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January 24, 2014, 05:52:01 PM |
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Until this moment i had no idea i was talking to a real live corporation I did not say you were committing fraud, in fact i was making sure you didnt commit fraud I am one of the early nex supporters. Are you going to sue one of your initial supporters for trying to help? When you said manipulating people was not a crime, i just got so concerned for you That is exactly what all the guys who end up being convicted of fraud usually say
Carlos, i know you are not that kind of guy. You just are doing this for a piblic service. But what is the profit angle? Maybe codeaudit is a nonprofit company? Then all this makes sense
James
So it is clear, CodeAudit is a for-profit corporation incorporated in the state of Delaware. FrictionlessCoin will be the brand for products that will create all kinds of crypto-currency software for sale. One of these products may be a Nxt clone that we may offer for sale to the public. Carlos Perez is a shareholder in CodeAudit Corp. "FrictionlessCoin" in this forum relates to the actions of the corporation. "solracx" in this forum relates to the actions of the person. So it is even clearer to you, ZenithCoin is owned and by Carlos Perez. FrictionlessCoin created ZenithCoin. FrictionlessCoin also is the lead developer for iXcoin and makes its software contributions for free for iXcoin. FrictionlessCoin has other projects in the pipeline regarding crypto-currencies. In short, if FrictionlessCoin decides that selling a Nxt clone has financial potential, then it is clearly within the laws of the United States of America and the State of Delaware to provide such software. ROFLMAO.....that has got to be the sneakiest about-turn the FCs have ever tried to pull off. I cant express how much LOL i'm doing right now. I've watched FrictionlessCoin and solracx have an honest to god conversation with each other on this forum, and now it turns out that Carlos The Human was actually talking to Carlos The Corporation. One man, 2 hats. Much confusion. So many suck poppets.
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January 24, 2014, 05:54:08 PM |
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I'm in for 10k nxt
Really ? or are u just trolling the poor old FCs ? If not troll, may I recommend reading thread before investing.
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January 24, 2014, 05:57:43 PM |
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Yes. So crypto-currencies are a ponzi scheme? That is a surprise to me. I don't see the U.S. government declaring crypto-currencies a ponzi scheme. Wait, are you making an accusation here that CodeAudit corp (i.e. FrictionlessCoin) is running an illegal activity? Is that what you want to say? Let me know, because I may need your name and address.
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January 24, 2014, 05:58:51 PM |
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Thanks! As long as you follow all the corporate rules and dont manipulate people, i would be interested in investing. What sort of revenues does your company make? I am still confused how you planned on making money from nex if you were giving everything away. It makes a lot more business sense now that you are simply exchanging nxt for nex nix, why bother with fairness when there is big profits to be made. It was amazing the way you manipulated people by saying it woild be totally fair at first and then had this evolve to s simple exchange. now you are laughing all the way to the bank!
When is your nasdaq ipo? Can i be an early investor?
James
The person who wrote Nxt (BCNext) earned 21 BTC for his efforts. The Nxt to NEX (or anything similar) is just a collective purchase of the currency. What you call manipulation is called 'marketing' in other circles. CodeAudit corp is currently private... but listing on CryptoStocks may be an option. Maybe you need to realize, this isn't a hobby anymore. Serious money is being made and maybe its about time you start your own corporation. How much money have you made with nex? Can i invest in your wonderful company? James
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EvilDave
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January 24, 2014, 05:58:54 PM |
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What you call manipulation is called 'marketing' in other circles. And "lying" in some other circles.
CodeAudit corp is currently private... but listing on CryptoStocks may be an option. Why CodeAudit, why not FrictionLessCrypto or something less audity....?
Italics r mine....
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January 24, 2014, 06:08:47 PM |
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Legally when they say a corporation is a separate person, it is with the assumption that you have all the paperwork in place. Corporate charter, board meetings, corporate resolutions, and whatever you do don't ever commingle any personal funds with corporate funds. That would almost certainly invalid the whole separate person status and make you fully liable personally for anything the corpotarion did. So would not having a real corporation So would not following all the rules of the state you are incoeporated in That is why i asked about what state you were incorporated in How large is the board of directors?
James
Corporate entity is incorporated in the State of Delaware under the name CodeAudit Corp. Accusing a company of fraud without having something to back it up can get you sued for defamation. So be very careful what you say. James, may I have your name and address, just in case. Nice change of tack, Intern. A defamation claim will only work if you can prove that your good name has been harmed. In this case, it will very probably lead to the judge deciding that you (or your employees) engaged in exactly that. Ordinary name calling does not constitute defamation, nor does calling you to account on your actions and asking for things you promised. Furthermore, this is the first time you disclosed that you actually represented said company, so any comments aimed at the nickname FrictionlessCoin before this statement will never be taken into account, as anyone can reasonably argue that they were under the impression that they were addressing a person. That actually could be construed as "misleading", you know? Not giving out your identity to people who want to engage in commerce in good faith isn't...weeeeeeeellll, I'll let you think up that word. You clearly have no idea to what extent the law protects you or your "company" against "defamation". Just another way of trying to get the other person to shut up, instead of owning up to the fact that you actually have nothing to offer and no cards of value in your hands.
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January 24, 2014, 06:23:30 PM |
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5,000 more NXT for 250,000 more NEX, total 10,000 NXT for 500,000 total NEX
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January 24, 2014, 06:26:25 PM |
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mudderfudder tried those same tactics on me after I went public about his puppet run coins. Just cashed out a ton of btc. I have devoted 5btc to see if a defamation case is likely to result in a positive outcome for what you posted and damages to business.
Good luck and regards
I would not be too surprised to learn that he is involved in this or other IPOs.
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January 24, 2014, 06:30:31 PM |
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On another note: isn't this all exciting!
I wonder if it will all be made into a movie in the future.
I want to be played by the future equivalent of Christopher Walken.
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January 24, 2014, 06:37:08 PM Last edit: January 24, 2014, 07:05:55 PM by EvilDave |
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Pity all of this happened on a public forum with daily/weekly/monthly backups (and possibly comprehensive change logs) available.
If the FCs try pulling legal action (though I've got no idea for what. Forum, mate, get the concept ?) the only evidence that the FCs will have to present will also have every single word he/she/they/it have ever posted.
I don't think the court will be all that impressed by a complete and total record of every single thing the FCs have ever said and done here.. Come to think of it, i'd almost pay good money to have this thread (and a couple of others) read out in an open courtroom. Much LOL, some poetry......
Give it up, FCs, u must know u can't win on this point.
Unless the FCs are also a lawyer and some judges on their infrequent days off.
@Damelon: I can't decide between Hugh Grant or Danny Trejo to portray me.....maybe Andy Serkis for the various FCs.
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January 24, 2014, 09:20:26 PM |
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January 24, 2014, 09:36:26 PM |
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It's the self-moderated thread... Kinda uncool, you delete stuff you don't like Not good for an IPO (true, fair, free, you know what I mean) people please stay on this thread, more transparency is better
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January 24, 2014, 10:23:18 PM |
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It's the self-moderated thread... Kinda uncool, you delete stuff you don't like Not good for an IPO (true, fair, free, you know what I mean) people please stay on this thread, more transparency is better![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. I'm still waiting for your explanation regarding solracx's contact email, Mr. Perez. hmmm... I thought FC was Perez ... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.techpowerup.org%2F140123%2Fperez.jpg&t=665&c=G1A_OehXbYv8rg)
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January 24, 2014, 10:30:19 PM |
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So current plan is to give
450 million coins to Visacoin victims. 650 million for buy in of 1 million NXT (or equivalent) to pay for development.
zero allocation for dev.
I'm losing track! It's 1.1 billion coins now, 40.9% given freely to the Visacoin victims, 59.1% sold to investors at a current market price of 88 bitcoins. That right? I don't get the "zero allocation for dev." bit, when you say that you are buying some yourself: 9500 solracx
Although not the maximum 10,000! Just 9,500.
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January 24, 2014, 11:11:19 PM |
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This post seems to have fallen off FCs self-modded thread for some strange reason. I'll put it here, see if it sticks: A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. FC: busy little thread u got here.
And u seem to be wearing your sane person hat today. U can actually sound credible when u try hard enough, so don't let any nasty NXT trolls annoy you.
A couple of points:
Still not interested. Sorry....
Your solracx/Carlos alter ego apparently owns 50% of all ZenithCoin. Given your love of a fair and equitable distribution, this must cause u sleepless nights, So, when can we expect the great Xenith Coin giveaway thread ? I'll take 100,000 off your hands if u like, just to help u sleep with a clear conscience. Any one else want some?
Can u provide more details of your dev team ? Since u admitted that FC and solracx are in fact the same person, this has reduced the visible dev team to one. I'm concerned that u may end up with too much work to do on your own, what with the dev work and the marketing and the fundraising and the coffee making and the NameCoin project and the ZenithCoin and the iXcoin........u need to pace yourself, mate. Get some help in.
How is Lucky88888 doing ? If u remember, from around 3 days ago, he was an investor in nex, who claims to have lost 9995 NXT while using your original nex client release. Have u got in touch with him to offer help/compensation ? I could do it for u if u like, reduce that workload a bit.
Wishing u all the best with this incredibly interesting and very original project.
And as usual, a little FC quote:
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January 24, 2014, 11:16:41 PM |
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So it is clear, CodeAudit is a for-profit corporation incorporated in the state of Delaware.
FrictionlessCoin will be the brand for products that will create all kinds of crypto-currency software for sale.
One of these products may be a Nxt clone that we may offer for sale to the public.
Carlos Perez is a shareholder in CodeAudit Corp. "FrictionlessCoin" in this forum relates to the actions of the corporation. "solracx" in this forum relates to the actions of the person.
So it is even clearer to you, ZenithCoin is owned and by Carlos Perez. FrictionlessCoin created ZenithCoin.
FrictionlessCoin also is the lead developer for iXcoin and makes its software contributions for free for iXcoin.
FrictionlessCoin has other projects in the pipeline regarding crypto-currencies.
In short, if FrictionlessCoin decides that selling a Nxt clone has financial potential, then it is clearly within the laws of the United States of America and the State of Delaware to provide such software.
Hi FC! Thanks for clearing all this up. Maybe you could answer just three more questions for me? It would really be great. 1. Is it always Carlos Perez writing the posts as FrictionlessCoin, or are there other people with access to that account? 2. In any of the threads that relate to NEX, NIX, NXT, NXT descendants, or NEX descendants, has Carlos Perez or FrictionlessCoin or Solracz ever posted under any other accounts? 3. Do you think you (or Carlos Perez or FrictionlessCoin or Solracz) have (intentionally or not) deceived anyone by posting under two separate accounts? (Especially when these two accounts occasionally reply to each other) Thanks in advance! I'm sure you have nothing to hide so no reason not to answer them.
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January 24, 2014, 11:24:22 PM |
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Gentlemen, Many of the trolls here are deliberately changing the reservation link, this is the link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=429399I remind people on this board that deceptively changing the original link can be construed as fraudulent activity. Thank you. I ask you all to fix your links before it is captured for posterity.
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January 24, 2014, 11:47:21 PM |
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Gentlemen, Many of the trolls here are deliberately changing the reservation link, this is not the link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137288I remind people on this board that deceptively changing the original link can be construed as fraudulent activity. Thank you. I ask you all to fix your links before it is captured for posterity. That would be one of the trolls, FC. Yes, it's me..... How is forwarding a click to the scam accusations board from within my own post fraudulent activity ? And, I have to point out, it has already been captured for posterity. Remember my post about backups from almost a page ago ?
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January 25, 2014, 12:02:01 AM |
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Gentlemen, Many of the trolls here are deliberately changing the reservation link, this is not the link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137288I remind people on this board that deceptively changing the original link can be construed as fraudulent activity. Thank you. I ask you all to fix your links before it is captured for posterity. That would be one of the trolls, FC. Yes, it's me..... How is forwarding a click to the scam accusations board from within my own post fraudulent activity ? And, I have to point out, it has already been captured for posterity. Remember my post about backups from almost a page ago ? So you admit to deliberately altering the links so that they land in other pages?
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