setting a precedent that will lead to more 'YAY 100 MERIT' threads. I'm over it.

I think it's fascinating that so many members+ delete posts that aren't receiving merit prior to the server updating activity count in order to make it seem like they have a higher quality contribution. We regularly condemn newbies for posting too much, but completely ignore members+ who have posted hundreds of times in 2 weeks because they know how to game the system. Seems slightly hypocritical to me.

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May 22, 2018, 05:48:43 PM
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Everything about this post is what's wrong with the forum... you're clearly bragging about merit farming on a post to congratulate yourself to farm more merit.

Here are some highlights I've been gathering about your method:

Talk down to people you are in the pool with to separate yourself out. (check)
Constantly make your accomplishments seem like normality to make other's complaining about it seem like crybabies to appeal to longtime posters. (check)
Constantly post only in merit relevant posts and also act condescending towards others and to draw attention to your posts. (check)
Make milestone posts bragging about merit to in essence be front page newsworthy to farm more merit. (check)
Congratulate all your haters to seem like you're above it. (check)


You really got it, dude... you have found the perfect way of manipulating the system, and a deadset formula to how to push it into your favor... wonder what happens when everyone becomes carbon copies of you... imagine how really great this forum will really be.

I used to want to play this game when I first started.  But the more I see you abuse it, the less interested I really am. 

Surely we can all agree that one one word posts that aren't in English isn't a good way of determining ranks.. and obviously, activity wasn't the solution to this problem... but is this as an example above, what people really wanted in this system?  He isn't the problem.. the fact that this as a strategy and works, in my opinion, is.


My 2 pesos... take it or leave it.

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May 22, 2018, 06:31:23 PM
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I am gonna ignore xtraelv and digaran types. The added section under the OP explains it better. It's ok not to waste the time in negative energy.

Thank you EVERYONE for all the good words and wishes. I really appreciate it.


I'm not sure why your focus was on those starting with 0 merit. There are many members who have built on their basic rank allotment, and have received a few hundred additional merits. If your focus was on new members with single accounts, then it would be interesting, but
I know there are like sncc said however, the motive behind creating the original topic is to inspire new members especially who are starting from 0 merit. I have full support for the members who started with even 10 to 1000 initial merits. I saw claims like "start from zero merit then you will see how hard it's to get merit."

Most of the low rank members (below Member or Member) thinks that higher rank members like Sr, Hero, Legendary receive merits easily and they don't. The  list of 0 to 100+ merits is a list to show them that they are completely wrong. Perhaps this could change their mindset. An example is already here in this topic.

I suspect that some in your list could be alts of established members.. That's just a guess, and I haven't done any investigation.
I actually did not have it in mind but isn't it a prove that getting merit is not how they (new members) look at it when they start from nothing?



I'm wondering how come you can create 800 posts in such a short time? I registered two weeks after you, and here I am only trolling on this forum. Your post count is just a hardcore tryhard, damn! But, your effort speaks for itself though. I guess I'd be more motivated. My goal is only 10 atm.
I do not have a day job to do or any active business that requires a lot of time. So mostly, all day I spend on the forum.  Grin
I am glad the topic gives you positive vibe. Hang on here and you will reach your goal sooner or later.


Is there really only 3 posters who have ranked up since the Merit system was introduced?
Are you meaning them? Nice joke btw  Smiley


Edit: Oh by the way, I think I just discovered xtraelv has been abusing the merit system. If DT members could check his merit summary you will see that he has been exchanging merit with user Lafu back and forth.

Edit 2: Well, I think OP beat me to it, I hope some DT members could check on this guy. Ref: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3168616.msg37797512#msg37797512
Thanks for the vouch @Qartersa



Alone055, atrocityx, Dilemmaremma - I have full respect on your views. In a community we won't always find people with same interest.


I thought to make a new post with a response to everyone so, I deleted the reserved space earlier.

PS: Good to see the melon guy again. Hello!  Roll Eyes


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May 22, 2018, 08:36:49 PM
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Congratulation on your first 0,1K Merits!

I was reading the whole thread and was astonished how it seems more like a war zone than anything else. It seems that, over time, this kind of topic doesn’t provide the excitement that the initial ones created, where champagne bottles were being virtually uncorked throughout the thread, injecting intravenous moral for the OP while petting the ego gently. 
Perhaps there could be a subsection for merit achievements, but the thread would be pretty rawboned…
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May 22, 2018, 08:38:34 PM
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If my memory serves me right then this is the 3rd time you are reading another 100 merit celebrating topic. Earlier today I crossed my 100 merits milestone and I am excited, I mean super excited.

There are few members in my memory who only can feel this excitement. This is a list of members started from 0 merit AFAIK:
iasenko 100+ merit celebration => Full Member thanks to the Merit system.
DdmrDdmr: Genius data analysts.
theyoungmillionaire: Example of a fighter who bounced back.
coinlocket$: Contributing the forum finding abusers plus another data analyst I guess.
bitmover: 100+ merit celebration => Finally! 101 merit and 84 activity!! Celebration Post! My thoughts on merit.
Husna QA: Outstanding tutorial creator in his/her local language.
and not the least  nullius <=== This person is out of everyone's league. Not sure if s/he feels the excitement or not.

There are more I am sure. Please remind me their name in the comment bellow. I would like to create a full list for 0 to 100+ merit achievers in the reserved comment section below to show the members who think(!):
Merit system is not working, failed!
Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
You can get merit, If you have money
Why is it complicated to get merits
Haven't got any sMerits since the system was introduced
... the list keeps going on and on in the meta section.

I am happy and feel unfortunate that I started from 0 merit. Every merit I receive gives me excitement. I feel recognition of contribution. It's the mindset and attitude. A person with right attitude and mindset, can achieve anything. All these people above in the list (and below coming soon) are master in something. Being a newbie was never been easy but not end of the world like most of the newbies think. We all were newbies once.

My younger brother introduced me the forum, in last December(2017). I am blessed that after around one month, merit system were introduced. First I felt a little uncomfortable, thought it's injustice for new comers etc etc but then I started to realise that I am wrong. It has been introduced for a good cause and I need to respect and support the cause. I need to change myself to earn it.

Merit means nothing at all if you can not earn it. I regret that I received my first 4 merits from my younger brother (please don't justify until you read the explanation) but it's not reversible so I can not do anything about it. Once I realised the needs of changing myself, I started to focus on spending more time in the forum. I like the community so it was not hard for me to spend hours after hours in the forum. More time means more reading, writing, engaging, exploring, discovering new things which eventually helping me to learn new set of skills. I ended up learning things that I had no prior clue (signing a bitcoin address, PGP Encryption/Decryption). I even believe If I was not a member of this forum then I would never be able to learn the skills for the lack of discovering it in the first place. Every night before I log out from the forum I feel my improvements.


It's not even all about learning new skills and knowledge, I made some good friends (?) here. We share knowledge, agree, disagree - all sorts of things.
The best ever happened when The Pharmacist said this...
I have plenty of respect for about 20 maybe 50 people total on this forum and you're actually one of them.

I would like to thank every single person who is consistently agreeing me, disagreeing me, supporting me, ignoring me, liking me, hatting me. Nothing counts except the achievements that gives me great feeling.


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Thanks to the merit system.


ah come on why do you take merit so important and trash your life with it? no one knows how many years this forums will continue to life on. it might be gone in 3 years.

this forum is just all about bitcoin core cheerleading, it will be replaced by better forums

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May 24, 2018, 12:50:48 AM
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...and trash your life with it?
Where did you get this idea LOL
My life is very much ok, in fact better than the average (with due respect) people.


Update:
I was reading the whole thread and was astonished how it seems more like a war zone than anything else.
- Everyone has their own freedom of speech however making it a war zone - really is a pity. May be they feel good by doing it. Let them be - who cares.

By the way thanks for the wish mate. Keep up the good works.


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May 24, 2018, 01:06:12 AM
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OP is jjust sucking the dick of high ranks.  You can tell that worm is just going around fishing for merit, he doesn't actually contribute much to this forum.
That isn't true, though.  Even if he wants to get merit--which a lot of people do, and it's a hot topic around here--he does contribute to bitcointalk, and his posts are well-constructed, and you can tell he puts some thought into them.  His grasp of English isn't perfect, but it's perfectly acceptable.  I've given him a few merits since Janurary because I thought the posts I merited were worthy of them.  

There are many members here who make posts that you can tell are just attempts at squeezing merits out of suckers, but those posts tend to be very poorly written and the content is usually a sentiment that's been expressed many times before.  Mdayonliner's posts, by comparison, are constructive and he's done a good job reporting cheaters.  I respect anyone who does that, unless they prove themselves to somehow be a scumbag otherwise, and that has happened.

I'm not getting involved in this beef between xtraelv and mdayonliner any more than I have and won't unless it becomes very obvious that something is amiss.  At present I have no problems with either member.

Is there really only 3 posters who have ranked up since the Merit system was introduced?
No, I don't think that's true.  There was a thread about members who've ranked up since the end of January, and there were more than three if I recall correctly.  And I am glad that there haven't been many people ranking up, because most of them are spammers and don't deserve to.

By the way, anyone know what happened to nullius?

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May 24, 2018, 12:49:40 PM
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Congratulations, man for hitting 100-merit milestone.
You are one of the most motivating case studies that constructive users can rank up with or without merit system.

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May 24, 2018, 01:12:39 PM
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By the way, anyone know what happened to nullius?


I was always a bit cautious about him. I felt that he was a bit of a shooting star, and unfortunately he was unlikely to become a permanent member. I'm sure he was/is an alt. The interesting question is whether he is an alt of an existing member, or some other Bitcoin personality. Give it a month or so, and people will be suggesting he is Satoshi himself. Smiley

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I felt that he was a bit of a shooting star
That guy is probably an alt of Theymos, another alt as an effective to demonstrate that there are big odds to rank up with merit system.
Nevertheless, I feel very impressive with what that guys done, both knowledge, skills, smart approach to express ideas and beg for merits (just kidding).

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May 24, 2018, 09:19:06 PM
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If merit is that exciting to you for you to make a post about getting 100(to earn more, no doubt), maybe you shouldn't have received any.

Merit is a reward for good posting, but it shouldn't be the sole focus of your time here, which seems to be the case.

I don't understand why people cannot just learn to separate issues around here. You create a posts around merit, its castigation, you don't get merit, you don't rank up. You agree with people their opinion, you are tagged slaves among other things. I really don't see anything wrong in what he is doing. People should be free to do what they want so far they believe they create value and someone who is impressed by it merits it. I don't think anyone is force to give it merit and as at the time of reading this, no one has given him a merit. I have given someone a merit simply because he gave advise on how to earn merit in a decent way and this is only highlighting how some people who have 0 merits and worked the way up as form of encouragement to those who complain about how unfairly skewed the merit system is from the way I see it.

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May 24, 2018, 09:31:23 PM
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I realized that I hadn't merited you at all,so I gave you one. Your guides and posts in general are more than good enough. I have read your posts quite a few times and found them helpful/thoughtful and even insightful. Congratulations.
Give it a month or so, and people will be suggesting he is Satoshi himself. Smiley
People already have,have a look: Who is nullius? #nulldox

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May 24, 2018, 10:01:24 PM
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Shortly before his sudden disappearance, he was turned in to a newt. Perhaps he is still out searching for the ingredients for the cure, which may explain his absence from the forum.

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May 25, 2018, 09:00:27 AM
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Congrats on your new achievement. There's this thing I have noticed, once a talk about merit pops up, the Ops history is being dug up and fingers starts to point and argument gets hitted up and what happens next is history. Let's celebrate merit achievements without pointing fingers to how it was farmed everyone knows the merit deal.

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Congratulations, I'm wondering how come you can create 800 posts in such a short time? I registered two weeks after you, and here I am only trolling on this forum. Your post count is just a hardcore tryhard, damn! But, your effort speaks for itself though. I guess I'd be more motivated. My goal is only 10 atm.

Remember me? Once you've put some effort to make a post that has some benefit, you'll get merits. Look at my merit, it's indeed increasing. It's not a rocket science. Maybe I'll create some more decent quality post in the future, or I'll just chill and shill. At least, what OP's doing is like a morale boost. Damn, 900+ posts! Get a real life bro! Smiley

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Congratulations, I'm wondering how come you can create 800 posts in such a short time? I registered two weeks after you, and here I am only trolling on this forum. Your post count is just a hardcore tryhard, damn! But, your effort speaks for itself though. I guess I'd be more motivated. My goal is only 10 atm.

Remember me? Once you've put some effort to make a post that has some benefit, you'll get merits. Look at my merit, it's indeed increasing. It's not a rocket science. Maybe I'll create some more decent quality post in the future, or I'll just chill and shill. At least, what OP's doing is like a morale boost. Damn, 900+ posts! Get a real life bro! Smiley

Yes I can recall. I am glad that the motive of creating this topic has paid off. At-least one person found it inspiring and working on improving. When I am replying you, you have now 17 merits. 2 to 17 in in no time (less than 2 days). Jet Cash was asking me why I was focusing on those starting from 0. I saw a need for mental support, motivation, collection of examples for these newbies who think starting from 0 is really hard to rank up.


I'm not sure why your focus was on those starting with 0 merit. There are many members who have built on their basic rank allotment, and have received a few hundred additional merits. If your focus was on new members with single accounts, then it would be interesting, but
I know there are like sncc said however, the motive behind creating the original topic is to inspire new members especially who are starting from 0 merit. I have full support for the members who started with even 10 to 1000 initial merits. I saw claims like "start from zero merit then you will see how hard it's to get merit."

Most of the low rank members (below Member or Member) thinks that higher rank members like Sr, Hero, Legendary receive merits easily and they don't. The  list of 0 to 100+ merits is a list to show them that they are completely wrong. Perhaps this could change their mindset. An example is already here in this topic.



Congratulations! Keep up the good work.



Congratulations, man for hitting 100-merit milestone.
You are one of the most motivating case studies that constructive users can rank up with or without merit system.
I realized that I hadn't merited you at all,so I gave you one. Your guides and posts in general are more than good enough. I have read your posts quite a few times and found them helpful/thoughtful and even insightful. Congratulations.
Congrats on your new achievement. There's this thing I have noticed, once a talk about merit pops up, the Ops history is being dug up and fingers starts to point and argument gets hitted up and what happens next is history. Let's celebrate merit achievements without pointing fingers to how it was farmed everyone knows the merit deal.
- Thanks guys, I appreciate these kind words.

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- People have freedom of speech. Your attitudes reflects your achievements. I don't mind it at all (their negative inputs). I am very clear about what I am doing here.

PS: Seems like I need to change the topic title a bit, the community is missing nullius. I do wonder why did he disappear. Hope he is in good heath and ok.


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