Constant accusations of scam, eMunie public IPO cancelled.

[panonym]

Losing too much time answering to scam accusation is indeed unproductive.
But expressing yourself to the community(-to-be) is important.
Your not only the dev, you're the project leader.

Maybe your private betatester understand where your project is heading.
But 'seem to me they are the only one.

Delegate work, but official centralized information will need to be officially confirmed - if not posted - by you.

1. development/ideas
2. communication/information (organized + quality)
3. investment
There is priorities, but you cannot skip any of the 3.
Number 2 quality is lacking big time.

Closed source, closed betatester? 'fine but only with video for the public of concert working example, or something.

'feel like I'm losing my time...
Hope my advice weren't vain. Delay.
Best of luck, but a successful project isn't only code.

[Honeypot]

OK let me share some info about how out of hand this is getting:

https://i.imgur.com/kyaWMfK.png

Also people purporting to blackmail me with this FUD (I'm guessing in an attempt to extract some of the investments from me)

https://i.imgur.com/hoBihIf.png

There is more, much more, and much worse.

This isn't your usual set of trolls, these are people with much more sinister agendas in hand.

You need to address this promptly. These people can potentially face criminal prosecution if you know who they are. Internet does not guarantee you are above such actions, and all digital footprints are traceable.

Don't cancel your public pre sale for this. Meet them head on. Find out who they are. Deal with them legitimately and promptly.

[Fuserleer]

I will be trying to track them down yes, and prosecute as far as the law will allow me to.

[CarbonAssassin]

This disadvantage of trying to do anything on the internet i suppose :/ Anyway can scream and shout from behind there computer and not give a crap because its not in the real world. Good luck with your project and i would certainly try to just ignore the nay sayers!

[opticalcarrier]

Wait.. were people already buying presell emu???  I signed up to be notifed and wanted to get in on it. iveeven got big plans on running a powerful hatcher. Geez man

[matt608]

OK let me share some info about how out of hand this is getting:

https://i.imgur.com/kyaWMfK.png

Also people purporting to blackmail me with this FUD (I'm guessing in an attempt to extract some of the investments from me)

https://i.imgur.com/hoBihIf.png

There is more, much more, and much worse.

This isn't your usual set of trolls, these are people with much more sinister agendas in hand.

I don't know why this would cause you to decide to cancel the IPO unless they did go ahead and blackmail you somehow.  If they had no way to blackmail you then presumably you would ignore them, if they did have a way to blackmail you then you might react the way you are doing, giving credence to their claims.  I was ready to invest in eMunie but now it looks like I'll just have to wait to see what happens.  I hope things go more smoothly from here.

[Fuserleer]

It wasn't the only factor in play, there were many that led to this decision.

Lets weigh up the options with regard to the blackmail

1)  Fight it constantly, never get to where you want to be
2)  Pay them off to "keep the peace" and dig a bigger hole
3)  Remove the ammo from the gun and deal with them in a legal manner

I chose 3, regardless of claims accuracy, as would any sensible individual.

[Apraksin]

Wait.. were people already buying presell emu???  I signed up to be notifed and wanted to get in on it. iveeven got big plans on running a powerful hatcher. Geez man

Relax. Things will cool down and you'll get your chance one way or the other. Point is all this time spent answering FUD is taking time away from finishing the client. The only ones who's been able to invest at this point are beta-testers and founders. That information has been in the open all along.

[Honeypot]

I will be trying to track them down yes, and prosecute as far as the law will allow me to.

Just a few other suggestions - some of the things they dug up DOES raise questions, such as your employment history or supposed 'scam'. Not everyone will go through the threads and read the rebuttals. I think it would be best if you hired someone or asked someone you trust to write up a rebuttal and complete debunking without really revealing anything you won't be responsible for legally.

This will allow you to win over the questionable things in your record (assuming you have any) while giving you plenty of time to work as a dev, not as a public relations manager.

Also, if they are trying to blackmail you, ffs don't EVER let them receive a thing - negotiating with blackmailers is failure step 1 in the first place.

I think it would be wise to allow someone you trust to clear the air without revealing anything you don't have to. Right now, there are some things with what they dug up that, whether legitimate or not, does raise serious questions about you as a person and your activities - unless they know you personally. Don't take it personally - from where other people are standing, you can start to look suspicious even if you are not given how much they have dug up about you. That's the current picture, and one way or another you will have to provide something that assures investors you are not a scammer.

I am sure you can manage this. I hope for the best of e munie, and possible reinstatement of pre-sale.

[MaGNeT]

I only see 15-30 post supporters, must be sockpuppets / clones.

We have seen enough scams over here, remember JohnCar / Iamatrix? / PhenixCoin / PhenixEx? Even I fell for it... My scam-radar was somehow disabled by greed...

[panonym]

Proof of burn is pretty much the only way to disable my scam-radar now

[fragout]

I only see 15-30 post supporters, must be sockpuppets / clones.

We have seen enough scams over here, remember JohnCar / Iamatrix? / PhenixCoin / PhenixEx? Even I fell for it... My scam-radar was somehow disabled by greed...

Only 15-30 post supporters. MUST be sockpuppets. Are you for real
pre-sale is cancelled (you cannot lose money)
beta investors can get their btc back if they wish
MUST be a scam

[Nullu]

It's quite ironic that the recent scam accusations, and the rigorous defending of eMunie by its dev has actually made the IPO seem a lot more legitimate.

You didn't need you to cancel the IPO. All you needed to do was defend it with evidence and show that, contrary to what people think, it is a legitimate IPO.

In the long run I think cancelling the public IPO will do more harm than good, but I agree that the scam accusations are also harmful. In that case, I would perhaps suggest just creating a thread with a detailed outline of what eMunie has done, and is doing so far. Present the evidence, then lock the thread. Any time someone cries scam, you can point them in the direction of said thread and allow them to make an informed decision.

I wouldn't take it personally. If you're looking for someone to blame for this, then blame the IPO scammers. This sea of paranoia was created by them. It's not an attack on eMunue. It's an attack on all IPOs.

Yes, you shouldn't need to spend every other minute defending it, however it you do it once, in a single place, then it's just a matter of copy/pasting a URL. Nobody would expect you to respond to every single accusations, especially if they're all the same accusation. The problem here is that people are uninformed, and with more visibility, so people can be informed, the scam accusations should decrease.

[etlase3]

It wasn't the only factor in play, there were many that led to this decision.

Lets weigh up the options with regard to the blackmail

1)  Fight it constantly, never get to where you want to be
2)  Pay them off to "keep the peace" and dig a bigger hole
3)  Remove the ammo from the gun and deal with them in a legal manner

I chose 3, regardless of claims accuracy, as would any sensible individual.

Or you could, god forbid, ignore some trolls on the internet...

[panonym]

& make it clear somewhere-easy-to-find the % already reserved for dev and betatester...

Your project of latter on adding or reducing coin to stabilize the price also seem difficult(impossible?) to achieve without central control.
If EMU is centralized, I out + free to stop thinking about getting in.

[Come-from-Beyond]

Can we have an independent audit of the code (with NDA of coz)? If everything is legit then u could just ignore the trolls and stick to the plan. Everyone would be happy (except the trolls but who cares)...

[maxidoge]

OK let me share some info about how out of hand this is getting:

https://i.imgur.com/kyaWMfK.png

Also people purporting to blackmail me with this FUD (I'm guessing in an attempt to extract some of the investments from me)

https://i.imgur.com/hoBihIf.png

There is more, much more, and much worse.

This isn't your usual set of trolls, these are people with much more sinister agendas in hand.

So?
What kind of info they have to blackmail you?
What kind of info can destroy emunie?

Just ignore them.

Or you want to tell us THERE IS an info they can use to blackmail you and to destroy emunie?
So if it is true and they know "something" - how cancelled presale can stop them from doing it?
Or you want to cancel emunie?  

What the hell. if i am honest man i don't give any fuck to haters, their blackmails etc.
Its impossible to blackmail honest man or destroy REAL and not scam currency.

People will buy it on presale just because they waited this for so long time and they believe in it.
New people will buy it just because it wasn't "1 day currency" as other scam currencys, it was in developing for so long.
And wasn't exploded after "nxt" boom.

Your fear about blackmail and broken hope of your followers that were waiting this presale will damage emunie much harder than all haters on the world.

[Fuserleer]

Log the IP of that guy Maet/Cossakman on your forum and report him to the authorities for extortion. He pm'd me asking if I wanted to help blackmail you because he thinks eMunie is a scam.

http://coinmotors.com/maet.png

You have a BHW tab in your browser, he'll label you a scammer and attempt to blackmail you next.

[KingGoon]

man up man  I havent seen a coin on this forum that hasnt been called a scam 

[jacquette]

Here I am again, 3 days later defending myself against ridiculous scammer accusations backed by fairy dust facts.  When all I really want to do is develop and launch a damn crypto-currency and do it RIGHT.

I'm not even going to spend the time and effort responding AGAIN to the same accusations that I cleared up 3 days previous.

I decided to be public and open about my identity, I knew that would attract some attention and that is fine.  We've all tried things in the past that didn't work out as planned, either because lady luck stepped in and decided not to give out luck charms that day, or some 3rd party screwed it up, and thus those things that we attempted to do failed.  Anyone that claims they have nothing in their past which went wrong and caused some upset for themselves and perhaps others is an outright liar.

What matters is that those people tried, it is better to try and fail, than not try at all.  It is easy to point the finger, making wild accusations, and twisting the facts of any event to meet a destructive agenda because of jealousy, greed or simple competitor fear.

I want to do eMunie right, but it seems that individuals within this "community" (and I use the term loosely) are hell bent on stirring up any possible crumb of information, putting some crazy spin on it so that it meets the terms of a possible accusation.  While I'm dealing with these trolls, that distracts me from the real work of developing, promoting and perfecting eMunie and being able to launch it.

I refuse to be distracted by this crap any longer, I refuse to let these people jeopardize mine and others hard work on this, I refuse to let these people jeopardize my own investment and others that have opted to invest in this venture so far.

The only way I see possible to put the brakes on all the FUD that these individuals continue to sprout like an endless fountain is to cancel the public IPO and no longer accept any further investment from individuals I do not know and 100% trust.

eMunie will now be funded by other means, most likely via raising further personal investment of my own.  I would rather take that road than have to deal with this constant BS.

To all of you that were interested in investing, I apologize for this move, I hope you appreciate the reasons behind why, and that I can not afford any further distraction delaying the launch of the system & client. 

To anyone that HAS already invested, if you are having doubts after all the recent FUD and wild accusations, and would like your investment back, please contact me directly on dan@emunie.com.

Mark my words, eMunie will launch, eMunie will be a success, and I will NOT quit until it is.

You have to understand that ALL companies around the world are being criticizes everyday, every second... company's like Wal-Mart, Lowe's, Verizon Wireless, Comcast Cable, Pizza Hut, Amazon.com, Wells Fargo Bank, CNN News, Facebook, Donald Trump, US Congress, Foot Locker, so on so on.. i know eMunie is not a huge company or anything but company's do respond to criticism but not in this type of manner. If you truly believe about the future of eMunie then you have to look pass the negativity and keep moving forward. your wasting precious time trying to convince the naysayers. look at it as a test. all business big and small go though this daily. the good outweighs the bad. Don't ever make post like this again. EVER..  

P.S. unCanelled Public IPO. your letting the haters win..