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[crazywack]

Sounds like a great way to combat the ever increasing phishing scams in the BTC world.

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[TwitchySeal]

Increased Email Security With Email Verification Code at Betcoin.ag

In order to increase our player security and prevent against phishing attempts and unauthorized messages going to players we have instituted an Email verification system.

Dooglus has very good questions. 

Also, what happened? How did 'they' get everyone's account name and email address? Were funds stolen?

Should I include these questions in the the official "Scummy things that Betcoin.ag has done" list under "Serious Questions they've chosen to ignore "


I'll ask one more time, just to be fair.

What happened?

How did 'they' get everyone's account name and email address? 

Were funds stolen?

[hopenotlate]

What happened?

How did 'they' get everyone's account name and email address?  

Were funds stolen?

I was wondering about it as well .....to be more precise I was wondering if some of my accounts details were stolen as my funds remained untouched tbh

[DuddlyDoRight]

These accounts weren't "phished" they were taken from a database dump which required SQL injection, CGI script vulnerabilities, or server vulnerabilities.

Best case scenario they used an API as a transaction gateway and immediately changed the API key before it was used on the wallet addresses stored with those user details else(full-wallet via CGI on same server) private keys are likely in attackers hands and all the currency has to be ported to a new key; which they also probably don't know how to do.

This is why I laugh every time I see these venture capital type guys in the crypto coin community making new crypto coins and services typically using the cheapest dev talent they can find.. It's the same with all types of services -especially betting and tumblers and TOR markets-. Habib from India has your security covered yall XD

[donk4u]

MAYBE THEY CAN HAVE ANOTHER ANTI COLLUSION FREEROLL AND INVITE ALL THE CHEATERS THEY CAUGHT LIKE LAST TIME ROFL. HOPENOTLATE KEEPS COMING IN SEALS THREAD AFFILIATING WITH HIS LINK AND BETCOIN AVATOR  DO NOT PLAY ON THIS SITE THAT ALLOWS CAUGHT CHEATERS TO PLAY IN ANTI COLLUDER FREEROLLS THAT IT SPONSORS  

HOPENOLATE YOU SHILL THEY STOLE ALL YOUR AFFILIATES THAT YOU GOT FROM ADVERTISING IN SEALS THREAD DUDE OH OH OH

ALSO SECURITY HAS BEEN QUESTIONED BEFORE THIS SITE IS NOT SAFE AS ANY IDIOT EVEN HOPENOLATE THE SHILL WHO KEEPS COMING IN SEALS THREAD SHILLING FOR THIS UNSRCUPULOUZ SITE CAN SEE

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[TwitchySeal]

Hi,

Players are still wondering how our account information got into scammers hands. 

Please respond.

Thanks

Increased Email Security With Email Verification Code at Betcoin.ag

In order to increase our player security and prevent against phishing attempts and unauthorized messages going to players we have instituted an Email verification system.

Dooglus has very good questions. 

Also, what happened? How did 'they' get everyone's account name and email address? Were funds stolen?

Should I include these questions in the the official "Scummy things that Betcoin.ag has done" list under "Serious Questions they've chosen to ignore "


I'll ask one more time, just to be fair.

What happened?

How did 'they' get everyone's account name and email address? 

Were funds stolen?

[donk4u]

Someone posted the following:  just talked to support why my withdraw took 3 days just now and they said it was cuz some people have been illegally obtaining Bitcoins somehow and then using Betcoin as a way to "wash" or launder that money so they must review a lot of cashouts in detail right now.

Do not trust these bumbling bumblers.  PEOPLE  HAD THEIR EMAILS COMPROMISEDAND PHISHING ATTEMPS WHERE MADE. THIS SITE HAD AN ANTI COLLUSION FREEROLL AND ALLOWED CHEATERS IT CAUGHT RED HANDED PLAY BECAUSE HEY EVERYONE DESERVES A SECOND CHANCE. nOW THEY ARE CLAIMING THERE IS A CONSPIRACY OF PEOPLE USING THEIR SITE TO WASH ILLEGALLY GOTTEN BITCOINS.  

IT MAKES SENSE NOW. PEOPLE GOT ILLEGAL BITCOINS THROUGH PHISHING BY SOMEHOW OBTAINING EMAILS OF BETCOINS CUSTOMERS. ROFL BUNGLING BUNGLERS ARE CLUESLESS. HOW ABOUT ANOTHER FREEROLL THIS TIME FOR ANTI PHISHING AND LET PEOPLE WHO PHISHED BITCOINS PLAY BECAAUSE HEY PEOPLE DESERVE A SECXOND CHANCE.

[marlais]

These guys are killing me...so at the bottom of their e-mails, it now says:

Email Security Code: xxxx

Click To Verify Email Authenticity: https://www.betcoin.ag/mail_security_verify?code=xxxx

In before someone exploits this and half of Betcoin users get trojaned.

[DuddlyDoRight]

If they have your username and email it means at some point they had full access to the databases.. It's not rocket science..

[donk4u]

LOL no comment from betcoin admins regarding the hack to their players emails. iNSTEAD THESE BETCOIN ADMIN CLOWNS ARE TELLNG THEIR PLAYERS THAT BETCOIN WAS BEING USED BY UNSRCUPULOUS PLAYERS TO WASH BITCOINS BUNCH OF CLUELESS BAFOOONS.   SHOCKING   HOPEFULLY THIS WILL DISUADE SHILLS LIKE HOTENPLATE FROM COMING INTO SEALS SITE AND SHILLING. iM JUST RETURNING THE FAVOR.

[hopenotlate]

LOL no comment from betcoin admins regarding the hack to their players emails. iNSTEAD THESE BETCOIN ADMIN CLOWNS ARE TELLNG THEIR PLAYERS THAT BETCOIN WAS BEING USED BY UNSRCUPULOUS PLAYERS TO WASH BITCOINS BUNCH OF CLUELESS BAFOOONS.   SHOCKING   HOPEFULLY THIS WILL DISUADE SHILLS LIKE HOTENPLATE FROM COMING INTO SEALS SITE AND SHILLING. iM JUST RETURNING THE FAVOR.

I don't know precisely what's your problem but it's clear you have at least one.

Be aware I'm ( and I feel) free to post whatever I think it'sworth  whenever and wherever I want (until I act within the forum rules).

If you like you can keep on acting as the boss (if it helps you with your problems); I suggest you to create a selfmoderated thread so you will have also deleting privilege, I'm sure you will enjoy it.

FYI am a long time swc player and still playing on swc (and, once more, will keep on posting in swc thread like I used to do). Also a firsttimer at betcoin.ag , at betcoin.tm  at Fortunejack, played a bit on Nitrogen, satoshipoker and so on. And appreciate for different reasons everyone of them.


Be aware, from now on, if you would like me to read your post ask someone else to quote you because you have the honour to become the first one joining my ignore list.

[Betcoin.AG]

I don't know precisely what's your problem but it's clear you have at least one.

Be aware I'm ( and I feel) free to post whatever I think it'sworth  whenever and wherever I want (until I act within the forum rules).

If you like you can keep on acting as the boss (if it helps you with your problems); I suggest you to create a selfmoderated thread so you will have also deleting privilege, I'm sure you will enjoy it.

FYI am a long time swc player and still playing on swc (and, once more, will keep on posting in swc thread like I used to do). Also a firsttimer at betcoin.ag , at betcoin.tm  at Fortunejack, played a bit on Nitrogen, satoshipoker and so on. And appreciate for different reasons everyone of them.


Be aware, from now on, if you would like me to read your post ask someone else to quote you because you have the honour to become the first one joining my ignore list.

We have a lot of respect for many of the other websites in the bitcoin gaming community and there is plenty of room for us all to succeed and continue to compete for your business.  This will only make the opportunities better for all of our great players.  hopenotlate and donk4u we encourage you both to continue to post as you see fit here at bitcoin talk and not be dissuaded by another persons attempts to censor you.  Fortunately, people here at bitcointalk are very smart and can discern truth from opinion and develop their own experience.  

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[TwitchySeal]

We have a lot of respect for many of the other websites in the bitcoin gaming community and there is plenty of room for us all to succeed and continue to compete for your business.  This will only make the opportunities better for all of our great players.  hopenotlate and donk4u we encourage you both to continue to post as you see fit here at bitcoin talk and not be dissuaded by another persons attempts to censor you.  Fortunately, people here at bitcointalk are very smart and can discern truth from opinion and develop their own experience. 

I would like to encourage you to respond to my posts.
You mention not letting others censor them, but you are guilty of censorship yourself.
Why did you delete these posts?
Do you consider this spam?

Wow, deleted my posts within 2 minutes...what rule did I break this time Betcoin?

Why is betcoin refusing to accept responsibility for failing to protect players personal email addresses?

Why is betcoin refusing to accept responsibility for taking more rake than they were entitled to?

Why hasn't Betcoin explained to me why I am banned from your site, when all I've done (and will continue to do) is ask questions just like these?  Meanwhile, there are many players who have have cheated or scammed other players that are not banned.  Do you really consider me more of a threat than multi accounters like freshstart?  Or serial scammers like Rozay?  Or someone worldpeace who ddos' other players in hopes of extorting money from them?

Is this something you've learned just recently? 

people here at bitcointalk are very smart and can discern truth from opinion and develop their own experience. 

Because not long ago you seemed very willing to lie.  Did you think then that people here at bitcointalk weren't smart enough to see through your unscrupulous scumbaggery?  Is that why you are ignoring me now?  You know lying won't work, do you think telling the truth would be even worse?

In case you don't remember, here are two of the lies you've told.  Each time you were called out you simply pretended as if nothing had ever happened, I suppose you were just hoping that eventually everyone would forget about them and they would be buried in the thread forever. 

• Betcoin can't ignore Dooglus, so they lie to him
  

  It's a little concerning that you don't appear to have replied to any of his posts here. He seems to be raising valid concerns, but you leave them unanswered.
  Did you really use 10 BTC confiscated from cheating players to fund a promotion instead of giving them back to the players they were stolen from? If so, how do you justify that?
  Did you really allow those same cheating players to them play in the freeroll funded with the money they stole, after claiming to have zero tolerance for cheating? That sounds pretty crazy if it's true.
  

  
  It seems Betcoin Jessica was unaware that Betcoin Andrew had already admitted they had let the cheaters play months ago HERE
  
  

  Hi Dooglus, it's because we did return most of the btc and we still ran a 10 btc freeroll to thank players for their support on top of returning funds.  This was many months ago and was handled expediently.  Ironically, most of the players were from a prop program which we no longer have, yet most of the players still play in. 
  No we did not allow those players to play in the tournament but as you may know a bitcoin gaming website creates some unique challenges which we embrace. 
  We have addressed all of this before and will happily address it again as we continue to move forward. 
  Thanks guys!
  Jessica

  
  

  After several emails with this player and banning the other accounts associated, we have let him play under a strict watchful eye. We believe in second chances at Betcoin and we are watching him and many other players very closely.

  
  
  
• Betcoin lies about their own ticket system while attempting to discredit a player who claims they have many unanswered tickets.
  

  I still have ~ 3 dozen support tickets that date back as far as 9 months ago that are still open and unresolved and ~ 1 dozen of which have never even been replied to.
  

  Very interesting considering we haven't had the ticketing system anywhere close to 9 months.  What is your login name?  36 unresolved tickets over 9 months is definitely something we would like to see considering we only added the ticketing system 4-6 months ago.  Also, to note, unresolved tickets brought to our attention will be resolved, therefore just let us know your login name and we will have an immediate review. 
  

  
  I posted an email with a link to a ticket from last March proving they did, in fact, have the ticketing system then.
  
  

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Betcoin.ag [mailto:support@betcoin.ag]
  Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 5:02 PM
  To:XXXXXXXXXXX
  Subject: Ticket #10059: My Affiliate
  
  ---- Reply above this line ----
  
  twitchyseal,
  
  Thank you for contacting us. This is an automated response confirming the receipt of your ticket. We usually respond to emails within a few hours, however, sometimes it can take up to 24 hours to get a response. When replying to future responses, please make sure that the Ticket ID is kept in the email subject so that we can track your replies.
  
  If you have an account you can view your ticket at:
  https://www.betcoin.ag/ticket/10059

  
  
  
  
  

[donk4u]

LOL no comment from betcoin admins regarding the hack to their players emails. iNSTEAD THESE BETCOIN ADMIN CLOWNS ARE TELLNG THEIR PLAYERS THAT BETCOIN WAS BEING USED BY UNSRCUPULOUS PLAYERS TO WASH BITCOINS BUNCH OF CLUELESS BAFOOONS.   SHOCKING   HOPEFULLY THIS WILL DISUADE SHILLS LIKE HOTENPLATE FROM COMING INTO SEALS SITE AND SHILLING. iM JUST RETURNING THE FAVOR.

I don't know precisely what's your problem but it's clear you have at least one.

Be aware I'm ( and I feel) free to post whatever I think it'sworth  whenever and wherever I want (until I act within the forum rules).

If you like you can keep on acting as the boss (if it helps you with your problems); I suggest you to create a selfmoderated thread so you will have also deleting privilege, I'm sure you will enjoy it.

FYI am a long time swc player and still playing on swc (and, once more, will keep on posting in swc thread like I used to do). Also a firsttimer at betcoin.ag , at betcoin.tm  at Fortunejack, played a bit on Nitrogen, satoshipoker and so on. And appreciate for different reasons everyone of them.


Be aware, from now on, if you would like me to read your post ask someone else to quote you because you have the honour to become the first one joining my ignore list.


redacted, see next post don't want to answer this shill hotenplate who keeps popping up in seals thread with betcoin avatar and affiliate link trying to poach players from seals thru unscrupulous methods.

[donk4u]

I think betcoin should accept responsibility and be up front with their player base that account emails where hacked instead of coming up with some outlandish excuse for payment slowdowns that originated from players using betcoin to launder money. I mean comeon. I think the mods of bitcointalk should also dissalow people like hotenplate from coming in to other sites threads with betcoin avatars and affiliatelinks in an obvious ploy to poach players.

I remember when Seals emails on old seals where compromised the site warned players advised them to change passwords, in fact couldn't play if didn't change passwords and fixed the bug. Betcoin is advising its player base to goto a site that ensures emails recieved from betcoin are actually from betcoin unless I miss read that.

Betcoin support please address how players emails where exploited, accessed and what you have done to resolve this issue. Thank you

[michigan]

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[donk4u]

Betcoin.ag has the best promotions online and is amazing.If you like playing poker there mtts have the biggest and best prize pools around.They also have a amazing top of the line sports book and casino.I would suggest betcoin.ag hands down over anything else for anyone that wants online gaming.They also provide you with a community chat room thats is great for player communication and fun and also players do sidebets to betcoins amazing betcoin only tourney the daily coin on a nightly basis.BETCOIN.AG  is the place to be!!!!

if you don't mind your email addresses being hacked because of their poor security and then  having them cover it up then yes

[TwitchySeal]

Betcoin.ag has the best promotions online and is amazing.If you like playing poker there mtts have the biggest and best prize pools around.They also have a amazing top of the line sports book and casino.I would suggest betcoin.ag hands down over anything else for anyone that wants online gaming.They also provide you with a community chat room thats is great for player communication and fun and also players do sidebets to betcoins amazing betcoin only tourney the daily coin on a nightly basis.BETCOIN.AG  is the place to be!!!!

if you don't mind your email addresses being hacked because of their poor security and then  having them cover it up then yes

Or if you're a scammer and a cheat like michigan is.

Then Betcoin is perfect.  Even when he does get caught, they let him choose which account he wants to continue playing on.

This is a ss of Betcoin Staff communicating before they realize that "liking" a post made part of it public.