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February 08, 2014, 11:02:39 PM
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Yeah, because nobody uses pot in the countries where it is illegal !


Exactly, that's why I made the comparison. Government cracked down on pot, now hardly anyone smokes it, and its price went way down. In the 1960s, it cost like $500 for an eighth. Now, it's like $50 for an eighth. In the same way, bitcoin will go from $500 to $5 because of government intervention, and everyone will stop using it except for computer geeks in their parents' basement - just like in 2009. 

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yep. They cracked down on pot in the 1930's. It only took 50 years for the price to drop. That gives me a few decades to sell my coins..

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February 08, 2014, 11:02:54 PM
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Yeah, because nobody uses pot in the countries where it is illegal !


Exactly, that's why I made the comparison. Government cracked down on pot, now hardly anyone smokes it, and its price went way down. In the 1960s, it cost like $500 for an eighth. Now, it's like $50 for an eighth. In the same way, bitcoin will go from $500 to $5 because of government intervention, and everyone will stop using it except for computer geeks in their parents' basement - just like in 2009. 

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February 08, 2014, 11:19:48 PM
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Yeah, because nobody uses pot in the countries where it is illegal !


Exactly, that's why I made the comparison. Government cracked down on pot, now hardly anyone smokes it, and its price went way down. In the 1960s, it cost like $500 for an eighth. Now, it's like $50 for an eighth. In the same way, bitcoin will go from $500 to $5 because of government intervention, and everyone will stop using it except for computer geeks in their parents' basement - just like in 2009.  

Confirmed!

Yes, Confirmed

I''m sorry, are there only 21 million possible marijuana plants? Damn, it would be $10,000 an ounce if that was the case.
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February 09, 2014, 06:18:38 AM
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Please use this thread to only post confirmed news from confirmed sources to help everyone understand what is obvious - bitcoin is in a downtrend to oblivion.  

My latest find comes, of course, from official sources in China and details how the Chinese government is planning a massive 99% attack on the blockchain.  I'll put the main points below, but anyone can check the facts from the source:

1.  Chinese offials delcare bitcoin a global financial virus
2.  Officials from other nations are in agreement with china China, including the US
3.  The Chinese government has millions of petahashes ready to deploy on the blockchain to destroy the protocol
4.  In addition to attacking the blockchian, China will sell all their mined bitcoins on MtGox

It's obvious bitcoin has gone as far as it can go, but any other thoughts about this devastating news?

F OFF

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February 09, 2014, 06:55:51 AM
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New FUD: where is proudhon our bad-news king?Huh  Huh Huh
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February 09, 2014, 07:00:53 AM
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Please use this thread to only post confirmed news from confirmed sources to help everyone understand what is obvious - bitcoin is in a downtrend to oblivion

My latest find comes, of course, from official sources in China and details how the Chinese government is planning a massive 99% attack on the blockchain.  I'll put the main points below, but anyone can check the facts from the source:

1.  Chinese offials delcare bitcoin a global financial virus
2.  Officials from other nations are in agreement with china China, including the US
3.  The Chinese government has millions of petahashes ready to deploy on the blockchain to destroy the protocol
4.  In addition to attacking the blockchian, China will sell all their mined bitcoins on MtGox

It's obvious bitcoin has gone as far as it can go, but any other thoughts about this devastating news?

F OFF

Sir, if you still don't agree with the fact that SHOTRing is clearly the only possibility left to us,
I would kindly inform you that maybe there is another thread that could be a better place for your precious and argumentative opinions:

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February 09, 2014, 02:43:36 PM
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Countdown is begun,

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February 09, 2014, 03:07:35 PM
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in china, it seems is CONFIRMED people using bitcoin will be facing death sentence as well.

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February 09, 2014, 03:41:54 PM
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New FUD: where is proudhon our bad-news king?Huh  Huh Huh

He is busy shorting bitcoin with max leverage.  Cheesy


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February 09, 2014, 04:00:26 PM
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Countdown is begun,

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February 09, 2014, 05:35:52 PM
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High volume LocalBitcoins sellers are being arrested for money laundering:
http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/02/07/warning-localbitcoins-com-high-volume-dealers-are-being-arrested-for-violating-state-msb-laws/

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February 09, 2014, 06:07:02 PM
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this is NOT good news at ALL. quiet freaky actually, i mean they're going after individuals now ? So technically ANYONE who sold Bitcoins can be labelled as a criminal in the future....

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February 09, 2014, 06:14:43 PM
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In the end we will get all terrorists, get used to it.

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February 09, 2014, 09:22:41 PM
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So technically ANYONE who sold Bitcoins can be labelled as a criminal in the future....

if they sold for cash without reporting it, and if the amount of cash is over legislated limits, and if I'm not wrong






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February 09, 2014, 09:28:29 PM
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No, they were directly involved in illegal activities. They were framed by the authorities.
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February 10, 2014, 02:00:52 AM
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No, they were directly involved in illegal activities. They were framed by the authorities.

The only thing illegal was buying/selling something (Bitcoins in this case) for a large amount of cash. This is illegal in many places. However in my country what the cops did (honey pot) is also illegal.
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February 10, 2014, 02:27:07 AM
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As you see MtGox restored withdrawals, but, we know that their site has been seized by FBI and now it's just ongoing sting operation.
Everybody withdrawing from gox will face money laundering charges.

I confirm it.

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February 10, 2014, 02:28:24 AM
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As you see MtGox restored withdrawals, but, we know that their site has been seized by FBI and now it's just ongoing sting operation.
Everybody withdrawing from gox will face money laundering charges.

I confirm it.



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February 10, 2014, 12:45:01 PM
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LOL,
The price on BTC-e today 102 USD

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February 10, 2014, 03:37:08 PM
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Major Bug Found In Bitcoin Network, Extremely Vulnerable, Impossible To Fix

Today, devastating news about the vulnerability and unreliability of the Bitcoin currency was made public by the largest and oldest Bitcoin exchange, MtGox.

A major bug has been found in the Bitcoin network by the most popular and largest Bitcoin exchange, MtGox.
The popular Bitcoin exchange has lost all trust in the Bitcoin currency and has halted all bitcoin or cash transactions via its exchange.
The founders of MtGox are extremely concerned about a major bug they have found in the Bitcoin programming. The bug is not complicated, and any amateur hacker could exploit it and steal billions of dollars worth of Bitcoins. The bug might not be complicated, but there is no possibility to fix the bug. This means that the Bitcoin network will always have at least one major vulnerability.

To proof this statement, read the official statement published on MtGox by the CEO of the most popular, oldest and largest Bitcoin exchange:

Dear MtGox Customers and Bitcoiners,

As you are aware, the MtGox team has been working hard to address an issue with the way that bitcoin withdrawals are processed. By "bitcoin withdrawal" we are referring to transactions from a MtGox bitcoin wallet to an external bitcoin address. Bitcoin transactions to any MtGox bitcoin address, and currency withdrawals (Yen, Euro, etc) are not affected by this issue.

The problem we have identified is not limited to MtGox, and affects all transactions where Bitcoins are being sent to a third party. We believe that the changes required for addressing this issue will be positive over the long term for the whole community. As a result we took the necessary action of suspending bitcoin withdrawals until this technical issue has been resolved.


Addressing Transaction Malleability
MtGox has detected unusual activity on its Bitcoin wallets and performed investigations during the past weeks. This confirmed the presence of transactions which need to be examined more closely.


Non-technical Explanation:
A bug in the bitcoin software makes it possible for someone to use the Bitcoin network to alter transaction details to make it seem like a sending of bitcoins to a bitcoin wallet did not occur when in fact it did occur. Since the transaction appears as if it has not proceeded correctly, the bitcoins may be resent. MtGox is working with the Bitcoin core development team and others to mitigate this issue.


Technical Explanation:
Bitcoin transactions are subject to a design issue that has been largely ignored, while known to at least a part of the Bitcoin core developers and mentioned on the BitcoinTalk forums. This defect, known as "transaction malleability" makes it possible for a third party to alter the hash of any freshly issued transaction without invalidating the signature, hence resulting in a similar transaction under a different hash. Of course only one of the two transactions can be validated. However, if the party who altered the transaction is fast enough, for example with a direct connection to different mining pools, or has even a small amount of mining power, it can easily cause the transaction hash alteration to be committed to the blockchain.

The bitcoin api "sendtoaddress" broadly used to send bitcoins to a given bitcoin address will return a transaction hash as a way to track the transaction's insertion in the blockchain.
Most wallet and exchange services will keep a record of this said hash in order to be able to respond to users should they inquire about their transaction. It is likely that these services will assume the transaction was not sent if it doesn't appear in the blockchain with the original hash and have currently no means to recognize the alternative transactions as theirs in an efficient way.

This means that an individual could request bitcoins from an exchange or wallet service, alter the resulting transaction's hash before inclusion in the blockchain, then contact the issuing service while claiming the transaction did not proceed. If the alteration fails, the user can simply send the bitcoins back and try again until successful.

We believe this can be addressed by using a different hash for transaction tracking purposes. While the network will continue to use the current hash for the purpose of inclusion in each block's Merkle Tree, the new hash's purpose will be to track a given transaction and can be computed and indexed by hashing the exact signed string via SHA256 (in the same way transactions are currently hashed).

This new transaction hash will allow signing parties to keep track of any transaction they have signed and can easily be computed, even for past transactions.

We have discussed this solution with the Bitcoin core developers and will allow Bitcoin withdrawals again once it has been approved and standardized.

In the meantime, exchanges and wallet services - and any service sending coins directly to third parties - should be extremely careful with anyone claiming their transaction did not go through.

Note that this will also affect any other crypto-currency using the same transaction scheme as Bitcoin.


Conclusion
To put things in perspective, it's important to remember that Bitcoin is a very new technology and still very much in its early stages. What MtGox and the Bitcoin community have experienced in the past year has been an incredible and exciting challenge, and there is still much to do to further improve.

MtGox will resume bitcoin withdrawals to outside wallets once the issue outlined above has been properly addressed in a manner that will best serve our customers.

More information on the status of this issue will be released as soon as possible.

We thank you for taking the time to read this, and especially for your patience.

Best Regards,
MtGox Team

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Link to source: https://www.mtgox.com/press_release_20140210.html
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