Atheism does not exist

[dank]

The idea behind atheism is the non existence of god.  This logic is inherently flawed as itself is a negative.  Non existence does not exist.  To say non existence exists is a fallacy.  It is like a riddle.

Likewise, nothing is nothing.  You cannot be nothing, nor can you become something from nothing, nor can you become nothing from something.  Existence is eternal.

You may conceptualize nothingness, perhaps as darkness or void, but you cannot perceive nothing, for nothing does not exist.

Try not to get hung up on the title, you may perceive atheism to exist, though the basis of atheism itself does not exist.

Former atheist that used to believe in nothing.

[Vod]

The idea behind atheism is the non existence of god.  This logic is inherently flawed as itself is a negative.  Non existence does not exist.  To say non existence exists is a fallacy.  It is like a riddle.

Likewise, nothing is nothing.  You cannot be nothing, nor can you become something from nothing, nor can you become nothing from something.  Existence is eternal.

You may conceptualize nothingness, perhaps as darkness or void, but you cannot perceive nothing, for nothing does not exist.

Try not to get hung up on the title, you may perceive atheism to exist, though the basis of atheism itself does not exist.

Former atheist that used to believe in nothing.

Dude - how much longer until you are killed?

You keep saying "soon", but it's just dragging on and on...

[dank]

It could be a week, it could be months.  Either way, it is soon.

As a stern believer in the non existence of 'starfairies' or whatever you call god, do you wish to discuss the topic at hand, vod?

[Vod]

It could be a week, it could be months.  Either way, it is soon.

As a stern believer in the non existence of 'starfairies' or whatever you call god, do you wish to discuss the topic at hand, vod?

As I posted earlier, I'm interested in discussing with people that are not psychotic. 

[dank]

You believe in non existence.  Not to label you, but that belief is delusional.  Psychotic: False beliefs about what is taking place or who one is (delusions).

The basis of non existence is a false belief.  It is a negative.

Tell me, how does something you can think about not exist?

[EvilPanda]

You believe in non existence.  Not to label you, but that belief is delusional.  Psychotic: False beliefs about what is taking place or who one is (delusions).

The basis of non existence is a false belief.  It is a negative.

Tell me, how does something you can think about not exist?

It exists as a concept. You can think of invisible people, which doesn't mean they exist.

[Wilikon]

According to obama Atheism is a religion it seems.. Hahahaha!
He is never wrong, do not forget that little people!

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[Rassah]

Atheism isn't a believe in the non-existence of god, it is saying "I don't believe you when you claim that god exists, because you don't have any evidence."

That's all.

[dank]

You believe in non existence.  Not to label you, but that belief is delusional.  Psychotic: False beliefs about what is taking place or who one is (delusions).

The basis of non existence is a false belief.  It is a negative.

Tell me, how does something you can think about not exist?

It exists as a concept. You can think of invisible people, which doesn't mean they exist.

Non existence is quite different from invisible people, the former being a negative.

If you can think about invisible people, do they not exist?  Otherwise, how did you fathom the thought of invisible people in the first place?


That's got to be the only thing I've heard from obama's mouth that I agree about.  Disbelief of everything is the same as believing in nothing.

Atheism isn't a believe in the non-existence of god, it is saying "I don't believe you when you claim that god exists, because you don't have any evidence."

That's all.

Don't believe is equal to disbelief which is equal to believing in the non existence of something.  Disbelieving creates a negative, false statement.

Look at it like this, if nothing is nothing, then everything is everything.  If the universe is everything, then everything is the universe, right?

And can something exist outside of everything?  Or is everything something?

[Schleicher]

These are just word games.
It has nothing to do with logic.

<plonk>

[dank]

What are words but labels that convey logic?

[Vod]

What are words but labels that convey logic?

Hey nut job.  Why did you post in this this thread pretending you were an alt?  Just to troll?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=417413.0

[dank]

What are words but labels that convey logic?

Hey nut job.  Why did you post in this this thread pretending you were an alt?  Just to troll?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=417413.0

Why do you derail every topic with childish insults rather than having an intellectual conversation?

Would you care to first explain how you can think of something if that something does not exist?

[Vod]

What are words but labels that convey logic?

Hey nut job.  Why did you post in this this thread pretending you were an alt?  Just to troll?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=417413.0

Why do you derail every topic with childish insults rather than having an intellectual conversation?

Would you care to first explain how you can think of something if that something does not exist?

Answer the question nut job. Is that your alt account, or did you post just to be a troll?

[dank]

Answer mine first, you're welcome to leave this thread if you cannot retain to the topic in the OP.

How you can think of something if that something does not exist?

[dank]

can you*

[Vod]

Answer mine first, you're welcome to leave this thread if you cannot retain to the topic in the OP.

But you have no problem going into other people's thread and ruining their transactions?  Then you demand people stick to the topic in yours?   

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=417413.0

You've sold all your possessions for pot, now suddenly you have a couple R9 290's to sell?

You are either a liar, or a troll.  Personally I think you are both.

[dank]

I will explain everything shortly after you give a valid response to my question.

And I hate to judge you, but you're quite judgmental, I will leave it at that.

Let's see your word vod, tell me your convictions rather than opinionated negative assertions.

How can you think of something if that something does not exist?

[Vod]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=417413.0

You've sold all your possessions for pot, now suddenly you have a couple R9 290's to sell?

You are either a liar, or a troll.  Personally I think you are both.

[dank]

How is this acceptable?  You can't comprehend something so you attack the person saying it with lies and judgment?  I gave my possessions away in 2012, I did not sell them for cannabis.

This community should not operate through defamation.

Please make your own flame dank thread if you wish to continue your belittling attempts of debasing the truth.

And the truth is, you can't answer this question with a logical response: How can you think of something if that something does not exist?