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November 04, 2015, 01:36:24 PM
Last edit: November 04, 2015, 04:46:39 PM by CoinHoarder
 #121

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I have watched you post so much stupid shit around here it's not even funny.
You are constantly *trying (and failing) to make pitiful excuses for scammy bullshit.
give it up Catp. Failtrain
Bad is bad ..it's can't be justified

you know fuck all sweet heart.

and your comment is a load of bullshit.. where do i start showing you how everything you said is wrong ?

My point was valid. There is a right way to do IPOs and a wrong way to do IPOs (and a right/wrong way to follow through afterwards), just as there is a right way to launch a PoW coin and a wrong way to launch a PoW coin. You can't have your cake and eat it too, you shouldn't set a double standard. If all IPOs are scams because some IPOs are/were scams, then all PoW coins are scams because some PoW coins are/were scams. PoW coins should therefore be banned from this web site for the greater good according to 50% of voters.
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November 04, 2015, 05:57:04 PM
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ipos should have a protocol to follow if they are allowed.

should be transparent, multisigs hold the funds that are released in accordance with development planned costs which are fully transparent too.

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November 04, 2015, 06:03:12 PM
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I have watched you post so much stupid shit around here it's not even funny.
You are constantly *trying (and failing) to make pitiful excuses for scammy bullshit.
give it up Catp. Failtrain
Bad is bad ..it's can't be justified

you know fuck all sweet heart.

and your comment is a load of bullshit.. where do i start showing you how everything you said is wrong ?

My point was valid. There is a right way to do IPOs and a wrong way to do IPOs (and a right/wrong way to follow through afterwards), just as there is a right way to launch a PoW coin and a wrong way to launch a PoW coin. You can't have your cake and eat it too, you shouldn't set a double standard. If all IPOs are scams because some IPOs are/were scams, then all PoW coins are scams because some PoW coins are/were scams. PoW coins should therefore be banned from this web site for the greater good according to 50% of voters.

that is like saying there is a right way to run a ponzi scheme and a wrong way..

like i said you keep trying.. and failing LOL

nice try though Catp. Failtrain ahahha

next your going to try and justify shit coins by telling us all they attract *new users  Roll Eyes

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No where does it say that if IPO's are bad that automatically makes POW coins good.
You completely and utterly missed the point sweet heart.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POW COINS

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November 04, 2015, 06:36:03 PM
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garbage deleted

I have watched you post so much stupid shit around here it's not even funny.
You are constantly *trying (and failing) to make pitiful excuses for scammy bullshit.
give it up Catp. Failtrain
Bad is bad ..it's can't be justified

you know fuck all sweet heart.

and your comment is a load of bullshit.. where do i start showing you how everything you said is wrong ?

My point was valid. There is a right way to do IPOs and a wrong way to do IPOs (and a right/wrong way to follow through afterwards), just as there is a right way to launch a PoW coin and a wrong way to launch a PoW coin. You can't have your cake and eat it too, you shouldn't set a double standard. If all IPOs are scams because some IPOs are/were scams, then all PoW coins are scams because some PoW coins are/were scams. PoW coins should therefore be banned from this web site for the greater good according to 50% of voters.

that is like saying there is a right way to run a ponzi scheme and a wrong way..

like i said you keep trying.. and failing LOL

nice try though Catp. Failtrain ahahha

next your going to try and justify shit coins by telling us all they attract *new users  Roll Eyes

PS:
No where does it say that if IPO's are bad that automatically makes POW coins good.
You completely and utterly missed the point sweet heart.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POW COINS

Explain to me your blanket reasoning as to why all IPOs are scams, and using the same reasoning I will ascertain that all PoW coins are scams using the same logic. All crypto currencies are scams using your flawed logic and stereotyping. Unless of course you judge PoW coins v IPO coins using a double standard. In that case I have nothing further to say to you on this topic. You would never do that to support your own agenda, would you? Wink
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November 04, 2015, 08:27:32 PM
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No one is forced to invest in ico's, so why should they banned. if someone invest into a coin ico and loses money, then it is its own fault.

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November 04, 2015, 09:58:59 PM
 #126

No one is forced to invest in ico's, so why should they banned. if someone invest into a coin ico and loses money, then it is its own fault.

Is that what Berni Madoff said in court ?
Well then let's free him from jail and arrest the people he scammed !

ahh good old fashion Bitcointalk logic LOL
gotta love it.. you guys work over time here trying to make bad excuses for bad behavior.

And to the other guy.. use the search feature here
(you might find i have answered your question 100's of times before already)

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November 05, 2015, 05:43:38 AM
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I see both sides to this debate. On one hand developers do need money to make services and such to build a coin up but on the other side they shouldn't as everyone should (In a perfect world) have an equal opportunity to mine and get coins as other people to make it a fair market. Even bitcoin was originally invented to fix problems with our monetary sistem. Satoshi must have put a lot of time (remember  Time=Money) into building bitcoin and did he get much (if any) from it?
Although I personally am looking at bitcoin/alts more and more as shares rather than currency (From trading etc.)
tldr; I am undecided on the matter.

I'm with you.  I think we as a community should start to look deeper whether an IPO is a scam or not.  There are a lot of factors involved.  So it's really hard to judge if one project is scamming the public or not.  One example is the NXT vs BTS trolling that goes on here.  Are NXT/BTS scams then?  It would depend on one's POV right?  I think both are awesome projects trying different approaches in achieving success.  Nothing wrong with that.

Fast forward to today.

The number one factor with IPO's is, I think, devs should not be anonymous.  Those days are gone.  If they're gonna ask people for money via an IPO to fund a project, it is best that they have all the necessary details about them shown to the public for background checks.

They should also have their own domain and website, not just a fucking thread in the altcoin announcement sub.

Finally, require that their money accounting stuff is transparent for everyone or at least the project's stakeholders.  It's for them to have the opportunity to scrutinize and look into concerning the IPO funds.  Transparency is a must.

I know may have missed something, but those three come out right away.

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March 02, 2016, 02:41:37 PM
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Prediction:  There will never be any succesful IPO coin.  

If Bitcoin was released as a premine, none of you would have even heard of it because it would universally be labeled a scam.

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March 02, 2016, 04:22:49 PM
 #129

There should be set in stone guidelines for any IPO or ICO

You have to protect against

1. outright scams from the start with no tech behind them, no escrow, zero post devs, sock puppets.

2. Insta ICO's with tech behind them but launched to them and a few people (sock puppets and pals) quickly so the distribution is tiny. Then pumped and pumped by people building almost frenzied mentality. Then released on exchanges and unloaded at 50 x ico price.


Designing set in stone ICO protocols which have to be followed is the best way.
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