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January 23, 2014, 03:07:20 PM |
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I just had a thought... If all miners get are TXfees, then we would have to do some transactions. If there is no platform for doing these transactions besides initial distribution, how would miners benefit? This would work great with a fully mined and traded coin with lots of volume (or any at all), but I'm not so sure how it would work with one like this. Anyone want to chime in?
I see what you're thinking but maybe this adds another element to alt coin trading and mining? As the miners want something to mine and therefore get something to trade or dump for btc (as is true for many people here), then the miners would need to get fully invested in the success of a coin such as this one so that they can have both something to mine and something with a value to trade once they mine (which then gives them more to mine, right, as this is mining for the tx fee?) I guess we won't really know until we start. Every thought experiment I come up with takes me back to the TXfee amount problem. What if it's really high, like 10? Sure the guy with the big ASIC would get it, but trade volume would be low due to the high fee, so he wouldn't get much and might even lose interest and allow a better spread (does it even spread, or does it always go to the fastest hash?) to the smaller miners. What if it's really low? Increased trade volume would invite the big fish and the little guys wouldn't get much, if anything. If you really think about it, it's a whole different beast altogether but I could just be totally missing the point. Obviously, I'm still learning about the crypto world. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Maybe make the tx fees start high and halve over time, so in the beginning when there are few transactions the fee is 1 coin, and every 6 months it halves as the transactions theoretically increase. If there was a way to tie the fee % to average number of observed transactions this could work nicely. Edit: in the beginning when the coins value is low the fee of 1 coin isn't much, but as the value increases the avg transaction size would drop so it would make sense that, say a .1 PMC fee makes more sense and might have a similar real world value to the 1 PMC fee today. Thinking about this some more, like you said a page or two back there's little incentive to throw massive hashes at this, lots of people mining from their wallet with proc=1 would be plenty to keep the blockchain moving. You would need fast diff adjustment though to avoid some yahoo throwing 10 MH/s at it for a few hrs then leaving with the diff sky high and multi hour block times till the next adjustment comes. You could also consider making it a 95% premine with a small block reward over a few months just to get it off the ground. This really is an interesting idea. Actually there are some fractional coin blocks to be had. It is more difficult than it sounds to mine them ALL up. Also, yes. The difficulty is something I'm still working out, but the current setup (should) work for a time.
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January 23, 2014, 03:08:22 PM |
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What's the setup file for?
There is a QT executable and an installer, you may chose which one you like - they both work the same way.
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January 23, 2014, 03:11:41 PM |
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Sent a TX with 5 PMC in fees....
I wonder who will get it ?
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January 23, 2014, 03:13:44 PM Last edit: January 23, 2014, 03:28:58 PM by hilgi |
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Where are the wallets? This sounds interesting, I would love some coins.
Found it. :-)
PMC 1JdoK5aNt3kMnmSCaBKTK1B6JgiZszc4hM
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January 23, 2014, 03:15:09 PM |
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Where are the wallets? This sounds interesting, I would love some coins.
Links in the first post. Right above the sample .conf file
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January 23, 2014, 03:15:16 PM |
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![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Here's my Premine Address: 15LDvMUWsVs7fiZCwBoHbQkYVnw7dUvXU1Edit: Added .conf file where needed and wallet is synching normally. All is going well!
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January 23, 2014, 03:15:53 PM |
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romawi
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January 23, 2014, 03:17:31 PM |
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my AD: 1NE28V7oAHbo71CCaGKNbqEg9F5GgFgAHa
but wallet no sync no block source available ?
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January 23, 2014, 03:18:10 PM |
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Nice idea, but what percentage of the coins are you keeping for yourself? How about reserving some (5%?) to be given to charitable organisations, if the coin ever goes mainstream?
Also, everyone should have a chance at getting coins, even latecomers. What are your plans (i.e timescale) for distribution? Days/weeks/years?
Good luck!
Keeping none, but feel free to donate back so I can have some too. -plan to distribute all of the coins within days. ASAP Downloads added, lets get this show on the road... Thanks for the quick reply. Now CPU mining from the wallet. Hopefully catch some tx fees ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) 1DaEztg1BFMkUm9ZuJoEawauNSi7dMwN3n
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January 23, 2014, 03:18:25 PM |
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my AD: 1NE28V7oAHbo71CCaGKNbqEg9F5GgFgAHa
but wallet no sync no block source available ?
include the .conf file above to your %appdata%premine folder
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January 23, 2014, 03:20:43 PM |
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I have done of course ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) but i´m still waiting
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January 23, 2014, 03:22:12 PM |
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Wallet seems to be working.
1NsRocttBM2DWX5oRXFtYQeCZin98shUBh
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January 23, 2014, 03:23:26 PM |
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Will start distributing coins very soon. Those who supported the idea early will get a bonus.
There will also be 5 PMC added as fees to every transaction.
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January 23, 2014, 03:24:38 PM |
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soo, how do we get them coins? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) 17pyWohmuPTAoKo3BxmPYamjwUvEM292fk
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January 23, 2014, 03:25:05 PM |
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Will start distributing coins very soon. Those who supported the idea early will get a bonus.
There will also be 5 PMC added as fees to every transaction.
Awesome! I like the idea of this coin more and more.
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January 23, 2014, 03:26:59 PM |
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haha mined a 5PMC tx fee ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimg21.myimg.de%2Fpemine9b925.jpg&t=665&c=VY5O-oQHPVzUqA) my address: 17UUgE95P88Hbnk9cUiSKPT1VV3nNqg7KU Outstanding!
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January 23, 2014, 03:27:09 PM |
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First Vanity Address ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) 1 PrEMineCjDhJRaafhf4wyvTYLwD6SJfq3
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January 23, 2014, 03:27:31 PM |
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What settings are being used to cpu mine? I tried to do this in a .bat file with the minerd.exe program: 1) minerd.exe -a sha256d -o http://127.0.0.1:9935 -u xx -p xx 2) minerd.exe -a sha256 -o http://127.0.0.1:9935 -u xx -p xx First, I add the "d" at the end of sha256 not sure why, but I had an old mining .bat using that for BTC and it was the only way to get the thing to start, is that how it works? Otherwise, with just -a sha256 it doesn't work. And either way, it won't connect to 127.0.0.1 it says http:// request failed --- PMC: 15LDvMUWsVs7fiZCwBoHbQkYVnw7dUvXU1
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January 23, 2014, 03:29:03 PM |
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First Vanity Address ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) 1 PrEMineCjDhJRaafhf4wyvTYLwD6SJfq3 * creditcoin_CRD is jealous!
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