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June 01, 2018, 03:34:31 PM |
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Good day! I made a mistake in writing the post on the English line, in reply to the guy on the situation with bitcoin, I pointed out the data from Coindesk resource, forgetting to leave a link to the original. In total I have written two messages in English for the entire time of their existence and found an error in them. from my 1200 posts, I always pointed out the resource, I did not steal any posts and did not spam. Yes you are right, I made a mistake, but who is not mistaken? Is it worth insulting a person with a ban if he was mistaken? I realized the lesson, and my posts can be checked and they speak for themselves, I pointed out the sources. Forgive me, no one is perfect, but I understood the lesson! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg38383563#msg38383563
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June 01, 2018, 03:55:20 PM |
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Good day! I made a mistake in writing the post on the English line, in reply to the guy on the situation with bitcoin, I pointed out the data from Coindesk resource, forgetting to leave a link to the original. In total I have written two messages in English for the entire time of their existence and found an error in them. from my 1200 posts, I always pointed out the resource, I did not steal any posts and did not spam. Yes you are right, I made a mistake, but who is not mistaken? Is it worth insulting a person with a ban if he was mistaken? I realized the lesson, and my posts can be checked and they speak for themselves, I pointed out the sources. Forgive me, no one is perfect, but I understood the lesson! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg38383563#msg38383563 it's plagiarism.
I do not see if you have a chance left to get back the account. You are going to waste your time. Since you are banned in your original account, so legally you are breaking the rules creating this account too. 25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.[e]
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Be happy be at peace. Looking forward to BTC at $1M
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June 01, 2018, 04:10:21 PM |
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I can not appeal from my account, it is blocked on suspicion of plagiarism. If you look at the situation, you will understand that this is naïve. Everyone is mistaken, and one mistake for 1200 posts, this is not a ban on always.
"One mistake for 1200 posts"? Did you "forget" to source your last post aswell? BTC will likely find acceptance below the immediate support seen at $7,188 (78.6 percent Fibonacci retracement seen in the daily chart) and drop to the $7,000 mark in the next 24 hours. By then, the RSI in the hourly and 4-hour chart will likely have dropped below 30.00, indicating oversold conditions, meaning BTC may defend the psychological support level of $7,000. On the higher side, only a daily close above the 10-day MA, currently seen at $8,111, would abort the bearish view. Only a daily close above $8,644 (May 21 high) would signal a bearish-to-bullish trend change. BTCBTCBTC
Copied from: https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-faces-drop-to-7k-as-bull-defense-crumbles/Rule are rules. Your ban is permanent.
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June 01, 2018, 04:16:36 PM |
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I realized the lesson, and my posts can be checked and they speak for themselves, I pointed out the sources.
Your non-plagiarized posts say nothing about the ones that are plagiarized, and it doesn't matter if you learned your lesson. You have to take the consequences of your actions, and you know what those are. Take a look in Meta and you'll see many people saying the same thing you just said, that you made a mistake (lie), that you're sorry (that you got caught), that you won't do it again (lie), and to give you a second chance (not happening). Pay special attention to the number of those threads that were resolved in favor of the plagiarizer. It's ZERO. Nice catch on the copy/paste job, whoever caught it. Justice is served.
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June 01, 2018, 04:29:51 PM |
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Guys, you look at the meaning of the word plagiarism! And think about how a person who does not know the language can write a post. Yes, I made a mistake without indicating the source, but that's it, my mistake is over. And it is not necessary to tell here that you are all exemplary and have not been wrong. Plagiarism is not worth my pull, I'm not a jerk to you.
pla·gia·rism ˈplājəˌrizəm/ noun: the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own. That's exactly what you did. It doesn't matter if you only did because you wanted to write an english post without knowing the language. This is not an excuse. You didn't forget to include a source. You deliberately tried to pass the post as yours (at least twice). YOU DID. YOU BROKE THE RULES. YOU WILL NOT GET UNBANNED. End of the story.
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actmyname
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June 01, 2018, 04:36:58 PM |
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How can I issue a post for my own, without knowing this language, did you think about it? This is absurd. How can I give out for my written in another language? Or you do not have enough knowledge of other languages to make sure that I do not have plagiarism in posts? What relevance does knowledge of the language impart upon the consequences of rules? If you plagiarize in English, French, Klingon or Dothraki it doesn't matter since the intent is the same. Without sourcing the work, you're conveying that the ideas are your own. The language doesn't affect that.
If you don't know enough English then perhaps the best thing to do is to not attempt to write it? Learn it before you start jumping into threads, maybe
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June 01, 2018, 04:57:39 PM |
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You are absolutely right. So I asked for forgiveness for the mistake, and pointed out that in the English branch I will no longer be. I'm not so sure you understand. Plagiarism is a serious offence worldwide and a simple apology doesn't exactly acquit you of what you've done. Not only is this in the rules but I believe it's commonly taught internationally that it's a bad thing. (feel free to correct me on this) Even if it's not explicitly explained, some minor critical thinking would lead you to believe that it's at best partially immoral. After all, if you put in time and effort into a product and someone copies it, do you think that deserves a non-negative response?
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June 01, 2018, 05:25:15 PM |
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Since you are banned in your original account, so legally you are breaking the rules creating this account too. 25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.[e] Side note, it's not as long as you stick in Meta.
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actmyname
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June 01, 2018, 05:33:13 PM |
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Side note, it's not as long as you stick in Meta.* *the Meta posts must be in a thread about your ban. It must be limited to discussion only about your ban, thus you can't participate in any other Meta discussions. The exact quote: 25. If you get banned (temporary or permanently) and create a new account to continue posting / sending PMs, it's considered ban evasion. The only exception is creating a thread in Meta about your ban.
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June 01, 2018, 05:38:04 PM |
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-snip- What's the point of having rules if you are just going to allow them to be bent when someone apologizes for their actions after the fact? Unbanning you means creating a precedent for plagiarism, to which then every banned person will henceforth cite... and then there's really no point for the rule to be there anymore.
Making an error without specifying the original source because of haste Haste?
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June 01, 2018, 06:30:00 PM |
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Good day! I made a mistake in writing the post on the English line, in reply to the guy on the situation with bitcoin, I pointed out the data from Coindesk resource, forgetting to leave a link to the original. In total I have written two messages in English for the entire time of their existence and found an error in them. from my 1200 posts, I always pointed out the resource, I did not steal any posts and did not spam. Yes you are right, I made a mistake, but who is not mistaken? Is it worth insulting a person with a ban if he was mistaken? I realized the lesson, and my posts can be checked and they speak for themselves, I pointed out the sources. Forgive me, no one is perfect, but I understood the lesson! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg38383563#msg38383563The guy forgot to mention the source and got a ban, lol. It's funny, after all!
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June 01, 2018, 06:43:15 PM |
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Nice catch on the copy/paste job, whoever caught it. Thanks And think about how a person who does not know the language can write a post. There are hundreds of languages I don't speak. That's totally fine, as long as I don't try to join a conversation. It's not about one person making one (two ) mistakes. It's about thousands of accounts doing this on a massive scale! Many of them never get caught, and some do. Plagiarism lowers the quality of this forum. Pay special attention to the number of those threads that were resolved in favor of the plagiarizer. It's ZERO. As far as I know, it's ONE. If it ever becomes TWO, I think this guy has a better chance after massive community support.
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taki183
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June 01, 2018, 07:20:17 PM |
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Eternal ban for one mistake? are you joking? Guys, do you want to say that none of you made any mistakes for the thousands of messages that were published? I do not believe in this even before the gun Give the second chance to ihnattm
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June 01, 2018, 07:27:07 PM |
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Eternal ban for one mistake? are you joking? Guys, do you want to say that none of you made any mistakes for the thousands of messages that were published? I do not believe in this even before the gun Give the second chance to ihnattm If you unban ihnattm you also have to unban the other hundreds of people who have plagiarized posts. And fuck yeah, these are the rules. Considering the fact that hundreds of thousands of members are still around who haven't been banned for plagiarism, I don't think that many have copied and pasted posts.
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taki183
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June 01, 2018, 07:35:48 PM |
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Eternal ban for one mistake? are you joking? Guys, do you want to say that none of you made any mistakes for the thousands of messages that were published? I do not believe in this even before the gun Give the second chance to ihnattm If you unban ihnattm you also have to unban the other hundreds of people who have plagiarized posts. And fuck yeah, these are the rules. Considering the fact that hundreds of thousands of members are still around who haven't been banned for plagiarism, I don't think that many have copied and pasted posts. Well, I'm not against the rules, but I think that in this case the penalties should not be so strict
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June 01, 2018, 07:36:29 PM |
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Well, I'm not against the rules, but I think that in this case the penalties should not be so strict
Why? Edit: just outta curiosity, did you ask your friends to come here defend you? what's up with all those users with posts in the russian board coming here so suddenly?
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June 01, 2018, 07:38:41 PM |
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Plagiarism is a glaring mistake, but people always make mistakes. I'm surprised at such fairness but I think the most important thing is that a person recognizes his mistake and ask people to forgive him. Give him the second chance. Thank you for your time.
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June 01, 2018, 07:40:47 PM |
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Horror, because forgot to mention the source, for this ban ? 1200 messages, eternal ban because of one mistake it's like something too much I think that after all, the guy deserves a chance. Everyone is mistaken.
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actmyname
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June 01, 2018, 07:41:54 PM |
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Plagiarism is a glaring mistake, but people always make mistakes. I'm surprised at such fairness but I think the most important thing is that a person recognizes his mistake and asks people to forgive him. The mistake should have been recognized when the user previewed their post (or looked at it afterward). If you're worried about "haste" and are posting too quickly/too much to even give it a look-over then you're also spamming. The punishment is warranted. Surely, we don't post on the forum without looking over what we type, right? 1200 messages, eternal ban because of one mistake it's like something too much Plenty of users with higher post counts have been banned.
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June 01, 2018, 07:42:23 PM |
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Why do not you want to make the system of 3 penalties? If a person is banned and he values his account, he could have paid some amount in the BTC in fund forum. The first time is not big penalty, the second time is the big penalty, the third time is permanent ban. I think it would be so fair.
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