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June 13, 2018, 12:10:11 PM
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There is element of market manipulation particularly by the Whales who bought huge amount at the cheaper rate and sell later when Bitcoin value appreciate and that make so many people lost during correction period of they thought its value will continue to appreciate but later cut off by the Whales.
This is something normal here. I think you don’t have to be so sensitive about such cases. Whales have some good power with which they can control the market. Here I want to clear a thing that often people say whales can control a particular coin, no that isn’t right. They can manipulate the market according to their own interests and needs. You just be careful from their actions.

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June 13, 2018, 01:26:12 PM
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Yes, the price is highly manipulated by the news.  I guess Crypto Ban is the major cause, the media people comes with the Ban news everytime, price falls down. And the Cryptocurrency prices because of the Crypto whales who holds the high number of coins and sell them all together at once. Which cause the price declines, still people are Hoping to see the rise of the price again as end of 2017 and early 2018.

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June 15, 2018, 06:27:53 AM
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I do not think the closing of registrations for new accounts is related to any price manipulation issues. It is mainly down to scaling problems.
I do agree that there are some who can manipulate the price of certain coins.
I am pretty sure there is no one that does not know this is already a fact and sometimes the whales are so stupid and dumb enough to keep making it obvious. Compared to the past, I must say that bitcoin price manipulations are got reduced but I am not sure what future has for us.

As a whale, I believe you already have an upper hand in the market, but then trying to create wrong impression in the market based on some technical movement or some fundamental news is just becoming pathetic in this market and I really hope something is done about it which would really have to start with the exchanges because I am sure they know much about this.

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June 16, 2018, 05:21:52 AM
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many people are losers due to this decline, but not a few also take advantage of this opportunity to buy coins. I think there will be a good time where the value and coin chart will rise again.
There are so many investors in this world of the crypto currency and that it is not possible for all the investors to make some profit all the time and that there are people who lose their money as well due to their own mistakes but the thing is you must stay in your senses and that you don’t have to make any decision without even thinking over it and that you must be careful while dealing with things at time of pump and dump.
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June 16, 2018, 12:50:04 PM
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Nothing else but the manipulation of the big whales. Poor late people. If they come to make profit, I hope they will not be disappointed.

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June 16, 2018, 01:19:56 PM
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I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.

We have all the reasons to think about it in that way because crypto currency going to those heights and slashing back with no reasons was really ambiguous one to see. I think it was way big plan that what we think or how it was conveyed to us - the general investors!

But there is another possibility that bitcoin is getting manipulated now as whales might wanna have another profit box for themselves in the same way they had last year. Who knows people might see this coming and start pouring more money into the crypto and thus will pump the prices naturally over the time and whales will benefit from it. So it may be manipulated for good or bad reasons but it is the same.

 
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June 16, 2018, 02:45:17 PM
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difficult to answer on that question, its unfair accusing to the big time investor which is called as whales manipulated and controlling the bitcoin value in the market. I'm not in the side from the big whales but I'm telling what is the fair for us, do not accuse if there nothing contrite evidence for them.

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June 16, 2018, 03:24:09 PM
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I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.

We have all the reasons to think about it in that way because crypto currency going to those heights and slashing back with no reasons was really ambiguous one to see. I think it was way big plan that what we think or how it was conveyed to us - the general investors!

But there is another possibility that bitcoin is getting manipulated now as whales might wanna have another profit box for themselves in the same way they had last year. Who knows people might see this coming and start pouring more money into the crypto and thus will pump the prices naturally over the time and whales will benefit from it. So it may be manipulated for good or bad reasons but it is the same.
Even we do know it but we cant do anything about it we are just small investors manipulation might be there. Then what? Go along with it and not to be surprised on how crypto prices do moves. Manipulated or not but we can really be profitable on this market. Depending on how you deal and make ways to utilize those movements. The important thing on the very first place is that you should really know on the risk behind it so that you wont be surprised if you lose up money because of the volatility.

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June 16, 2018, 03:34:06 PM
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I believe that it's impossible to fully manipulate with bitcoin price, because it's decentralized and many people do what they want to do with their bitcoins. Who control news and the ones who spin the news can manipulate with masses, if masses follow that and sell in panic or buy I'm fever, manipulators use that, they earn when others losing.
To many people is involved in bitcoin right now, and community is growing more. I think in future it will be harder to manipulate with bitcoin price. Decentralization is the key here, nobody can order us what we need to do with our bitcoins, don't fall on false news.

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June 16, 2018, 07:03:36 PM
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Yes, the price is highly manipulated by the news.  I guess Crypto Ban is the major cause, the media people comes with the Ban news everytime, price falls down. And the Cryptocurrency prices because of the Crypto whales who holds the high number of coins and sell them all together at once. Which cause the price declines, still people are Hoping to see the rise of the price again as end of 2017 and early 2018.
Quite right, the news has a very strong influence on the actions of investors and other users of crypto-currencies. Even any information on bitcointalk can raise interest in crypto currency or a certain coin, and also lower it below the skirting board. But nevertheless the market is still manipulated by large whales, throwing out or buying up a certain number of coins, Which leads to the situation that they need at that time.
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June 16, 2018, 08:24:48 PM
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Yes, I believe that prices for everything are controlled: gold, oil, gas, precious stones, crypto currency, etc. In the media, information is sent to the crowd to listen and believe. thereby creating an opinion of the crowd.
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Most people think it is.Nice article OP but it's just so unfortunate to know  that it won't work that way you have stated it or viewed it because  emotions either good or bad  are part of human make up. No human being is born without emotions, infact, this is what makes us a living thing so we can't get rid if it totally but on the issue of trading emotions c.
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June 16, 2018, 10:42:16 PM
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I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.
I think no even there's so many whales that more funds than us I think they can't fully manipulated the market because it's basing to demand in the market if all people. And I think its normal that the market have a down and ups like Btc because like I said it's basing on demands in the market.

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June 17, 2018, 01:44:39 AM
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Yes i heard if  the market has been manipulated in january by Tether and Bitfinex. This is possible they do that because they big company that has alot of money.   Crypto market just young market that has low market cap and low trading volume that why the price possible to manipulate by any party that has big money.

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June 17, 2018, 02:09:12 AM
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It is just a coincidence.
You are just trying to analyze way deeper than anyone.
Thise are billions of dollars that are out there. How do you think you could shake it without even a trace from amy industry. Banks and other financial services can somehow tell where it will come from if it is that big.

Right now it gets stricter. There is a limit into how much you can deposit and withdraw. So it will not be easy to manipulate it. You would need a big group to make it happen.
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June 18, 2018, 08:03:39 AM
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Nothing else but the manipulation of the big whales. Poor late people. If they come to make profit, I hope they will not be disappointed.


I partially think like that and this is because the market invisible forces also pay a role in the manipulation or fluctuation of the prices. The sharks and whales in the market are also responsible for the price manipulation. But the factor like profitability and liquidity of the crypto like Bitcoin are not fluctuated and is still the same which is the only reason people are still investing in the market.
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June 18, 2018, 10:29:40 AM
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It is just a coincidence.
You are just trying to analyze way deeper than anyone.
Thise are billions of dollars that are out there. How do you think you could shake it without even a trace from amy industry. Banks and other financial services can somehow tell where it will come from if it is that big.

Right now it gets stricter. There is a limit into how much you can deposit and withdraw. So it will not be easy to manipulate it. You would need a big group to make it happen.
Don't look it with only one sided vision and this billion dollars it was a marketcap and in my almost 4 years in crypto i will say that this low volumes is advantage for tge big people and knowingly there is a group of organization whose behind on this proven manipulations. If read the news they are investigating with this manipulations in price and there is no limit in depositing imagine how many people have a big amount of bitcoins.
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June 18, 2018, 10:41:32 AM
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The exchanges closed new registration to upgrade their system for bigger user database and it had nothing to do with price manipulation. Obviously, It was just a coincidence, you couldn't verify your statement with proof. The market relatively has lower capitalisation than forex does, so yes it can be easily manipulated by whales.
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June 20, 2018, 07:31:06 AM
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Concerning exchanges closing registrations,that's normal because the exchange platform can't handle infinite members because hosting limited performance etc..They had to close the registrations to expand their capacity of members by upgrading their servers.Thus,it's not really a manipulation from exchanges.However,whales are kind of manipulating the market we've seen this many times now a whale sold his coins and a huge wave of sells followed him.
Most exchanges are whales themselves and I won't be surprised they may have an inside trader who would be doing the manipulations. Things like this should be spotted and not allowed to happen in any market as it affects the free and fair movement of the market based on real demand and supply.

It is obvious that fake signals are being created to mislead traders and investors, bots keep doing their thing based on how they have been programmed for manipulation, and so on.

Due to lack of mass adoption, bitcoin market is still under manipulation. Only when bitcoin marketcap to be hiting multiple trillion dollar levels, we may assume those manipulators will come to a point where they will not have power to move the market direction on their own wishes.
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June 20, 2018, 07:20:37 PM
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That is a general suspicion with crypto market as the volume is not too large refer to a wealthy person, it is easier to manipulate the price by the rich man compared to other stuff such as forex and stock exchange. Therefore US justice is investigating this issues in recent weeks to prove the suspicion.
It is no longer a suspicion, as it is glaring unless for those who have decided not to see it.
This market has been behaving in different ways lately that is definitely subject to manipulation and from all the characteristics of a manipulated market, I am sure whoever is smart or vigilant enough to notice would have noticed.

I have never been a fan of regulation but it seems we just cannot do without it as this would help with huge growth and diminish all these form of market manipulations.
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