[ANNOUNCE] New Solidcoin Client Fully Open-Source!

[wolftaur]

There is no reason not to keep going with solidcoin as an open source project. The bugs have been fixed. Quit taking your hate about a developer too far. Hes arrogant and an asshole, but the software is now fine to use and many people wish to continue it. He is not the head of the project anymore with this open source release. Mining pools should open back up and other exchanges that closed should open up again.

CoinHunter made a public claim that he's come up with a "defense" to keep "his" block chain from being affected by a majority of users being on the open source client. He also bragged about his plans to deliberately alter his client to "break" the open source one.

I suspect it's going to take a while for the dust to settle and I doubt Ruxum or bitparking is going to go with an open-source fork until such time as any attempt CoinHunter has made to break the fork has been proven to be a failure.

[Isepick]

Just let it die already. The SolidCoin brand is way too tainted now. And there is no guarantee that Mr. "Imma copyright everything" isn't going to start doing shit like trademarking "SolidCoin", etc etc which will screw people over on the open source side. Let it die. If you insist on needing an altcoin, then make a new one, with a new chain and a new name. This one is so horribly corrupted that none of the larger exchanges will ever touch it. Nor would any merchant that spent 30 seconds on google. Way too much confusion with, "No we are the *other* SolidCoin, not the bad one!"

[BitcoinPorn]

Best part about most of what you guys seem to be making out as his 'crazy talk', will be 'holy fuck he was a genius talk' after he succeeds.

This post made with ego stroking purposes only as a way to attempt to deflect all the hate. I do not fully believe what I typed

[aq]

Best part about most of what you guys seem to be making out as his 'crazy talk', will be 'holy fuck he was a genius talk' after he succeeds.

This post made with ego stroking purposes only as a way to attempt to deflect all the hate. I do not fully believe what I typed

Well, if coinhunter succeeds someday we are all domed, because coinhunter has the intelligence of Pinky and the attitude of Brain.

[BitcoinPorn]

because coinhunter has the intelligence of Pinky and the attitude of Brain.

I am so using this today on someone, and I'll sadly feel clever when I do it.


Edit, from Eskimo Bob

[The Electric Monk]

Isn't it funny how "poor" SolidCoin is yet we have people writing open source clients for it, wanting to try to take control of it. If it was worthless they wouldn't want to, something to consider for the sane minds reading this thread.

You:
-Had some good ideas
-Created a currency who's success depends on more than 50% of users supporting it
-Seemingly pissed off more than 50% in all different ways

What did you think was going to happen?

I don't see you as a victim to trolls anymore, you have some control over this.  If you issued a sincere apology to the BTC community, the exchanges and guild operators, take down the hateful btc bullshit from your site, make your project truly open source again (according to standards), stop telling people to f*ck off if they don't like it and people will have less reason to create another SC chain.

[The Electric Monk]

Who are you kidding? They are a bunch of ass hats ... I once believed somewhat their way toward what was going on with IxCoin, then the fucktards go and make I0Coin, now they are doing the same shit here....  the real scammers are these douchebags, maybe they felt they missed the window or they are jealous, whatever, your all a bunch of lame fucks and cryptocurrency will suffer as a whole because of this community, if this is the public face of bitcoin it won't be long for the world.

 Can you explain to me how the open source chain is a scam?  It sounds like mined SCs are still good in it.

[FractalUniverse]

.. and cryptocurrency will suffer as a whole because of this community, if this is the public face of bitcoin it won't be long for the world.

yup

[The Electric Monk]

Not the way the rhetoric is going with these tards, and they don't care about an alternate coin, they are f'ing lying in the first place that Coinhunter is their only issue, they were bitching from the get-go, smoothie wishes he made more that 32 BTC off his early coins, wolftaur is just retaurded, Artforz is a just a dumbass who hurt a lot of people yet he is championed by the douche bags around here as some kind of hero.

It's a scam in the basis of this work is a lie, it isn't even about Coinhunter, just now that these fucks have villianized him this is their claim but go back and read the history of the posts, then go back and look at the history of the IxCoin posts ... you see a STARTLING resemblance in both.  These dumbasses have to be in control of the whole sha-bang.

I don't disagree some things Coinhunter said shouldn't have been said... the whole solid coin here when bitcoin fails article, I didn't publicize it, at that time I could see both in existence, but my experiences with these retarded people out here is changing my mind.  A good community would police it's own, and there have been and still are people in the true solid coin community speaking out against the license changes, and the article on solidcoin.info .... bitcoin on the other hand, that community is  just a bunch of fucks in the middle of a massive circle jerk.

I don't think you can group everyone here together like that, there's trolls on every board.  People seemed generally more interested in SC before the immature propaganda site went up.  None of those trolls went to the lengths of making an anti SC website, that I know of.  He's villainized himself.

If he'd ignored the trolls and treated everyone else with respect it would be doing much better.  The mining guild I was in and 2 of the three exchanges I used shut down.  I read the way CoinHunter chatted with Gavin, who hasn't done anything to him.  CH didn't invent Bitcoin, but he used the source then shit on everyone who worked on it.  Are you seriously going to argue that we should leave that guy in charge?  He doesn't know how to respect others, he's a PR nightmare for both BTC and SC, and he can't be reasoned with.

[The Electric Monk]

If you think he can be reasoned with, go back to the SC boards and try to make SC better instead of coming here and protesting the open source version.

[smoothie]

Not the way the rhetoric is going with these tards, and they don't care about an alternate coin, they are f'ing lying in the first place that Coinhunter is their only issue, they were bitching from the get-go, smoothie wishes he made more that 32 BTC off his early coins, wolftaur is just retaurded, Artforz is a just a dumbass who hurt a lot of people yet he is championed by the douche bags around here as some kind of hero.

It's a scam in the basis of this work is a lie, it isn't even about Coinhunter, just now that these fucks have villianized him this is their claim but go back and read the history of the posts, then go back and look at the history of the IxCoin posts ... you see a STARTLING resemblance in both.  These dumbasses have to be in control of the whole sha-bang.

I don't disagree some things Coinhunter said shouldn't have been said... the whole solid coin here when bitcoin fails article, I didn't publicize it, at that time I could see both in existence, but my experiences with these retarded people out here is changing my mind.  A good community would police it's own, and there have been and still are people in the true solid coin community speaking out against the license changes, and the article on solidcoin.info .... bitcoin on the other hand, that community is  just a bunch of fucks in the middle of a massive circle jerk.

I did make more than 32 BTC. I made 205. 

[ArtForz]

*ponders writing a response*

*checks viperjbms post history*

*wanders off*

[aq]

And before I am accused of vehemently supporting SLC because of loosing money, jokes on you because I have not spent a dime of my money on either coin system, I just want to promote the technology.  And since both coin systems are loosing money hand over foot now it doesn't matter much which you are in.

So basically you say, you are just one of coinhunters disciples?

[dishwara]

Politics bullshits everyone & everything & brings THE END.

[johnj]

Trolls show up everywhere, free speech should be allowed (unless RS kicks you out of IRC), ideas should flow (unless you take a previous open project, screw up the code and then close it again) - Solidcoins public face has become 70% troll and they have become intent on crushing their own coin.

FTFY.

[TwistedPair]

There is no reason not to keep going with solidcoin as an open source project. The bugs have been fixed. Quit taking your hate about a developer too far. Hes arrogant and an asshole, but the software is now fine to use and many people wish to continue it. He is not the head of the project anymore with this open source release. Mining pools should open back up and other exchanges that closed should open up again.

How are you so sure Solidcoin is "now fine"? The one and only developer is adding other people's untested commits to the original Bitcoin client and adding his own sauce.

For example, how long was the testing period between when 1.04 was implemented and released?

Advertising Solidcoin as a safer alternative to Bitcoin is a specious.

so alternate forks should be promoted to a certain degree where they are providing solutions and further data to analyse to determine the best values for these, having only a single chain is like having all our eggs in one basket.

And why should Gavin actively promote *coins? He probably has a bunch of btcs so he's incentive is to promote Bitcoin, not other chains.

Solidcoin is set up in a manner to improve general adoption by trying out parameters that could help enable businesses to be more willing to use cryptocurrency and help end users have a better and safer experience,

By adding other people's untested patches and randomly adding their own stuff with no peer review? That isn't aligned with common business practices. Parroting Coinhunter's FUD doesn't make it true.

An interface with a nice icon and a bigger font for the wallet total does not make for more adoption long term. A safer, more scalable client does. And that's what Gavin is focusing on. It doesn't matter how pretty your safe is, if it can be broken into with a butter knife.

Face it, Solidcoin was a interesting attempt but hubris and lack of testing killed it. You're better of with i0coin/ixcoin as they have less changes to the original Bitcoin client.

[grndzero]

Are there any list of actual features that differentiate solidcoin from Bitcoin?
Any that actually have merit?

If it was all fluff and hype then let it die.

[johnj]

Are there any list of actual features that differentiate solidcoin from Bitcoin?

It gets mandatory updates every other day.

[The Electric Monk]

I think we should rename SolidCoin if we go through with this.  There's going to be all kinds of confusion, and CoinHunter is right that people will come across his site first on Google for now.  

I vote for Space Credits.  I've posted this before, but I think it might be good for publicity.  'Space Credits' sound familiar to most people, especially geeks who'll be earlier adopters.  The other reason is media attention helps the popularity of coins:  Space credits could be an ideal outside currency to the new Starwars mmo.  From what I've read it's a WOW killer, and these coins are ideal for trading in games.  My buddies and I already use small amounts in minecraft.

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll128/chucknorrisfan/spacecredits.png

[sd]

I think we should rename SolidCoin if we go through with this.  There's going to be all kinds of confusion, and CoinHunter is right that people will come across his site first on Google for now.

I agree. A new name is needed. Space Credits does sound cool.

We also need to make sure open source clients don't accept any of coinhunters non-mined cheat blocks or anything else weird he tries to abuse the blockchain with.