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January 31, 2014, 03:16:10 AM
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Please see our website for all the latest details.
Members are encouraged to hang out on our IRC channel.

To use, just point your miner to stratum+tcp://stratum.mining.eligius.st:3334 (or http://gbt.mining.eligius.st:9337 for GBT) with username set to the bitcoin address you want paid.

WARNING: Generations won't show up on your Instawallet, BTC-e, or many web-based wallet balances, so make sure you use the address of a standalone client, blockchain.info, or another wallet that has been confirmed to work with generation payouts.

If the pool has problems, call 1-877-281-POOL (7665) (or, from outside the USA or Canada, call +1 818-688-POOL (7665))

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Frequently Asked Questions

  • Q. How are NMC payouts done? Are there any NMC stats?
    A. NMC payouts are done roughly once per day.  Currently there are no stats for NMC rewards, but this is on the list of things to code.

  • Q. How much is 105% NMC PPS?
    A. For every accepted share you submit to the pool you are rewarded (50/current_namecoin_difficulty)*1.05*work_difficulty NMC, where current_namecoin_difficulty is, obviously, the current namecoin block difficulty and work_difficulty is the difficulty of the work your miner is doing for Eligius (generally 4, 8, 16, 32, etc, depending on your hash rate).

  • Q. How do I set a payout address for NMC (or other configuration options)?
    A. You use the My Eligius Control Panel to set your options.  You must use a bitcoin client or wallet provider capable of signing messages with the address you use as your Eligius username.  Instructions for doing this with Bitcoin-Qt are available here






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January 31, 2014, 03:22:49 AM
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January 31, 2014, 03:33:48 AM
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Question to inaugurate the new thread: is there any way (i.e hidden API or anything) to track NMC earnings?

I have set my address in My Eligius yesterday but I didn't see anything show up in the stats or wherever. Haven't found anything in the FAQ either. Thanks!
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Question to inaugurate the new thread: is there any way (i.e hidden API or anything) to track NMC earnings?

I have set my address in My Eligius yesterday but I didn't see anything show up in the stats or wherever. Haven't found anything in the FAQ either. Thanks!

Currently not, although it is on the TODO list.  NMC payouts currently just happen roughly once per day.

(Perhaps I should do an FAQ in my reserved post above, with this being the first! Smiley

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Question to inaugurate the new thread: is there any way (i.e hidden API or anything) to track NMC earnings?

I have set my address in My Eligius yesterday but I didn't see anything show up in the stats or wherever. Haven't found anything in the FAQ either. Thanks!

As an option for periodically checking your NMC earnings without having to run a Namecoin wallet constantly, you can search for your NMC address here:

http://explorer.dot-bit.org/

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January 31, 2014, 05:21:48 AM
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I like the FAQ idea, and the reserved posts for you and Luke-Jr. That should make information dissemination easier, and maybe cut down on some of the stupid questions (don't mean those posted regarding NMC stats posted right after this thread was started - those are good). While I'm not a fan of double posting and redundant work, perhaps a short blip taken from your site regarding your payment system may be useful, since I'm sure there are those who hear about your pool, join it, and are then confused about their payouts. Just kicking ideas around, though. Might save people from constantly saying, "Go read the description on the site!" Nevertheless, I like the FAQ, since when the time comes and I have a stupid question, the answer may be right there in front of me. Wink

I meant to mention this at an earlier date, but it was when you (WK) were working you ass off resolving the problems from last weekend or whenever that was, but do you, or anyone else, know if it was a specific batch from KnC that was causing users problems on your pool? I have an October Mercury, but I run several BFL units as well. I switched the KnC over first to check out your pool and used the standard URL/Port info using BFGminer 3.4.0 that was embedded in BertMod 3.0. I never experienced any problems whatsoever. In fact, since that was my test run and it all went so well, I switched all of my miners to Eligius. At some point I went to your actual homepage, and only then saw the info about KnC miners using the other port (after 3-4 days of testing, I think). Never had an issue there, obviously. My KnC died about 9 days ago, and I should be putting it back online tomorrow, if all goes according to plan. Is there any reason why I can't, or shouldn't, run that miner on the standard 3334 port? Of course if I notice issues on my end, I'll switch, but I also ask because I don't know enough about the background that led to your efforts of setting up a separate port for KnC users. Basically, I want to be sure that if I were to set it to the standard port that I wouldn't be potentially causing issues for the pool and other miners. (See, stupid question! lol) In seriousness, I don't know, and don't want to cause any problems. I'll likely go ahead and set it to the KnC designated port, but am simply curious. If the response requires an answer as long as this post (I always write like this, so my apologies to anyone why sticks with one of my posts all the way to the end), don't waste your energy on a detailed response. I won't be offended if this goes unanswered. I can always dig through the old thread when I have an hour or two to spare. If it's an easy response, I'd be grateful to have it. Again, don't expend much energy on me, since I can instructions already given.
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January 31, 2014, 06:19:04 AM
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I'm happy to see the new thread.

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January 31, 2014, 06:31:50 AM
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Are any stats available on your shelved shares, and where they are in the shelved share queue? Raw data would probably be too much, but something like a list filled with x number of shelved shares worth y BTC from block z, and the shelved share queue depth to that point?
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January 31, 2014, 08:28:59 AM
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the patch cgminer wk developed for kncminer oct is out ?

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January 31, 2014, 08:49:05 AM
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In on the first page to say that Eligius is the most stable BTC pool I've used in the year I've been mining.  I started off on Slush's, then BTCGuild, then Eclipse, P2Pool, and even some time on GHash.io. 

I keep on coming back to Eligius as my primary pool.

Keep up the hard work guys. Smiley
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Yay the donation % works...now i can donate to the pool Smiley Thanks for all your hard work on this pool WK...And its getting greater every day!!!

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Is it too complicated to add some more shitforks for merged mining?

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January 31, 2014, 04:01:28 PM
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Is it too complicated to add some more shitforks for merged mining?

luke-jr won't support merged mining of any alt-coin, because they believe they are mostly scams/people trying to make easy money of the success of bitcoin without brigning any "new" ideas/innovation. Thus they don't want to support those systems.

They -do- support namecoins, exactly because it is a system that does bring something new/different, being not only a unit of money, but a name reservation system.



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^ This is a pretty good explanation.  Thanks.

Thank you! Cheesy And thanks for running such a great pool. And thanks for luke0jr (I guess?) for coming up with such a great payment system!

1) When I look at the payment queue I see at number 1 "2 weeks, 5 days, 20 hours and 14 minutes"
Why is the payment for the miner so late? Or do I misunderstand something?

That means that the last payment that user got was 2 weeks, 5 days, ... ago. But the user might still have been in the queue for a few minutes, if he just got over his payment the treshold.

Even though the shares themselves are rewarded most-recent-first, once a user has accumulated enough reward that he gets in the payout queue, the payment system prioritizes people who have not been payed the longest, whatever their payment amount is.
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Also, if I may ask, I have a few tiny suggestions that should be really easy to add, but would improve the stats, I believe.

1. On the home page of the stats, you put at the bottom the PPS value-per-share. But I think it is a really important value that would deserve to be put in the header alongside the pool hashrate/round luck/time... Or at least, put on userstats pages with the estimate of daily earnings.

2. Putting a link to the payout queue in the top menu, with "Home", "My eligius", etc...

3. Moving the GitHub link to the footer, or put it on the home page. (I don't believe that the GitHub is something the users will frequently go to, so it doesn't need such a proeminent place)

4. Putting a link to the configurable options in the userstats page.

5. In fact, change the "structure" of My Eligius so that clicking on "My Eligius" prompts for a user's address; inputting the address brings you directly to the userstats page, from which there would be a link to the configurable options, or to "logout"/change address. I believe it would be "cleaner", faster to navigate the site than with the intermediate "menu" page that you get once you "logged" in.

6. In the pool-wide stats page (Home), put a graph of the "historical" luck, so we know if recently, we have been increasing of decreasing the amount of shelved shares.

7. In userstats page, you put the percentage of shares rewarded, but it would be great if you could also put the "value" of the shelved share, so one knows that if he were to leave the pool NOW, he should expect to be, eventuelly, payed out that amount of BTC when the pool gets lucky. It can be calculated from the other displayed stats, but I think it is an important value.

But don't get me wrong, I love the pool! Theses are just suggestions, you do what you want.
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Also, if I may ask, I have a few tiny suggestions that should be really easy to add, but would improve the stats, I believe.

1. On the home page of the stats, you put at the bottom the PPS value-per-share. But I think it is a really important value that would deserve to be put in the header alongside the pool hashrate/round luck/time... Or at least, put on userstats pages with the estimate of daily earnings.

2. Putting a link to the payout queue in the top menu, with "Home", "My eligius", etc...

3. Moving the GitHub link to the footer, or put it on the home page. (I don't believe that the GitHub is something the users will frequently go to, so it doesn't need such a proeminent place)

4. Putting a link to the configurable options in the userstats page.

5. In fact, change the "structure" of My Eligius so that clicking on "My Eligius" prompts for a user's address; inputting the address brings you directly to the userstats page, from which there would be a link to the configurable options, or to "logout"/change address. I believe it would be "cleaner", faster to navigate the site than with the intermediate "menu" page that you get once you "logged" in.

6. In the pool-wide stats page (Home), put a graph of the "historical" luck, so we know if recently, we have been increasing of decreasing the amount of shelved shares.

7. In userstats page, you put the percentage of shares rewarded, but it would be great if you could also put the "value" of the shelved share, so one knows that if he were to leave the pool NOW, he should expect to be, eventuelly, payed out that amount of BTC when the pool gets lucky. It can be calculated from the other displayed stats, but I think it is an important value.

But don't get me wrong, I love the pool! Theses are just suggestions, you do what you want.

1. I considered this, but since CPPSRB is not actually straight PPS, prominently displaying a maximum potential PPS value would likely be confusing.  Even displaying it where it is has already caused confusion and I've considered just removing it entirely.

2. The large button seems to break the style.  The layout needs an overhaul...

3. See #2

4. There is, My Eligius

5. Maybe.  The stats are being redone and integrated into a new single site soon anyway. (spoiler)

6. Historical luck doesn't actually have any affect on future earnings or make any real sense to display in more detail than it already is (luck % for each block, variance graph), so its a next-to-useless stat IMO.  I did put the estimated earnings/variance graph on the main page already, though, to show that things even out as they should.

7. This was the case before, and people, again, just got confused thinking that the pool in some way owed them or was otherwise cheating them out of the value of the shelved shares.  Since the switch to a percentage, which is actually a much more useful stat, there has been much less confusion.

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Edit: Clarified #6

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Wow, I just noticed that the last block (0000000000000000a7d0521b7fe409c823c9cf00a964a99c59e57fa3b4d8dfc2) was one of the luckiest in pool history at 30sec... there have been a couple of those in the last few weeks. Could the increase in the asics now in circulation have anything to do with this or is it overall pool hashrate or the increased number of miners? Or is it just my noob (not very in-depth) view of the stats?

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Wow, I just noticed that the last block (0000000000000000a7d0521b7fe409c823c9cf00a964a99c59e57fa3b4d8dfc2) was one of the luckiest in pool history at 30sec... there have been a couple of those in the last few weeks. Could the increase in the asics now in circulation have anything to do with this or is it overall pool hashrate or the increased number of miners? Or is it just my noob (not very in-depth) view of the stats?

It is quite simply just luck, which varies greatly in either direction.  The fastest block ever for Eligius was block 277,885 ... which was mined 3 seconds after 277,884. Wink

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Wow, I just noticed that the last block (0000000000000000a7d0521b7fe409c823c9cf00a964a99c59e57fa3b4d8dfc2) was one of the luckiest in pool history at 30sec... there have been a couple of those in the last few weeks. Could the increase in the asics now in circulation have anything to do with this or is it overall pool hashrate or the increased number of miners? Or is it just my noob (not very in-depth) view of the stats?

It is quite simply just luck, which varies greatly in either direction.  The fastest block ever for Eligius was block 277,885 ... which was mined 3 seconds after 277,884. Wink

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Yeah I noticed that and that block was mined on: 2013-12-31 09:01:22. Almost all of the "quickest" blocks from that one to the one just now were mined in the last 4 months or so... since the rise of the asics... it could also just be pure luck...

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