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June 02, 2018, 06:19:48 AM
Last edit: June 22, 2018, 01:30:26 PM by kenzawak
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I'm asking the mods for their help here.
The French community is getting sick of all those guys taking advantage of the fact that we don't have a mod in our section. They keep doing horrible translations of ann and bounty threads, using Google Translate. Most of what they write makes no sense at all. It's just easy money for them. It's not good for us, it's not good for the projects and it's not good for the real translators who find it hard enough to get a job. And in the end, the whole french community sees its reputation tarnished by these assholes.

A few of us have decided to take care of the problem but this is getting out of control. We can't contact all the BMs, hoping they will listen to what we have to say and fire those guys.

So, we're gonna list some of those frauds, hoping some of you (hopefully DTs) will tag them as well.


List of fake French translators (approved by the French community) :


     NAME    
     PROOF      
     TAGGED BY DT      
daoudhichem
Yes
Grandjosh
Yes
olega288
Yes
falsieght
Yes
Rggadi
Yes
jackkarwella
Yes
tsnecati
Yes
cciiaa
Yes
birdie_ale
Yes
CryptoLuck07
Yes
ciupidos
Yes
techte7
yes
BitProNews
Yes


All you gotta do is check their trust feedbacks and if you have any notion in French, some of their previous posts (works) .

THIS TOPIC IS NOW LOCKED.
A SIMILAR THREAD HAS BEEN POSTED HERE : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4498551
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June 02, 2018, 06:31:58 AM
Last edit: June 02, 2018, 03:47:57 PM by JohnUser
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They don't care in meta, why would they care about it here ?

You really want to open one thread for every bounty cheater in french translation ?

We will spam this section if we do so, but why not, maybe one day they will hear us.
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June 02, 2018, 06:47:10 AM
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Second one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1189795

Third one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1834962
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June 02, 2018, 12:20:03 PM
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This is not a proof.

Here is how it happen : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2041176.0

You will need many many proof and time for every cheaters before a DT tag him/her. All what we need is a moderator.
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June 02, 2018, 12:43:38 PM
Last edit: June 02, 2018, 04:12:51 PM by kenzawak
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I understand that not many of you feel concerned by this situation but since the new merit system, lots of us want cheaters to be exposed... and this is what these guys are.
They take advantage of the situation as there is no mod in the French section and the BMs can't check every dam translation.
It's not only about us French guys complaining (once again) , it's about the whole community.

If you ask me, this is on the same level as account farming and worse than spamming for signature campaigns. They're taking money from others (the real translators, the projects they work for...) without any effort.

Us French guys giving them red trust is clearly not enough as we are not DTs... their accounts need to be rendered useless.
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June 02, 2018, 01:39:46 PM
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The French community is getting sick of all those guys taking advantage of the fact that we don't have a mod in our section.
Report topics to moderator and write this in comments: 27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed or report them directly to kcud_dab.

Us French guys giving them red trust is clearly not enough as we are not DTs... their accounts need to be rendered useless.
I don't speak your language so I can't tell the difference between google translation and real translation, sorry m8.
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June 02, 2018, 01:45:27 PM
Last edit: June 02, 2018, 01:57:26 PM by kenzawak
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Let's start with this one : daoudhichem
Here is one of his translations : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3808739.0
And a picture he was supposed to translate :



Which one is it ? MRN token or MNR ?
"convertation" is not a word, at least not a French one !
"populaires" is used as an adjective, there should be a noun before it ! In English, it would be like saying "as well as the popular"...ok but the popular what ?

And the rest is clear use of a translating tool, it makes no sense at all.
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June 02, 2018, 01:46:10 PM
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This is not a proof.

Here is how it happen : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2041176.0

You will need many many proof and time for every cheaters before a DT tag him/her. All what we need is a moderator.

Of course, you are right John (I never went through the whole thread though  Cheesy). In this case, it wasn't much about them especially, but more to show how many of them we are dealing with !

More will come...
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June 02, 2018, 01:50:35 PM
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The French community is getting sick of all those guys taking advantage of the fact that we don't have a mod in our section.
Report topics to moderator and write this in comments: 27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed or report them directly to kcud_dab.


We're doing that but kcud_dab hasn't been moderating anything for months now !

We're also contacting the BMs here and even on telegram but we can't do it for all of them. Plus it's sometimes "too little too late" as they already have the job... and I'm not talking about the BMs who don't really care at all.

If their accounts could get tagged once and for all, it would make things much easier.
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June 02, 2018, 03:43:55 PM
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The French community is getting sick of all those guys taking advantage of the fact that we don't have a mod in our section.
Report topics to moderator and write this in comments: 27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed or report them directly to kcud_dab.

That's a joke, right ?

We don't have any moderator since 1 year!
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June 02, 2018, 04:11:51 PM
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One more name : falsieght

This one not only does terrible french translations, he also does them in Italian, Polish, Russian, Spanish, German... I mean, seriously ?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1802260;sa=showPosts

I can't be sure 100% about the other translations but the French ones are shit !
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June 02, 2018, 04:23:40 PM
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(..)
List of fake French translators (approved by the French community) :
daoudhichem
Grandjosh
olega288
falsieght

All you gotta do is check their trust feedbacks and if you have any notion in French, some of their previous posts (works) .

This part is enough for BMs, no ? (I didn't saw your edit)

Good idea, your list will grow really fast. If one of this bounty cheater is not happy with our red trust then you/we will provide more proof into this thread.
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June 02, 2018, 05:57:31 PM
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Another one : Rggadi

I'll admit this one does speak French (that doesn't mean it's his native language because it clearly isn't)... but like a 12 year old would.
His grammar skills are terrible, he translates only half of the work (almost all pictures are still in English) . But the worst part is he applies for every translation possible, stealing the work from real translators.

We exposed him in a French thread, he was so ridiculous.


14 heures
...
dans un éland ... images jamais éditeres
...
Regarderz les membres
...
il veut être payer



Some of his translations :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3256324.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3403826.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3992948.0
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June 02, 2018, 05:59:31 PM
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Thank you "suchmoon" and "DarkStar_" for your help, it's greatly appreciated.
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June 02, 2018, 06:38:12 PM
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Low quality automated translations in french :

- tsnecati : http://archive.is/LPVmf

- cciiaa : https://archive.is/4qA75

- jackkarwella : https://archive.is/0nSFN
https://archive.is/QotqQ
https://archive.is/XX36X
https://archive.is/dDKKs
https://archive.is/xRLmw
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June 02, 2018, 06:58:54 PM
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lol nice ones !
Added to the list.
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June 03, 2018, 09:52:46 AM
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Another one who is top notch : birdie_ale

Example of a previous work : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4398050.0

It's a mix between French ,Italian and I believe Romanian.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4393794.msg39140827#msg39140827
Romanian and Italian translation reserved
Also doesn't bother modifying images.I guess it takes too long writing the whole text in Google Translate. It's much faster to do a copy and paste.

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Ces nœuds constituent le backbone
Wtf Huh Backbone is not a French word but I guess he didn't find any matching word in Google Translate.

EDIT :just found out he also does turkish translations lol .
french and turkish translations done:
french:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4350448.new#new

turkish:
 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4350365
reward address: Lv5mtu7S42jKtr1fL3fSXz1neE2YntEPSq
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June 03, 2018, 11:03:24 AM
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CryptoLuck07 : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1345882

- https://archive.is/h3S5k
- https://archive.is/PJMvS
- https://archive.is/Ja5nm
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June 03, 2018, 11:38:02 AM
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Thank you for this topic. Maybe you can add proof link at the end (this way):


     NAME    
     PROOF      
     TAGGED BY DT      
daoudhichem
Yes
Grandjosh
Yes
olega288
Yes
falsieght
Yes
Rggadi
No
jackkarwella
Yes
tsnecati
Yes
cciiaa
No
birdie_ale
No

I created a google spreadsheet to easily add a new person: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CbyazI7ibjprduS57IOuKZfriosdiNr_2_x9lcA1jHU/edit#gid=350164712 (use the first page to enter the information. The second page is the model, in case someone deletes the cells in the first page, which is publicly accessible)

(I took the table model from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1727100.msg17283187#msg17283187)
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June 03, 2018, 12:05:56 PM
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Another one who thinks he can pull off translations in many languages : German, French, Croatian, Polish, Italian...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1345882;sa=showPosts

Also doesn't translate pictures, it takes too long :
https://archive.is/Ja5nm

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Ils seront 2 rondes préventes
Huh Round doesn't translate into "rondes" in French, sorry.
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La deuxième générosité sera l'invitation à la discorde
  This one is hilarious. It could translate into "the second generosity will be the invite to the discord". I like how he added an "e" to discord because he thinks it's a "female" word. Oh and who says "the discord" ? I guess the same people who say "the facebook" lol.
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