Obligatory I'm not dead or running post

[freedomno1]

Should a scam accusation thread be opened  
Seems a bit unusual but at this stage it may make sense to move towards the next level factoring in Johns past reputation and the time it has taken, still worth noting.
Still somewhat in denial why he would scam on change considering his standard escrows but delivering by a set deadline is important and this is 3 months late
I believe the only escrow he has presently is coinroll's 100 bitcoins though

[faiza1990]

Should a scam accusation thread be opened  
Seems a bit unusual but at this stage it may make sense to move towards the next level factoring in Johns past reputation and the time it has taken, still worth noting.
Still somewhat in denial why he would scam on change considering his standard escrows but delivering by a set deadline is important and this is 3 months late
I believe the only escrow he has presently is coinroll's 100 bitcoins though

In past 3 months just 2 posts and no response is almost too much for coinroll winners to do this but still some wait and calm is better and if some one want to open scam accusation its his right

[freedomno1]

Should a scam accusation thread be opened  
Seems a bit unusual but at this stage it may make sense to move towards the next level factoring in Johns past reputation and the time it has taken, still worth noting.
Still somewhat in denial why he would scam on change considering his standard escrows but delivering by a set deadline is important and this is 3 months late
I believe the only escrow he has presently is coinroll's 100 bitcoins though

In past 3 months just 2 posts and no response is almost too much for coinroll winners to do this but still some wait and calm is better and if some one want to open scam accusation its his right

Someone had to say it, was expecting a few more knives for that one but it is getting long waiting on an escrow, if it was anyone else but John we would have opened a thread a long time ago, since I don't have any coins on it if someone else wants to make it then that should be their own prerogative to do so
Aka don't flame them for dissing John ^^
Preferably someone in the coinroll raffle that won

[Polycoin]

This is what everyone in this forum should do, leave the forum, go to another forum that isn't run by Scamming Administrators such as John and Theymos. Anyone that leaves for 3months+ and still hasn't returned, who also has 1,000 Bitcoins, is a scammer. No way around it.

I've thought of countless situations John could be in, hospitol, too much hw, moving to another place, working in a job, starting a new project, kidnapped by somalian pirates, sent to Narnia.. and in all those situations, he has access to a Computer(any decent somalian pirateship has a Macbook these days..). The only conclusion here is that John realized he needed the money to pay for his college tuition, also realized that no one has any real info about him besides a fake facebook profile, and got the Ok from Theymos to go ahead and do the scam.


Think about it, John's only handling 1,000 Bitcoins, thats less than 800k in real life, plus he has staff status. 800k is a pretty small amount compared to say 10,000 bitcoins. He probably thinks that 1k Bitcoins is the ideal amount he should scam, since he thinks its too "little" for the authorities to charge him for or some shit..He's a college kid for christ sakes.

Overall Message: John k=scammer, Theymos=scammer and liar, Leave Bitcointalk.org, find/make another forums.

[Liam W]

This is what everyone in this forum should do, leave the forum, go to another forum that isn't run by Scamming Administrators such as John and Theymos. Anyone that leaves for 3months+ and still hasn't returned, who also has 1,000 Bitcoins, is a scammer. No way around it.

I've thought of countless situations John could be in, hospitol, too much hw, moving to another place, working in a job, starting a new project, kidnapped by somalian pirates, sent to Narnia.. and in all those situations, he has access to a Computer(any decent somalian pirateship has a Macbook these days..). The only conclusion here is that John realized he needed the money to pay for his college tuition, also realized that no one has any real info about him besides a fake facebook profile, and got the Ok from Theymos to go ahead and do the scam.


Think about it, John's only handling 1,000 Bitcoins, thats less than 800k in real life, plus he has staff status. 800k is a pretty small amount compared to say 10,000 bitcoins. He probably thinks that 1k Bitcoins is the ideal amount he should scam, since he thinks its too "little" for the authorities to charge him for or some shit..He's a college kid for christ sakes.

Overall Message: John k=scammer, Theymos=scammer and liar, Leave Bitcointalk.org, find/make another forums.

Well, that's an awfully large accusation. I bet you have no proof either...

Liam

[Polycoin]

This is what everyone in this forum should do, leave the forum, go to another forum that isn't run by Scamming Administrators such as John and Theymos. Anyone that leaves for 3months+ and still hasn't returned, who also has 1,000 Bitcoins, is a scammer. No way around it.

I've thought of countless situations John could be in, hospitol, too much hw, moving to another place, working in a job, starting a new project, kidnapped by somalian pirates, sent to Narnia.. and in all those situations, he has access to a Computer(any decent somalian pirateship has a Macbook these days..). The only conclusion here is that John realized he needed the money to pay for his college tuition, also realized that no one has any real info about him besides a fake facebook profile, and got the Ok from Theymos to go ahead and do the scam.


Think about it, John's only handling 1,000 Bitcoins, thats less than 800k in real life, plus he has staff status. 800k is a pretty small amount compared to say 10,000 bitcoins. He probably thinks that 1k Bitcoins is the ideal amount he should scam, since he thinks its too "little" for the authorities to charge him for or some shit..He's a college kid for christ sakes.

Overall Message: John k=scammer, Theymos=scammer and liar, Leave Bitcointalk.org, find/make another forums.

Well, that's an awfully large accusation. I bet you have no proof either...

Liam

Titles really don't matter do they..You say I have no proof, You're right in a sense, I'm giving you possibilities. What are you giving? Defending someone who made a thread that "everything is going ok", then not hearing from them for months on end, and on top of that, they have no real verification either. You're one gullible bastard, or another one of Theymos pawns.

It's so funny that you stand up for a guy who hasn't bothered to even log on and give an explanation to anything for months on end, oh did I mention he has 1,000 Bitcoins in his possession? Seems to me like you've forgotten that.

[Liam W]

This is what everyone in this forum should do, leave the forum, go to another forum that isn't run by Scamming Administrators such as John and Theymos. Anyone that leaves for 3months+ and still hasn't returned, who also has 1,000 Bitcoins, is a scammer. No way around it.

I've thought of countless situations John could be in, hospitol, too much hw, moving to another place, working in a job, starting a new project, kidnapped by somalian pirates, sent to Narnia.. and in all those situations, he has access to a Computer(any decent somalian pirateship has a Macbook these days..). The only conclusion here is that John realized he needed the money to pay for his college tuition, also realized that no one has any real info about him besides a fake facebook profile, and got the Ok from Theymos to go ahead and do the scam.


Think about it, John's only handling 1,000 Bitcoins, thats less than 800k in real life, plus he has staff status. 800k is a pretty small amount compared to say 10,000 bitcoins. He probably thinks that 1k Bitcoins is the ideal amount he should scam, since he thinks its too "little" for the authorities to charge him for or some shit..He's a college kid for christ sakes.

Overall Message: John k=scammer, Theymos=scammer and liar, Leave Bitcointalk.org, find/make another forums.

Well, that's an awfully large accusation. I bet you have no proof either...

Liam

Titles really don't matter do they..You say I have no proof, You're right in a sense, I'm giving you possibilities. What are you giving? Defending someone who made a thread that "everything is going ok", then not hearing from them for months on them, and on top of that, they have no real verification either. You're one gullible bastard, or another one of Theymos pawns.

It's so funny that you stand up for a guy who hasn't bothered to even log on and give an explanation to anything for months on end, oh did I mention he has 1,000 Bitcoins in his possession? Seems to me like you've forgotten that.

I was intending to only defend theymos, not John. He really should've come back. It really does look like he's a scammer, at least to me.

I hope it's not the case.

Liam

[hilariousandco]

This is what everyone in this forum should do, leave the forum, go to another forum that isn't run by Scamming Administrators such as John and Theymos. Anyone that leaves for 3months+ and still hasn't returned, who also has 1,000 Bitcoins, is a scammer. No way around it.

I've thought of countless situations John could be in, hospitol, too much hw, moving to another place, working in a job, starting a new project, kidnapped by somalian pirates, sent to Narnia.. and in all those situations, he has access to a Computer(any decent somalian pirateship has a Macbook these days..). The only conclusion here is that John realized he needed the money to pay for his college tuition, also realized that no one has any real info about him besides a fake facebook profile, and got the Ok from Theymos to go ahead and do the scam.


Think about it, John's only handling 1,000 Bitcoins, thats less than 800k in real life, plus he has staff status. 800k is a pretty small amount compared to say 10,000 bitcoins. He probably thinks that 1k Bitcoins is the ideal amount he should scam, since he thinks its too "little" for the authorities to charge him for or some shit..He's a college kid for christ sakes.

Overall Message: John k=scammer, Theymos=scammer and liar, Leave Bitcointalk.org, find/make another forums.

Well, that's an awfully large accusation. I bet you have no proof either...

Liam

Titles really don't matter do they..You say I have no proof, You're right in a sense, I'm giving you possibilities. What are you giving? Defending someone who made a thread that "everything is going ok", then not hearing from them for months on end, and on top of that, they have no real verification either. You're one gullible bastard, or another one of Theymos pawns.

It's so funny that you stand up for a guy who hasn't bothered to even log on and give an explanation to anything for months on end, oh did I mention he has 1,000 Bitcoins in his possession? Seems to me like you've forgotten that.

1000 of who's Bitcoins? He gave the forum's back then disappeared again, unless he has others. No idea why he'd give them back but keep the hundred from the raffle, but whatever's going on clearly this isn't acceptable or respectable behaviour.

[freedomno1]

Just to note that by extension if Theymos got his coins back and then John did not return the coinroll coins it does cast a shadow of doubt on Theymos although we cannot blame him for Johns actions

Anyways thats about as far as the accusation against Theymos on this case can go
Guess if John immediately reappears then that would be interesting as well

[tysat]

Just to note that by extension if Theymos got his coins back and then John did not return the coinroll coins it does cast a shadow of doubt on Theymos although we cannot blame him for Johns actions

Anyways thats about as far as the accusation against Theymos on this case can go
Guess if John immediately reappears then that would be interesting as well

theymos did get the forum's coins back from him

[freedomno1]

Just to note that by extension if Theymos got his coins back and then John did not return the coinroll coins it does cast a shadow of doubt on Theymos although we cannot blame him for Johns actions

Anyways thats about as far as the accusation against Theymos on this case can go
Guess if John immediately reappears then that would be interesting as well

theymos did get the forum's coins back from him

That is the point tysat, if Theymos receives preferential treatment instead of fair treatment like everyone else then there is an issue.
Since John is 1* months late on the coinroll raffle and has not returned since January to give out the coins he owes the raffle winners it becomes a plausible observation.
We cannot blame Theymos for Johns actions cannot state that enough after returning the coins to the forum but it still does cast a shadow on the fairness of it all.

Since John only has that one escrow their can be a slight suspicion that Theymos received preferential treatment, since John returned the forums coins almost immediately after Theymos sent out his PGP signed message which is a good thing and a sign of trust its also why no one was complaining for this long.

The argument is that even though John did return the forums coins he is taking far too long on the other coins he promised to release in his last message and the winners from the raffle have a right to there prizes as John was just escrowing them until the hash was released.

Since we are entering into March and the confirmed list has been available for some time patience should be running a little thin and most users would have launched a scam accusation on any other user if this was not John we were discussing.

I guess I should say By Lord Did we send John a PM!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=191176.msg4463662#msg4463662

* I say 1 month not 3 because although the hashlist has been confirmed since January the PM should have been sent by scrat around a month ago
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=75366;sa=showPosts

Also worth noting John did say he would dig through the thread but never did so and the coins have not been moved
https://blockchain.info/address/1P85degUsQBSi3MDjQ7EwkG6mo9EA9pt6c
Whoever tipped it with l33t just now I saw that ^^

Original Contract
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223474.msg2349292#msg2349292

[johnmatrix]

at least john k already receive his deserved trust reputation until he re appears, what a shame

[deepceleron]

For the love of god, why can't he please go back to his old nick and steal someone's Bitcoins?? I've been waiting for "You got donged!" to be a meme for so long!

..took a year


   You got donged!

[Swordsoffreedom]

For the love of god, why can't he please go back to his old nick and steal someone's Bitcoins?? I've been waiting for "You got donged!" to be a meme for so long!

..took a year


   You got donged!

That's adorable ^_^ Sorry it just made me smile a bit

[Kouye]

Held BTC for the forum.

Active and very trustworthy global moderator of this forum.

Again, "Trust" is just a great tool for crooks, and I've been suggesting much better ways to handle it, so this can't be considered as trolling.
theymos did give 2 thumbs up to JK, and they are still there.

Anyone joining today might fall for it, because of this completely broken trust system.

[Unluckyduck]

Getting tired of waiting John... Gonna start a scam accusation soon. 

[icey]

Almost two months and nothing..

Surely you could spare 5 minutes to login within that time, unless something really bad has happened? Doesn't look good

[MoneyGod]

Getting tired of waiting John... Gonna start a scam accusation soon. 

If you have some coins in his account then you can surely start scam accusation because 2 months are too much

[kooke]

Maybe he's in jail

[Remember remember the 5th of November]

So even the most trustworthy person on the forum might have scammed...bad message to the people out there.