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I've done my own computations for my local store, and while the 280X's will be denser and have less rigs for the hash rate, I'll be going with 270X rigs. They cost less for me to buy and run; electricity in my country is expensive at 0.35 / kwh.
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January 20, 2014, 05:19:28 PM |
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Glad to see people are still paying a premium for GPUs...Heh.
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January 21, 2014, 04:50:56 PM |
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I've done my own computations for my local store, and while the 280X's will be denser and have less rigs for the hash rate, I'll be going with 270X rigs. They cost less for me to buy and run; electricity in my country is expensive at 0.35 / kwh.
0.35 kwh?? that's insane. I pay a bit less than 0.01 kwh
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Another one smells quick money, so many risks involved would hope you are aware of that. We can wake up tomorrow and markets fall out.
I'm only risking what I'm willing to lose ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) That's the correct answer! Good luck with your mining then!
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January 21, 2014, 05:25:34 PM |
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The best price k/hash wise is the 280x.
Friendly advice though, you will either need a very large room to host all the machines or a good air conditioner running 24/7. Not to mention you will need to draw a lot of electricity from the wall, you will need to calculate how many machines each outlet from the electrical installation can handle and to add new ones. Its not that hard though...
This. 280x all the way. My number crunching from our real-world rigs and also from other people's data says that the 280x are both the best Khs/USD, and also the best Khs/Watt (when undervolted). This includes the cost of added MB/CPU/RAM/PSUs for buying more rigs. $25k could buy you somewhere around 10x $2500 rigs. $200 for MB/CPU/RAM $200 for 2x 750W PSUs $100 for 5 USB risers $2000 for 5 280x When undervolted, you're looking at ~3.5MH/s @ ~1300W. This puts you at 35Mh/s. I'd suggest running the PSUs off a 240V, which would save a tad on power. Adding in the power requirements for cooling, and you're looking at either 3x 30A or 2x 50A 220 circuits. This is assuming you already have the infrastructure in place. If your power distribution, cooling requirements, and physical housing are included in that budget, you're looking at closer to 8 rigs. Don't go for an ASIC. I doubt we'll get ASICs before 2015. We barely have any FPGAs in the hands of customers, and all the companies that are claiming ASICs are sketchy as all hell. Hi crazyates or anyone willing to help. Ive been researching a bit myself on the forums but Im new to all the mining and hardware required. It's been giving me a headache and I was wondering if you would be able to recommend me specific parts for a $2.5k-$3k build. I guess from what I read the 280x is the best? Maybe the 280x toxic from sapphire? I know I will continue to build after the initial spend of $2.5k to $3k so if I'm looking to add more cards later what would be the best setup? I've heard people with 6 or 8 gpus in one set up. What specific brand and model for a MB that can handle multiple gpus? Also what brand/model is favorable and popular for mb,cpu, ram, psu?
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January 21, 2014, 06:38:17 PM |
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The best price k/hash wise is the 280x.
Friendly advice though, you will either need a very large room to host all the machines or a good air conditioner running 24/7. Not to mention you will need to draw a lot of electricity from the wall, you will need to calculate how many machines each outlet from the electrical installation can handle and to add new ones. Its not that hard though...
This. 280x all the way. My number crunching from our real-world rigs and also from other people's data says that the 280x are both the best Khs/USD, and also the best Khs/Watt (when undervolted). This includes the cost of added MB/CPU/RAM/PSUs for buying more rigs. $25k could buy you somewhere around 10x $2500 rigs. $200 for MB/CPU/RAM $200 for 2x 750W PSUs $100 for 5 USB risers $2000 for 5 280x When undervolted, you're looking at ~3.5MH/s @ ~1300W. This puts you at 35Mh/s. I'd suggest running the PSUs off a 240V, which would save a tad on power. Adding in the power requirements for cooling, and you're looking at either 3x 30A or 2x 50A 220 circuits. This is assuming you already have the infrastructure in place. If your power distribution, cooling requirements, and physical housing are included in that budget, you're looking at closer to 8 rigs. Don't go for an ASIC. I doubt we'll get ASICs before 2015. We barely have any FPGAs in the hands of customers, and all the companies that are claiming ASICs are sketchy as all hell. Hi crazyates or anyone willing to help. Ive been researching a bit myself on the forums but Im new to all the mining and hardware required. It's been giving me a headache and I was wondering if you would be able to recommend me specific parts for a $2.5k-$3k build. I guess from what I read the 280x is the best? Maybe the 280x toxic from sapphire? I know I will continue to build after the initial spend of $2.5k to $3k so if I'm looking to add more cards later what would be the best setup? I've heard people with 6 or 8 gpus in one set up. What specific brand and model for a MB that can handle multiple gpus? Also what brand/model is favorable and popular for mb,cpu, ram, psu? Check the asrock h81 btc pro. It has 6 pcie slots and it is quite cheap. But that is not available in my country. I'm currently using asus f1a75-v evo and asus m5a99x evo; both have 5 pcie slots, which you can populate 3 without risers, but the cards are really near to each other.
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January 21, 2014, 07:06:15 PM |
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I've done my own computations for my local store, and while the 280X's will be denser and have less rigs for the hash rate, I'll be going with 270X rigs. They cost less for me to buy and run; electricity in my country is expensive at 0.35 / kwh.
jeeze man in what country is it 0.35 kwh? if i were you i would have it hosted somewhere else lol
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January 21, 2014, 07:26:31 PM |
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I've done my own computations for my local store, and while the 280X's will be denser and have less rigs for the hash rate, I'll be going with 270X rigs. They cost less for me to buy and run; electricity in my country is expensive at 0.35 / kwh.
jeeze man in what country is it 0.35 kwh? if i were you i would have it hosted somewhere else lol Europe has some pretty crazy electric rates, so does California once you get into the higher tiers. At .35/kwh, it does make sense to look at some sort of hosting solution.
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January 21, 2014, 07:30:07 PM |
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I've done my own computations for my local store, and while the 280X's will be denser and have less rigs for the hash rate, I'll be going with 270X rigs. They cost less for me to buy and run; electricity in my country is expensive at 0.35 / kwh.
jeeze man in what country is it 0.35 kwh? if i were you i would have it hosted somewhere else lol Europe has some pretty crazy electric rates, so does California once you get into the higher tiers. At .35/kwh, it does make sense to look at some sort of hosting solution. Try running Rigs in Australia, electricity here is ridiculously expensive! AND you have to have aircon running when its often over 30 degrees outside ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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January 21, 2014, 07:31:29 PM |
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I've done my own computations for my local store, and while the 280X's will be denser and have less rigs for the hash rate, I'll be going with 270X rigs. They cost less for me to buy and run; electricity in my country is expensive at 0.35 / kwh.
jeeze man in what country is it 0.35 kwh? if i were you i would have it hosted somewhere else lol Europe has some pretty crazy electric rates, so does California once you get into the higher tiers. At .35/kwh, it does make sense to look at some sort of hosting solution. Try running Rigs in Australia, electricity here is ridiculously expensive! No thanks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I moved to where I am specifically for the rates I get. .02kwh!
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January 21, 2014, 09:38:57 PM |
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I've done my own computations for my local store, and while the 280X's will be denser and have less rigs for the hash rate, I'll be going with 270X rigs. They cost less for me to buy and run; electricity in my country is expensive at 0.35 / kwh.
0.35 kwh?? that's insane. I pay a bit less than 0.01 kwh lol, what currency is that, I pay 1.23 kwh on prepaid electricity....
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January 21, 2014, 09:58:17 PM |
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I've done my own computations for my local store, and while the 280X's will be denser and have less rigs for the hash rate, I'll be going with 270X rigs. They cost less for me to buy and run; electricity in my country is expensive at 0.35 / kwh.
jeeze man in what country is it 0.35 kwh? if i were you i would have it hosted somewhere else lol Europe has some pretty crazy electric rates, so does California once you get into the higher tiers. At .35/kwh, it does make sense to look at some sort of hosting solution. Try running Rigs in Australia, electricity here is ridiculously expensive! No thanks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I moved to where I am specifically for the rates I get. .02kwh! where?
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January 22, 2014, 02:59:29 AM |
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I'm in the Philippines. I can get as low as 0.29 USD per KWH on industrial rates. Hosting in another location looks good, but shipping and import/export/etc... and if something goes wrong, I'm not there.
Now, if I were doing $25,000 USD worth of rigs, then I'd send it off to Kuwait or something.
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January 22, 2014, 07:01:14 AM |
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I'm in the Philippines. I can get as low as 0.29 USD per KWH on industrial rates. Hosting in another location looks good, but shipping and import/export/etc... and if something goes wrong, I'm not there.
Now, if I were doing $25,000 USD worth of rigs, then I'd send it off to Kuwait or something.
Bahrain is cheap electricity too, and high-rise apartments can be bought for $45,000/56 BTC
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January 22, 2014, 11:05:55 AM |
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The best price k/hash wise is the 280x.
Friendly advice though, you will either need a very large room to host all the machines or a good air conditioner running 24/7. Not to mention you will need to draw a lot of electricity from the wall, you will need to calculate how many machines each outlet from the electrical installation can handle and to add new ones. Its not that hard though...
This. 280x all the way. My number crunching from our real-world rigs and also from other people's data says that the 280x are both the best Khs/USD, and also the best Khs/Watt (when undervolted). This includes the cost of added MB/CPU/RAM/PSUs for buying more rigs. $25k could buy you somewhere around 10x $2500 rigs. $200 for MB/CPU/RAM $200 for 2x 750W PSUs $100 for 5 USB risers $2000 for 5 280x When undervolted, you're looking at ~3.5MH/s @ ~1300W. This puts you at 35Mh/s. I'd suggest running the PSUs off a 240V, which would save a tad on power. Adding in the power requirements for cooling, and you're looking at either 3x 30A or 2x 50A 220 circuits. This is assuming you already have the infrastructure in place. If your power distribution, cooling requirements, and physical housing are included in that budget, you're looking at closer to 8 rigs. Don't go for an ASIC. I doubt we'll get ASICs before 2015. We barely have any FPGAs in the hands of customers, and all the companies that are claiming ASICs are sketchy as all hell. Hi crazyates or anyone willing to help. Ive been researching a bit myself on the forums but Im new to all the mining and hardware required. It's been giving me a headache and I was wondering if you would be able to recommend me specific parts for a $2.5k-$3k build. I guess from what I read the 280x is the best? Maybe the 280x toxic from sapphire? I know I will continue to build after the initial spend of $2.5k to $3k so if I'm looking to add more cards later what would be the best setup? I've heard people with 6 or 8 gpus in one set up. What specific brand and model for a MB that can handle multiple gpus? Also what brand/model is favorable and popular for mb,cpu, ram, psu? I wish there was a newegg in Aust, for 3k I would get this http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1532092Mining Kit UKO-K140K: AMD Sempron 2.8GHz Single Core, 6 X XFX Radeon HD 7970 3GB, MSI 970A-G43 Motherboard, Kingston 4GB RAM, 2 X Rosewill 1000W Modular Power Supply
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I mine therefor I am ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) - WIN : WcLLYcZfHQAMMVwiaAtMECZQh1YfCPw88g
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January 23, 2014, 01:53:46 AM |
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not necessarily. five 270x should run on a 900w power supply with room to spare. same 2200khash rate from three 280x you'd need to get a 1200w power supply, which is a premium priced item.
3 280x does not need 1200w. 3 per 850w tier1 gold psu (undervolted)
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Impossible is a word found only in the dictionary of fools.
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January 23, 2014, 04:52:53 AM |
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not necessarily. five 270x should run on a 900w power supply with room to spare. same 2200khash rate from three 280x you'd need to get a 1200w power supply, which is a premium priced item.
3 280x does not need 1200w. 3 per 850w tier1 gold psu (undervolted) Yep, I'm sitting at ~230W per undervolted 280x. 3 on a 850 sounds right.
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January 23, 2014, 05:39:41 AM |
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I'm currently working on a rig set up that will pull between 4.6-4.8mh/s. so far I have it running at 4.5-4.6 with no issues but I'm getting closer to tweaking its max performance.
These units will be 6 x sapphire toxic 280x cards on asrock btc pro motherboards with 2 x PSUs.
With shipping whole package around the globe for between $3900-4250 depending on quantities. If anyone is interested in this kind of rig send me a msg! The more the better but ill be limited to just under 30 rigs with this specific card but i can source other 280x and 290/290x models. Thanks guys!
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