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[fabtho]

Is this a pool scam?

 
I'm mining on http://fairquark.dyndns.org:9650


 
For the last Block (19306) Address  qXZhMBQ8nxQ9pdV9iZXxiUtdmvVs9jiPNi gets 555.88566 FRQ.
 
Its on the same block, like my payoutaddress qPjKF7rvpYHV5GJHNzxtFjn4hx3cCTFcRU (15.16519 FRQ).
 
 
http://finder.fairquark.com/block/0000000053981a13091905d38226d63efeebc1d4899ef9b76aec139a28957610

 
So this guy has cpu 37 as fast as mine?
 
My Performance on the pool is 25.5kH/s, his should be 925kH/s, or to be said 1 MH/s.
 
But on the pool Stats, there is no such Address? And nobody with this hashingpower?
 
Is this a pool scam?
 
 
http://fairquark.dyndns.org:9650/static/graphs.html?Week
 
 
Please explain?

[fairglu]

So this guy has cpu 37 as fast as mine?
..
Please explain?

You can have (and probably should) have multiple miners mining to the same address, that's probably what you're seeing here.

If you do some cloud mining, you'll get that automatically when cloning instances: you can have literally hundreds of CPUs mining to the same address in a few mouse clicks, the limit is ho much you're ready to pay to your cloud hoster

[fabtho]

If you do some cloud mining, you'll get that automatically when cloning instances: you can have literally hundreds of CPUs mining to the same address in a few mouse clicks, the limit is ho much you're ready to pay to your cloud hoster

ok, I got that. But why is the address not showing in the pool Graphs?


http://fairquark.dyndns.org:9650/static/graphs.html?Day
http://fairquark.dyndns.org:9650/static/graphs.html?Hour

I imaging, as a pool owner, I can just write some fake shares directly to the pool DB. Or is this not possible, because its in the bitcoin (fairquark) protokoll?

[starbaby6]

wts 100k frk!!

[0btc]

ok, I got that. But why is the address not showing in the pool Graphs?


http://fairquark.dyndns.org:9650/static/graphs.html?Day
http://fairquark.dyndns.org:9650/static/graphs.html?Hour

I imaging, as a pool owner, I can just write some fake shares directly to the pool DB. Or is this not possible, because its in the bitcoin (fairquark) protokoll?

P2Pool's payout tab displays the information pertaining to the entire p2pool network hashing at ~116 mH/s. At this moment, there are (at least) four p2pool nodes connected to eachother:

http://fairquark.dyndns.org:9650 ~800 kH/s
http://0x0a.nl:8372 ~ 1.5 mH/s
http://62.210.204.178:8372 ~ 4 mH/s
http://5.199.162.49:8372 ~ 100 mH/s !!

As you can see, the last p2pool node has 86% of the entire p2pool network hashing power! Looking at http://5.199.162.49:8372/static/graphs.html?Hour, miner qXZhMBQ8nxQ9pdV9iZXxiUtdmvVs9jiPNi averaged 50 mH/s over the past hour, almost half of the entire network.

It would perhaps be useful if p2pool nodes were more explicit about how to find this kind of information, but I'm not sure how accessible such information is for nodes amonst themselves..

[fairglu]

ok, I got that. But why is the address not showing in the pool Graphs?

It's showing there, on another node of the network
http://mine.fairquark.com:8372/static/graphs.html?Day

P2Pool are a little different, what you connect your miner to is a "node", and the nodes interconnect each other using P2P (hence the P2Pool), and they form a network that mine together (for more details see https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool).

Currently the main P2Pool "network" for FairQuark is comprised of 5 nodes, for instance if you look at http://fairpool.co.vu:9640/static/index.html you'll see 4 peers (1 in 3 out), the "pool rate" is the total rate of all 5 nodes and the "local rate" is the rate of miners connected to just that node.

[fairglu]

It would perhaps be useful if p2pool nodes were more explicit about how to find this kind of information, but I'm not sure how accessible such information is for nodes amonst themselves..

It's in there but the standard frontends don't provide much info about other nodes beyond how many of them there are.

Anyway, I guess the underlying issue is that if more miners don't jump in soon, the FairQuark repartition won't really look fair as someone obviously has a lot of hashing power :/

Some extra marketing efforts are going to be needed....

[fabtho]

ok, the pools are connected? I was wrong then. I tought that if one pool finds a block he will just pay to all shares, but in reality p2pool is also an peer2peer protokoll and also should prevent pool stealing. This is well explained here:

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool

sorry for my falsely allegings and thanks for clarifying this

[JoeMD]

Why on pools eternally any intervals in payments? Part of the schedule certainly it isn't visible, but there was more hash rating and there were intervals till some hours in payments.

http://i023.radikal.ru/1401/14/394ad94f7224t.jpg

(http://mine.fairquark.com:8372)

In the last 24 hours there was no payment.

[fairglu]

Why on pools eternally any intervals in payments?

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool#Frequently_Asked_Questions

Could be you didn't generate any share and pool difficulty was too high for your hashrate.

Though after 3 PM in your graph your hashrate dropped drastically, maybe some miners crashed/went buggy/disconnected?

[JoeMD]

it turned out to make a screen from an old bookmark

http://s020.radikal.ru/i705/1401/d6/596e21649777t.jpg

(http://mine.fairquark.com:8372)

With 10pm to 11pm there were payments on 100FRQ and then simply stopped, difficulty couldn't grow so quickly that payments stopped in general. According to official information: Difficulty retarget time: 1 hour (max. 10% of up or of 50% of down) All this is more similar to any deception or incorrect work of a pool.

[fairglu]

it turned out to make a screen from an old bookmark

Hmm, yes, this looks kinda weird, I'm not sure what was going on given your hashrate (and hard to be sure without access to the server-side console, I guess the pool operator would have to chime in)

I see similar drops only for miners with low hashrates at my pool, but for them it's expected.
http://fairpool.co.vu:9640/static/graphs.html?Day
but miners in the 40-50 kH/s are already seeing constant income, let alone at your 2 MH/s.

But then my pool is only at 800 kH/s, so there may be some other issues popping up in higher rate pools.

[JoeMD]

At all I don't understand work of official pools. On one of them (not p2p) day payment was about 25000 coins, and for the next night 0 coins, further day later I checked and found on balance of 4000 coins...

[coolisbad]

I dont't get it. Why is everyone mining when there is no exchange? What is the value of FairQuark?

[Shadow_Runner]

I dont't get it. Why is everyone mining when there is no exchange? What is the value of FairQuark?

Exchanges so fast? Maybe this is long term coin. Have you ever think about that?

[fairglu]

I dont't get it. Why is everyone mining when there is no exchange? What is the value of FairQuark?

Hoping for an exchange, like for all other altcoins before they got an exchange.

Usually when there is an exchange, it's "too late", the difficulty ramped up too much.

[coolisbad]

I dont't get it. Why is everyone mining when there is no exchange? What is the value of FairQuark?

Exchanges so fast? Maybe this is long term coin. Have you ever think about that?

Indeed I thought about it, and it would be good to be so.
But what is the purpose of a coin if you can't change it for something else?

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[BulletCoin]

Why on pools eternally any intervals in payments? Part of the schedule certainly it isn't visible, but there was more hash rating and there were intervals till some hours in payments.

In the last 24 hours there was no payment.

I have experienced also problems on p2pool when the difficulty was very high and my own hashrate was low. I think 40kh/s (mean) is too low for p2pool and I would use that GUI pool instead. Although, no problems for me from p2pools after the launch night and I have pretty average hashrate (one older cpu mining..)

[BulletCoin]

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