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[DubFX]

Anyway - go and vote here
http://www.allcrypt.com/beta/voting.php

Besides the fun of voting, is that site legit?

They seem to be mostly hot air and BTC addresses to "bribe" them right now, or did I miss something?

edit: hmm, and the voting page is broken, it claims about Chrome not supporting websockets... come on! when you can't get a voting page right, you've got much homework to do before you deliver a rock-solid exchange 

Same here i'm suddenly unable to vote...

[DannyTom]

Same here i'm suddenly unable to vote...

That happened to me yesterday, but then later on I was able to vote.  Also emailed SwissCex and hit the Cryptsy topic too.  Let's get this on all the exchanges.

If a few people put some shares up on eBay too, that would be nice!  Get attention from people who aren't familiar with exchanges yet.  That's where I bought my first 100 qrk from lol when I was just learning about this stuff.

[Raist]

Think voting is working again. And yes - ebay idea sounds good, also more exchanges will be helpful for those who wants to sell now for the cheap price (may be 1.5 - 2 btc supply until 100 satoshi rate will be covered) we must help them to have remedy of such sufferings .

[stompix]

FWIW @FairQuark, time to step on it and upgrade the wallet & protocol:

https://www.mtgox.com/press_release_20140210.html

significant bitcoin protocol flaw uncovered by mtgox, which affects exchanges and any service that relies on transaction IDs (which is, about just everyone)

The first coins that'll implement a safer transaction hash can reap the benefits, those that don't risk fading, as knowledge of the attack will spread, and altcoins will low hashrates and few exchanges will be obvious targets.

If you start to believe what MtHoax is saying , there there is no cure for you.

They fucked up with people money since April , they've fucked up with the coins for two months and now they suddenly find out that the culprit is the protocol.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1x93tf/some_irc_chatter_about_what_is_going_on_at_mtgox/cf99yac

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1xieb9/keep_calm_transaction_malleability_is_not_double/

[fairglu]

If you start to believe what MtHoax is saying , there there is no cure for you.

The links you gave don't address the problem. The Gox issue is one that all systems that rely on transaction IDs to keep track of withdrawals can face. Yes, they messed up by not finding the issue months earlier, but the issue is there.

There is no issue for individual wallets, but there are potential issue for other exchanges, pools, online wallets, and all system that keep track of funds outside the block-chain. I'm sure most of them out there rely on the transaction ID (just check their UIs, they all rely on and give unconfirmed TX IDs)

It means exchanges have to rediscover their transactions in the blockchain, and can't use centralized wallets for safe withdrawals, which in turns mean they either need to spam the block-chain with intermediate transfers (to have unique originating address to server as transaction ID ersatz) or issue transaction dust (tx ID ersatz again)

All solutions discussed in IRC are plain stupid (from non-technical headless chicken investors spouting nonsense because they're scared) or will result in further block-chain bloat (and the block chains are already bloating fast enough, thank you).

It's an opportunity to be innovative and avoid silly workarounds.

[stompix]

If you start to believe what MtHoax is saying , there there is no cure for you.

The links you gave don't address the problem. The Gox issue is one that all systems that rely on transaction IDs to keep track of withdrawals can face. Yes, they messed up by not finding the issue months earlier, but the issue is there.

There is no issue for individual wallets, but there are potential issue for other exchanges, pools, online wallets, and all system that keep track of funds outside the block-chain. I'm sure most of them out there rely on the transaction ID (just check their UIs, they all rely on and give unconfirmed TX IDs)

It means exchanges have to rediscover their transactions in the blockchain, and can't use centralized wallets for safe withdrawals, which in turns mean they either need to spam the block-chain with intermediate transfers (to have unique originating address to server as transaction ID ersatz) or issue transaction dust (tx ID ersatz again)

All solutions discussed in IRC are plain stupid (from non-technical headless chicken investors spouting nonsense because they're scared) or will result in further block-chain bloat (and the block chains are already bloating fast enough, thank you).

It's an opportunity to be innovative and avoid silly workarounds.

How about your solution? 
And how about you explain how fairkquark is doing those things differently? =))) As a clone that it is.

[fairglu]

How about your solution? 

Introduce a signed Transaction ID as part of the protocol (same as other coins introduced signed messages as part of the protocol).

And how about you explain how fairkquark is doing those things differently? =))) As a clone that it is.

It isn't, hence why I wrote @FairQuark, I'm not the FairQuark dev.

The big btc guys will (eventually) get workarounds for this, but the myriads of smaller websites and services likely won't, the workarounds are just way more complex, and are just workarounds anyway.

Basically any coin service that gives you a transaction ID for a withdrawal before it has been confirmed by the network is very likely to be doing it wrong (like the MtGox guys), as the transaction could be confirmed by the network under a different ID.

[ex_mac]

Open new p2pool :
http://frq.mine-pool.net/

Welcome ...

[DannyTom]

Voted and donated to their address...getting ready to put some FRQ up on eBay as well to help secure a base price if anyone's interested.

Surprised to FRQ beating out some of the other more established coins like ELP, FRK, BBQ, HBN...good signs.

Established =)))) that made me laugh. Those coins are considered established? With only the dev left holding the flag , or some guy that forget when to dump?

Ok true...I wouldn't call them "established"...but they have been around longer, are on major exchanges already, have larger user bases, and are still profitable either via mining or buying low and selling high.

I've made more from freaking AMC of all the dead crap coins than any other...hell even their website is just a redirect to amazon now.

I still like FRQ.  Wish we could get paper wallets, and more importantly either people dumping coins on ebay for it or an online market for goods being sold for FRQ.

 

[minersday]

So what is the roadmap for the coin?
Are the devs active, finnish devs should be and working on some innovative solutions?

talk to me devs..

[stompix]

So what is the roadmap for the coin?
Are the devs active, finnish devs should be and working on some innovative solutions?

talk to me devs..

Usually the road map is > to the mooooon!
Innovative solutions? Common.

[DannyTom]

http://www.allcrypt.com/beta/voting.php

267 votes last time I checked...way up from the 15 votes it had 2 days ago.  Keep supporting FRQ if you want it to take off and become uber profitable!

Need fewer trolls popping in saying, "what have devs done lately."  Question should be, "What have YOU done to promote FRQ lately."

[stompix]

http://www.allcrypt.com/beta/voting.php

267 votes last time I checked...way up from the 15 votes it had 2 days ago.  Keep supporting FRQ if you want it to take off and become uber profitable!

Need fewer trolls popping in saying, "what have devs done lately."  Question should be, "What have YOU done to promote FRQ lately."

No , you need devs answering "this ..........has been done lately" ))

[fairglu]

Yes, hype and devs speaking up is definitely good.

And speaking of hype, we have an "anomaly" happening right now (a positive one): the number of FRQ transaction in the recent blocks has been increasing... something happening? 

[fairglu]

Transaction count anomaly visible at:

http://coinz.co.vu/diff/?frq  (or experimental http://coinz.co.vu/diff/dy.dws?frq less pretty but more accurate chart library)

I've found the culprit, someone has been dicing like crazy 

http://dice.fairpool.co.vu/?debug

And the FairQuark transaction count record has just been beaten (31 transactions per block).

[fairglu]

I'm placing dice

Ah, it's you, good way to stress-test the network, on the other hand one better being able to achieve transaction count records means the network hasn't been much stressed so far 

I'll pour the "benefits" into the faucet (though at 1% edge, hehe... won't be much)

[fairglu]

I am so proud at this moment !!

Well deserved, sir!



 

[DannyTom]

@fairglue is http://fairpool.co.vu:9640 and the faucet there run by you?  I'm on 3 pools and that one earns me the most from mining so far.  Unfortunately I wasted days of hash on Metacoin and MinCoin (er...MaxCoin) plus I still feel the need to mine QRK proper.

Props to whoever runs it.

The only thing I do not like about this coin is the fact I keep wanting to pronounce it Farquaad (as in Prince Farquaad from Shrek).  Other than that [insert McDonald's jingle] bah da bop bah dah I'm lovin it.

[fairglu]

@fairglue is http://fairpool.co.vu:9640 and the faucet there run by you?

Yes that's me:)

I'm planning to have the server upgraded in the next hours/days (not sure when I'll get the new one, should have been delivered yesterday...).
If everything goes as planned, the transition should be transparent to miners.

I'm on 3 pools and that one earns me the most from mining so far.

P2Pools give best returns IME, but the transaction dust means you have to periodically switch to a new wallet, as the thousandths of transactions just swamp the wallet into sluggishness...

[FairQuark]

https://twitter.com/FairQuark/status/433665591954530304