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January 27, 2014, 09:34:12 PM |
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At the very least why not let the community vote and decide?
Vote? Reminds me of a quote I read on a gun forum I frequent. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch." If thats democracy then communism is a big bad bear telling the two wolves to go eat grass for lunch. See what I did there . All jokes a side, lets find a better solution. At least a vote allows everyone to have a say. Why not?
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January 27, 2014, 09:34:26 PM |
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At the very least why not let the community vote and decide?
Vote? Reminds me of a quote I read on a gun forum I frequent. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch." wtf all I've seen from you are attempts to troll and show that you're above everyone. People make this forum, not wannabe trolls with mod status Just trying to make the point that voting is a terrible way of deciding things. If you just wanna call me a troll then knock yourself out, been called worse , but at least make another thread for it. Not going to waste my time with you. You're not worth of my time. Just trying to understand who's in charge here. I see that you're not obviously, with such attitude.
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Hey, smexy. Don't waste your time. Time's precious.
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BadBear
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January 27, 2014, 09:37:04 PM |
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Are giveaways as part of an announcement-thread still allowed?
No, it promotes spam, it's detrimental to actual discussion, and brings nothing at all of value to the forum. It's never been allowed on the forum in general, they are restricted to games and rounds. Alt currencies was different because there was no games and rounds/giveaway forum. I've thought about this as well but didn't care enough to do anything about it, but since theymos did, I support it fully. Y'all need to stop spamming the forum before the whole alt currencies section gets deleted, it's getting to be more trouble than it's worth. I liked the alt currencies section once upon a time, but it's completely and utterly worthless at the moment because of all the spam. TLDR If your announcement thread has a giveaway in it, it will be locked. what about premine coin? it's all about giveaway lol They can still do giveaways, just not here.
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January 27, 2014, 09:37:31 PM |
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Are giveaways as part of an announcement-thread still allowed?
No, it promotes spam, it's detrimental to actual discussion, and brings nothing at all of value to the forum. It's never been allowed on the forum in general, they are restricted to games and rounds. Alt currencies was different because there was no games and rounds/giveaway forum. I've thought about this as well but didn't care enough to do anything about it, but since theymos did, I support it fully. Y'all need to stop spamming the forum before the whole alt currencies section gets deleted, it's getting to be more trouble than it's worth. I liked the alt currencies section once upon a time, but it's completely and utterly worthless at the moment because of all the spam. TLDR If your announcement thread has a giveaway in it, it will be locked. what about premine coin? it's all about giveaway lol They can still do giveaways, just not here. i mean a coin called "premine" PMC
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January 27, 2014, 09:40:05 PM |
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Yes, some coins created now are 100% pre-mine and are given out equally to so many people (first 1000 or whatever). It's a pretty nifty idea really, something different anyway.
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BadBear
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January 27, 2014, 09:40:33 PM |
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At the very least why not let the community vote and decide?
Vote? Reminds me of a quote I read on a gun forum I frequent. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch." If thats democracy then communism is a big bad bear telling the two wolves to go eat grass for lunch. See what I did there . All jokes a side, lets find a better solution. At least a vote allows everyone to have a say. Why not? There's a poll here. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=434671 People voting are motivated by greed though so it's kind of a useless poll. People who don't want to see giveaways don't need to do anything, it's already done, no need for them to vote. The only ones who would vote would be the ones who disagree.
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January 27, 2014, 09:42:54 PM |
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Are giveaways as part of an announcement-thread still allowed?
No, it promotes spam, it's detrimental to actual discussion, and brings nothing at all of value to the forum. It's never been allowed on the forum in general, they are restricted to games and rounds. Alt currencies was different because there was no games and rounds/giveaway forum. I've thought about this as well but didn't care enough to do anything about it, but since theymos did, I support it fully. Y'all need to stop spamming the forum before the whole alt currencies section gets deleted, it's getting to be more trouble than it's worth. I liked the alt currencies section once upon a time, but it's completely and utterly worthless at the moment because of all the spam. TLDR If your announcement thread has a giveaway in it, it will be locked. what about premine coin? it's all about giveaway lol They can still do giveaways, just not here. i mean a coin called "premine" PMC Why does it have to be a requirement to post on a forum to receive it?
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Amph
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January 27, 2014, 09:54:51 PM |
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Are giveaways as part of an announcement-thread still allowed?
No, it promotes spam, it's detrimental to actual discussion, and brings nothing at all of value to the forum. It's never been allowed on the forum in general, they are restricted to games and rounds. Alt currencies was different because there was no games and rounds/giveaway forum. I've thought about this as well but didn't care enough to do anything about it, but since theymos did, I support it fully. Y'all need to stop spamming the forum before the whole alt currencies section gets deleted, it's getting to be more trouble than it's worth. I liked the alt currencies section once upon a time, but it's completely and utterly worthless at the moment because of all the spam. TLDR If your announcement thread has a giveaway in it, it will be locked. what about premine coin? it's all about giveaway lol They can still do giveaways, just not here. i mean a coin called "premine" PMC Why does it have to be a requirement to post on a forum to receive it? because you cannot mine it, it's already 100% premined, and work around distribution between users
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January 27, 2014, 09:56:09 PM |
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What you are going to end up with is people commenting on forum posts for a coin about getting their coins from a giveaway linked to in the original post. Completely worthless posts that instead of being contained in a giveaway thread will waste space in the main coin thread.
Just make the subforum.
Alternate cryptocurrencies already got its subforums so that not being possible really can't be used an excuse anymore.
Either allow this segment of the forums to grow or delete it entirely to keep the site all about bitcoins.
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pmm123
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January 27, 2014, 10:02:17 PM |
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Stupid norm
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sitefive
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January 27, 2014, 10:02:51 PM |
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MODS sorry but this is NOT GOOD! Giveaway threads were large part of making this forum more active and promote coins
PLEASE CHANGE BACK TO HOW IT WAS!
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January 27, 2014, 10:03:04 PM |
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woah - I've loved being part of this community of coiners. But this really threw me.
I've learned alot about coins just by giveaways.
Please someone tell me where I can go for more if it's banned here.
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January 27, 2014, 10:03:40 PM |
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I'm glad you've made this decision theymos - it will vastly improve the signal to noise ratio of this forum.
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KeyserSozeMC
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January 27, 2014, 10:05:51 PM |
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At the very least why not let the community vote and decide?
Vote? Reminds me of a quote I read on a gun forum I frequent. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch." If thats democracy then communism is a big bad bear telling the two wolves to go eat grass for lunch. See what I did there . All jokes a side, lets find a better solution. At least a vote allows everyone to have a say. Why not? There's a poll here. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=434671 People voting are motivated by greed though so it's kind of a useless poll. People who don't want to see giveaways don't need to do anything, it's already done, no need for them to vote. The only ones who would vote would be the ones who disagree. I believe you voted yes.
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Hey, smexy. Don't waste your time. Time's precious.
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BadBear
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January 27, 2014, 10:15:25 PM |
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I didn't vote.
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KeyserSozeMC
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January 27, 2014, 10:18:09 PM |
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Hey, smexy. Don't waste your time. Time's precious.
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BadBear
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January 27, 2014, 10:24:59 PM |
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sitefive
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January 27, 2014, 10:32:43 PM |
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Mods are digging a grave for this forum with this move!
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kanus1113
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January 27, 2014, 10:37:33 PM |
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It doesn't make sense to me to ban Giveaway threads. If you don't like the Giveaway threads cluttering up the forum, it takes what? 30 seconds to create a sub forum?
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Eex77
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January 27, 2014, 10:43:51 PM |
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Not sure how I feel about this.
On the one hand Giveaways are good for advertising your coin while spreading the wealth around, but on the other defunct giveaways went unlocked with people constantly posting causing spam.
Wouldn't it be better to monitor and lock what can be considered dead giveaways, rather then just flat out ban them?
Its the active ones that are providing the spam. People should post their coin announcements here, to get attention and lead people to their own forums where they can have as many giveaways as they like. But that goes completely against what I've been seeing. Many of the ones that are constantly spamming the forum are month old giveaways that people keep bumping because they see it unlocked. The main issue I see is the complete lack of moderation, for instance even scams under the guise of giveaways have been left up even though numerous users have reported losing coins due to it while others found trojans in the fake wallet they were distributing. This brings up the point that who knows where people will send people looking for free coins. Most forums require some kind of account leading to the potential of passwords and the such being stolen. Users are also to blame for this as well. We have to many people simply posting in giveaway threads nonstop even if they were no longer giving out coins. The main question is why would you simply blanket-ban everything instead of doing something that will probably require a lot less work in the long run ie make a giveaway subforum just as we have an announcement subforum? (Also in reality you have just created more spam with people who will make countless threads about getting giveaways back)
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