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December 29, 2019, 11:42:54 PM
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Bumpity bop people! We have a new addition to the list: SFR10!

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We have a new campaign manager but trusted member of the forum Coolcryptovator he manages few signature campaigns in last month, I think you can add them on your list. His ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5201844.0

Also on your list, you have listed a few managers, who have not done the job for a long time. One or two campaigns in the past maybe are not enough to be called campaign managers.

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January 02, 2020, 08:36:19 PM
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We have a new campaign manager but trusted member of the forum Coolcryptovator he manages few signature campaigns in last month, I think you can add them on your list. His ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5201844.0
Oh, Coolcryptovator, great that he's managing campaigns now. But, I am not gonna add him quite yet, I'll wait and see how his whole thing goes, I'll monitor him for a while, and add him maybe in a couple months.

Also on your list, you have listed a few managers, who have not done the job for a long time. One or two campaigns in the past maybe are not enough to be called campaign managers.
Okay, so the reason why I listed a few managers was not just because of the number of campaigns they managed, its more about how they managed, and how they handled rough scenarios. A person might manage 100 campaigns but manage it terribly, where his post counting could go wrong, delay payments unnecessarily etc. Doesn't make him a good manager, does it?

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We have a new campaign manager but trusted member of the forum Coolcryptovator he manages few signature campaigns in last month, I think you can add them on your list. His ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5201844.0
Oh, Coolcryptovator, great that he's managing campaigns now. But, I am not gonna add him quite yet, I'll wait and see how his whole thing goes, I'll monitor him for a while, and add him maybe in a couple months.


He has managed a few 1 week campaigns with minimum participants mostly. He is doing well to start so far.
Also on your list, you have listed a few managers, who have not done the job for a long time. One or two campaigns in the past maybe are not enough to be called campaign managers.
Okay, so the reason why I listed a few managers was not just because of the number of campaigns they managed, its more about how they managed, and how they handled rough scenarios. A person might manage 100 campaigns but manage it terribly, where his post counting could go wrong, delay payments unnecessarily etc. Doesn't make him a good manager, does it?

Sometimes delayed payments are not always a managers issue, it could be due to the company delaying payments. Not usually the case as most of us get the payment up front normally, but myself for example, Bitsler owner went on vacation and I delayed a payment a few weeks back waiting for them to send the pay for the week.

Sometimes things happen. Long as it is not an abnormal delay, like a manager disappeared or something like that, then this scenario usually won't happen nor will it harm anyone's rep.


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January 02, 2020, 09:13:46 PM
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Also on your list, you have listed a few managers, who have not done the job for a long time. One or two campaigns in the past maybe are not enough to be called campaign managers.

I think it should depend on whether they're still available or not. Maybe a PM to some of the less-active ones every once in a while to see if they're still actively looking for work would sort any confusion out. izanagi doesn't seem to be that active any more and hasn't posted much in the last few months and I haven't run a campaign in a while but I would still happily do so and you can be rest assured I'd do a decent job. Nobody ever really seems to contact me regarding running them other than potentially shady companies or dime-a-dozen ICO and shitcoins and that's not something I'm going to stake my rep on but I'd be happy to work with any respectable companies or one where my rep isn't at stake.

Okay, so the reason why I listed a few managers was not just because of the number of campaigns they managed, its more about how they managed, and how they handled rough scenarios. A person might manage 100 campaigns but manage it terribly, where his post counting could go wrong, delay payments unnecessarily etc. Doesn't make him a good manager, does it?

Yeah. It's more about quality than quantity. I also don't think it's a good idea having one or two people managing multiple campaigns at the same time and willing to take on even more at any time as that's what leads to shoddily run campaigns and the forum certainty notices it in the rise of spam.

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He has managed a few 1 week campaigns with minimum participants mostly. He is doing well to start so far.
I did notice that, he has done good job so far, although I feel like he's still somewhat new to this scene, so I am just a tad-bit hesitant, temporarily. I will add him soon, if he keeps up his amazing etiquette.

Sometimes delayed payments are not always a managers issue, it could be due to the company delaying payments. Not usually the case as most of us get the payment up front normally, but myself for example, Bitsler owner went on vacation and I delayed a payment a few weeks back waiting for them to send the pay for the week.

Sometimes things happen. Long as it is not an abnormal delay, like a manager disappeared or something like that, then this scenario usually won't happen nor will it harm anyone's rep.
Absolutely, managers are still humans, and while many idiots fail to understand that, sometimes, somethings are inevitable, and even the most perfect of managers get stuck in places. But that is okay, this thread serves as a place where newcomers can read, and understand who they are getting in business with, and to also give them some sort of confidence that they are not putting their money in the wrong hands.

I think it should depend on whether they're still available or not. Maybe a PM to some of the less-active ones every once in a while to see if they're still actively looking for work would sort any confusion out. izanagi doesn't seem to be that active any more and hasn't posted much in the last few months and I haven't run a campaign in a while but I would still happily do so and you can be rest assured I'd do a decent job. Nobody ever really seems to contact me regarding running them other than potentially shady companies or dime-a-dozen ICO and shitcoins and that's not something I'm going to stake my rep on but I'd be happy to work with any respectable companies or one where my rep isn't at stake.
I agree to your first point, checking up on some managers will ease out the tension among others, and will also create room for up and coming managers like coolcryptovator et al. I feel like sig campaigns are somewhat dying, people are losing interests, as ICOs are dying, and investing ratios have gone far down the sink. The market itself has been quite dead, and thus, less signature campaigns, and less hunting for managers. People feel like they can just bounty campaign off their whole ICO and gain 'ttraction, and they do.

Yeah. It's more about quality than quantity. I also don't think it's a good idea having one or two people managing multiple campaigns at the same time and willing to take on even more at any time as that's what leads to shoddily run campaigns and the forum certainty notices it in the rise of spam.
Oh multiple people managing a single campaign will only cause a fucking shitshow. Most people who manage a lot of campaigns just auto count posts, and pay them for the posts, and get it done with. Obviously there are exceptions like Yahoo etc.

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I think it should depend on whether they're still available or not. Maybe a PM to some of the less-active ones every once in a while to see if they're still actively looking for work would sort any confusion out. izanagi doesn't seem to be that active any more and hasn't posted much in the last few months and I haven't run a campaign in a while but I would still happily do so and you can be rest assured I'd do a decent job. Nobody ever really seems to contact me regarding running them other than potentially shady companies or dime-a-dozen ICO and shitcoins and that's not something I'm going to stake my rep on but I'd be happy to work with any respectable companies or one where my rep isn't at stake.
I agree to your first point, checking up on some managers will ease out the tension among others, and will also create room for up and coming managers like coolcryptovator et al.

New managers need to earn their rep I think much like anyone does here before they're entrusted with things, but if a manager has demonstrated that they can successfully run a few campaigns with minimal to no spam and that's identified by the community then I think they should be considered for inclusion. I think it would be unfair for new people not to be added but at the same time I don't think anyone should be put on it much like a list of escrows. People earn their reputations by good work over time but it quickly becomes clear who is reputable for what.

I feel like sig campaigns are somewhat dying, people are losing interests, as ICOs are dying, and investing ratios have gone far down the sink. The market itself has been quite dead, and thus, less signature campaigns, and less hunting for managers. People feel like they can just bounty campaign off their whole ICO and gain 'ttraction, and they do.

Well they're certainly not as plentiful as they used to be. They'll come and go though, but as long as bitcoin/crypto is here then there will be new companies popping up and this is still a great way to advertise.

Yeah. It's more about quality than quantity. I also don't think it's a good idea having one or two people managing multiple campaigns at the same time and willing to take on even more at any time as that's what leads to shoddily run campaigns and the forum certainty notices it in the rise of spam.
Oh multiple people managing a single campaign will only cause a fucking shitshow. Most people who manage a lot of campaigns just auto count posts, and pay them for the posts, and get it done with. Obviously there are exceptions like Yahoo etc.

I meant one person running multiple campaigns and taking on more than they can handle. One person probably can't effectively run multiple campaigns with hundreds if not thousands of users on and I think that just leads to sloppyness.

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I did notice that, he has done good job so far, although I feel like he's still somewhat new to this scene, so I am just a tad-bit hesitant, temporarily. I will add him soon, if he keeps up his amazing etiquette.
He completed two campaigns in a month's time, everything went smoothly, I favor if he was added to your list, and removed a few people who are no longer working here. izanagi narukami and notaek don't seem to be managing operations on any other campaigns for a long time

Yeah. It's more about quality than quantity. I also don't think it's a good idea having one or two people managing multiple campaigns at the same time and willing to take on even more at any time as that's what leads to shoddily run campaigns and the forum certainty notices it in the rise of spam.

I agree with your thoughts, but obviously no few manager rejects another campaign, even if they are managing multiple campaigns at the same time, if someone needs them, they still accept a new campaign. This is also an aspect to assess a manager's ability.


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January 04, 2020, 05:40:22 AM
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I agree with your thoughts, but obviously no manager rejects another campaign, even if they are managing multiple campaigns at the same time, if someone needs them, they still accept a new campaign. This is also an aspect to assess a manager's ability.
I've declined management job offers in the past simply because of the fact that I couldn't find enough quality from users that were applying on another campaign [with decent pay rate] that I was managing at the time...
  • Having said that, each manager identifies quality/spam in a slightly different way [own standards] so it's better to give other managers the opportunity instead of accepting a job offer and rejecting the applicants [as hilariousetc mentioned, quality over quantity].

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New managers need to earn their rep I think much like anyone does here before they're entrusted with things, but if a manager has demonstrated that they can successfully run a few campaigns with minimal to no spam and that's identified by the community then I think they should be considered for inclusion. I think it would be unfair for new people not to be added but at the same time I don't think anyone should be put on it much like a list of escrows. People earn their reputations by good work over time but it quickly becomes clear who is reputable for what.
Along side this, I also feel like a new upandcoming manager has more chances of making rookie mistakes, like sending incorrect payments to the participants, and many others that other managers have made in the past. The problem isn't with the mistake itself, everyone makes mistakes, its more about how a manager handles a situation. Like, I remember this one instance specifically, where yahoo was managing this campaign, and he was a little late(I believe it was a matter of few hours), where yahoo was out with his IRL friends, and had got drunk which lead to the delay in payments, and people started causing so much drama and bs, up until yahoo came online and solved the whole mess and explained it.

Well they're certainly not as plentiful as they used to be. They'll come and go though, but as long as bitcoin/crypto is here then there will be new companies popping up and this is still a great way to advertise.
Definitely, maybe the future holds more signature campaigns for the forum. Maybe the new forum will show up, who knows.

I meant one person running multiple campaigns and taking on more than they can handle. One person probably can't effectively run multiple campaigns with hundreds if not thousands of users on and I think that just leads to sloppyness.
Touché. And that is actually what I meant as well, but I ended up typing it wrong, my apologies.


He completed two campaigns in a month's time, everything went smoothly, I favor if he was added to your list, and removed a few people who are no longer working here. izanagi narukami and notaek don't seem to be managing operations on any other campaigns for a long time
I don't care if a manager hasn't managed in a while, I care about how good a manager is. I have nothing against coolcryptovator, like I said, I will add him in the near future. 

I agree with your thoughts, but obviously no few manager rejects another campaign, even if they are managing multiple campaigns at the same time, if someone needs them, they still accept a new campaign. This is also an aspect to assess a manager's ability.
No, that's not a manager. That's a pimp.

Also read what SFR10 said above.


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January 08, 2020, 03:11:04 PM
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He has managed a few 1 week campaigns with minimum participants mostly. He is doing well to start so far.
Thanks for your kind word, actually I managed total 4 signature campaign till now. One has ran for a month, one has ran for two weeks, and one is running 5th weeks and I am holding fund for more one week. So only one campaign I had ran for one week only. I left their campaign due to some reason, actually they need too much click like PTC sites. But I can't give them false expectations, signature campaign doesn't work like they expect. Gamblers are not stupid nowadays, so they will never jump after just because of signature campaign. So I decide to leave and asked them for find some other way if they need instant clicks.


However, thread creator is pugman and appreciate his decision about updates his list. Of course I am new on that field and still I am learning from other experienced managers. I am quite strict about payments and spam. Always tried to prevent spammers from my campaign (I might wrong since I am human). I had not run any campaign if I were not holding payments. Because I believe its quite important to keep safe myself and also participants could payments on time.

I have been working against scammers & spammer from the beginning, so I will continue it as much as possible. No matter either I am campaign manager or not. I am more than 5000+ good report and still reporting snappers.

Thanks everyone for suggest my name. Have a great day.

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He has managed a few 1 week campaigns with minimum participants mostly. He is doing well to start so far.
But I can't give them false expectations, signature campaign doesn't work like they expect.

The bolded statement is exactly the way to be with all companies. Always tell them exactly what they can expect. For example, I have companies ask how many investors I can promise them or how many clicks they will get? The answer is 0 to all.

A manager cannot promise investors for an ICO, or clicks to your website period. What can be promised is xxx amount of posts per week dependent on the number of people in a campaign, and that you will remove shit posters and try to keep the best posters in the campaign each week.



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January 09, 2020, 02:40:28 PM
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Also on your list, you have listed a few managers, who have not done the job for a long time. One or two campaigns in the past maybe are not enough to be called campaign managers.
Okay, so the reason why I listed a few managers was not just because of the number of campaigns they managed, its more about how they managed, and how they handled rough scenarios. A person might manage 100 campaigns but manage it terribly, where his post counting could go wrong, delay payments unnecessarily etc. Doesn't make him a good manager, does it?

Managing more different campaign means more experience and giving us a clearer picture of how they doing his work. One thing is when someone handles a few campaigns where everything going went and smoothly, where campaign owners are reasonable and short participants list. this may be accidental.
I am just thinking, how much managers will accept a delicate campaign like Cryptotalk/Yobit, and end up with a better reputation than before.

I think it should depend on whether they're still available or not. Maybe a PM to some of the less-active ones every once in a while to see if they're still actively looking for work would sort any confusion out. izanagi doesn't seem to be that active any more and hasn't posted much in the last few months and I haven't run a campaign in a while but I would still happily do so and you can be rest assured I'd do a decent job. Nobody ever really seems to contact me regarding running them other than potentially shady companies or dime-a-dozen ICO and shitcoins and that's not something I'm going to stake my rep on but I'd be happy to work with any respectable companies or one where my rep isn't at stake.


many of them, I suppose, do not have enough time or do some other work. in fact, I point to that, they cannot be fully dedicated only to this job and result may affect the quality of his job.

Along side this, I also feel like a new upandcoming manager has more chances of making rookie mistakes, like sending incorrect payments to the participants, and many others that other managers have made in the past. The problem isn't with the mistake itself, everyone makes mistakes, its more about how a manager handles a situation. Like, I remember this one instance specifically, where yahoo was managing this campaign, and he was a little late(I believe it was a matter of few hours), where yahoo was out with his IRL friends, and had got drunk which lead to the delay in payments, and people started causing so much drama and bs, up until yahoo came online and solved the whole mess and explained it.

@yahoo62278 this will never be forgotten  Cheesy

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