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Mining profitability ASIC vs GPU. For those who are planning to mine a cryptocurrency Take a look at this Guys. How Much Can I Earn With ASIC?How Much Can I Earn With a GPU Mining? Take note: Price, Profitability and Payback are always changing, anyway, since it always changing, I will update this regularly.
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June 08, 2018, 07:10:12 AM |
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Well, but not everybody have the same electricity cost as you. And also, not every ASIC is currently out now. Btw, the Z9 mini is not available.
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June 08, 2018, 08:22:11 AM |
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The coins you're mining with ASICs may fork to implement ASIC resistance and you may end up in having a big loss as ASICs don't come cheap.
The gains are indeed higher for ASICs but the risks are higher too.
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June 08, 2018, 08:26:01 AM |
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Well, From the general view, this post is quite impressive. Comparing devices straight to another one, and we don't know what the X variable is. At least it can be a reference for newly miners.
But, That was only basic comparison table between ASIC and GPU. Maybe the profitability that shown above comes from the same coin while mined by both.
Comparing one ASIC to one GPU isn't fair, one standard GPU rig -at least 6 GPU on it, may fair enough. But still, on a standard comparison -where both operated on the same algorithm/coins, ASICs has better profitability. Except comparing the miners perspective, most of the experienced miner has secret formulas to find their own "gold" coin. That's why even with that comparison table appear everywhere, GPUs still interest for a lot of miners.
As I always said, whatever it is, it will depend on "Whose behind the machine."
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June 08, 2018, 08:42:03 AM |
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1. Difficulty increases much faster for ASIC coins.
2. ASICs are harder to use (either you need a separate building/warehouse or you need to tolerate a jet engine in your home).
3. GPUs have much higher resale value and have value that is independent of the cryptocurrency market.
GPU mining is therefore much less risky, which is why it has a lower return on paper. It's a much better investment, in my view, than ASIC mining.
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June 08, 2018, 08:53:05 AM |
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Some of the list of ASIC MINERS Hash Rate Pow.Cons. Price/start Profitability PaybackBitmain Antminer z9 mini 10KH/S 300w $850.00 $32.30/d 26d Great post! But it's immediately hard to not notice that the cost of the Z9 MINI is wrong. As far as i can recall, it was never as low as $850 (you may be referring to the E3 which was originally sold at $800). 2. ASICs are harder to use (either you need a separate building/warehouse or you need to tolerate a jet engine in your home).
I'd beg to differ. ASICs are extremely easy to use (literally just plug and play earn). Let's not confuse "harder to use" with "harder to tolerate." Besides, it's also easily to tolerate if you are willing to put in the effort to it. A simple coleman cooler case silencer would easily reduce your noise problem.
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June 08, 2018, 09:04:15 AM |
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Overall it's a good comparing article but for the element Price/start, Profitability, Payback is very difficult to predict those all depends on a few elements such as electricity cost of each country, and the price of each country's currency when converting to dollar price (when buying some hardware) so both can affect Payback.
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June 08, 2018, 09:46:04 AM |
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Well, but not everybody have the same electricity cost as you. And also, not every ASIC is currently out now. Btw, the Z9 mini is not available.
A9 will be available very soon.
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June 08, 2018, 02:40:22 PM |
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but the electricity cost in my country is low about 0.08-0.09
so my profit maybe is more than other country
personaly i remind GPUS
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June 08, 2018, 02:53:50 PM |
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but the electricity cost in my country is low about 0.08-0.09
so my profit maybe is more than other country
personaly i remind GPUS
Electricity will sucks you according to the number of hardware and hash power you get for the mining purposes bro. I see best in the hashes with the ASIC hardware because it can give more hashes then the number of hashes you get with the mining graphics card. If you can invest the big fund you will be go with the ASIC hardware. But if you able to invest with in 2000 USD we will get into the GPU mining only then you choose any algorithm with the GPU cards but not in ASIC.
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June 08, 2018, 03:10:40 PM |
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Some of the list of ASIC MINERS Hash Rate Pow.Cons. Price/start Profitability PaybackBitmain Antminer z9 mini 10KH/S 300w $850.00 $32.30/d 26d Great post! But it's immediately hard to not notice that the cost of the Z9 MINI is wrong. As far as i can recall, it was never as low as $850 (you may be referring to the E3 which was originally sold at $800). 2. ASICs are harder to use (either you need a separate building/warehouse or you need to tolerate a jet engine in your home).
I'd beg to differ. ASICs are extremely easy to use (literally just plug and play earn). Let's not confuse "harder to use" with "harder to tolerate." Besides, it's also easily to tolerate if you are willing to put in the effort to it. A simple coleman cooler case silencer would easily reduce your noise problem. The Z9mini $850 pricing is for August/September batch so the revenue figure are completely out of wack... He should use the original price 2500$ and it would still be profitable
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June 08, 2018, 03:14:29 PM |
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but the electricity cost in my country is low about 0.08-0.09
so my profit maybe is more than other country
personaly i remind GPUS
The Middle East? With that electricity cost, I'm sure that was heaven for the miners. In my area, electricity cost almost doubled from yours. But' I can say for sure, I'm still getting good profit with my current electricity cost. I'm using GPUs as my mining equipment (- I'm not saying that GPU is better than ASIC), I had done with ASICs a few years ago (- my last ASIC is Antminer S2) in 2014 I think. I'd like to explore, and Graphic Cards more suitable for my passion. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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June 08, 2018, 04:39:33 PM |
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What's the point of this thread when profitability changes each and every single day, and ASICs like the Baikal-B (although not listed, using this as an example) can lose $0.50 of profitability per day with the way things are going for the miner right now? Doing your own calculations for time 'till return is much more accurate, and it's not exactly hard to punch numbers in, especially when calculators like the Nicehash mining calculator exist, where you can click two buttons and find return times for your electrical rate, etc? Unless you somehow make it so the thread automatically updates profitability regularly, it's really not accurate at all, and the same inaccuracy exists for card pricing, which in turn also messes up return time for cards.
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June 08, 2018, 04:47:39 PM |
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Asic is a piece of iron. It is expensive, on the secondary market is not in demand. As a rule, it's very dinny and consumes electricity. The profit falls very quickly, only those customers who will receive the first are the winners + problems with the guarantee.
The GPU has fewer problems and can be sold in the secondary market
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June 08, 2018, 04:53:09 PM Last edit: June 08, 2018, 05:13:05 PM by Geraldo |
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What's the point of this thread when profitability changes each and every single day.....
This thread more like proving " something". Comparing one device to another, and will not give us an estimated profit in a long-term (- even may not be worth on the short-term), of course. But the discussion below OP's post may be useful as new miner reference. ( I hope ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) )
Well, but not everybody have the same electricity cost as you. And also, not every ASIC is currently out now. Btw, the Z9 mini is not available.
A9 will be available very soon. I heard that too. 50 Ksol/s 620W (The sales price is $9999), Holy Crap!
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June 08, 2018, 05:40:56 PM |
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Your numbers are way off - 1080ti is still $4+ per day ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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June 09, 2018, 07:58:28 AM |
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That’s quite a basic or general comparison. Nothing informative. Actually the point is that we cannot say that only one is profitable for mining. Both has its own advantages and disadvantages which can be read on internet. You have to choose keeping in mind which one is favorable for you according to your circumstances like electricity costs. If you need some advice than I will suggest that start with GPU mining and gradually when the ROI id done go for ASIC mining.
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June 09, 2018, 08:56:22 AM |
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Your numbers are way off - 1080ti is still $4+ per day ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Can you mine ZEC to get that?
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June 09, 2018, 10:38:53 AM |
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welcome to buy asic ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) [Equihash Anti-ASIC Fork] Every Equihash coin and what they decided about the Forkmining self.zec Zcash - Still being debated - Proof Zencash - Not Announced Yet - BitcoinZ - Will Fork - Proof Bitcoin Gold - Will Fork - Proof Bitcoin Private - Will Fork - Proof Komodo - No Fork - Proof Votecoin - Has decided to follow Zcash's decision - Proof Hush - Not Announced Yet - SnowGem - Will be decided after meeting with other Equihash Coins - Proof Safe Coin - Will Fork - Proof Zel Cash - Will Fork - Proof https://www.reddit.com/r/zec/comments/8h14ms/equihash_antiasic_fork_every_equihash_coin_and/
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June 09, 2018, 10:40:48 AM |
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This table doesn't make very much sense. The difficulty and the pool hashrates are always changing, so also the Profitability and Payback change regularly. Showing the hashrate also makes no sense because you compare different algos ...
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