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June 30, 2018, 02:57:14 PM
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Sometime it can be manipulated, and most of whales are manipulating the cryptocurrency by the price, but we should to be aware and should be stronger in take decision because it can be a trap for us before buy or sell any coins.

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June 30, 2018, 03:08:49 PM
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I do believe that there are some forms of manipulation on cryptocurrency business, but the total balancing system are only beyond the control of cryptocurrency management, and the truth of price control system is really on the management decision that base on the market situation which fits on the volume of market demand and supply.

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June 30, 2018, 03:19:20 PM
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Price is being heavily manipulated at the moment.

When price went $6000 after returning from a low of $5800, BTC long positions were at highly overbought condition and were 30% more than shorts which made it quite riskier to hodl longs. This was all according to the technical analysis. but BTC completely went against the TA and gone through a 6% instant rise. I am not saying TA is always correct. But how it failed to this extent when volume and price trend were both directing towards another dump to $5800 after $6000. This shows that whales are manipulating the market and working against the common market perception which ruins the small traders and make them panic sell.
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June 30, 2018, 03:20:17 PM
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Yes a group of cartels is trying to manipulate the price through some exploit they've been doing for a long time using also some exchanges they're making some fake volume trading or dump a huge amount of crypto. In order to trigger a downtrend and causing FUD for traders then they blame it to the hacks in trading site like in korea.

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June 30, 2018, 03:24:16 PM
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I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.
I am not denying that the price is manipulated but fully is not happening,the exchanges were closed registrations maybe the coincident or by the whales but still they can't completely control it so it all depends on how we react to the market situation.Most of the time they will just trigger the manipulation and they will carried out long way through those idiots who don't believe the technology behind it.

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June 30, 2018, 06:29:46 PM
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Sometime it can be manipulated, and most of whales are manipulating the cryptocurrency by the price, but we should to be aware and should be stronger in take decision because it can be a trap for us before buy or sell any coins.
It will not work for the whales of we will be determined and not to sell, they just do this for their own betterment, most of time new users get trapped by them but those who knows will never sell their bitcoin to help them manipulate the market, actually they do this pre planned for better low price bitcoin, they sell high amount of bitcoin in market so price gets down for higher supply them those greedy and clever whales buy double amount of bitcoin to increase their income.
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June 30, 2018, 06:48:35 PM
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Sometime it can be manipulated, and most of whales are manipulating the cryptocurrency by the price, but we should to be aware and should be stronger in take decision because it can be a trap for us before buy or sell any coins.
It will not work for the whales of we will be determined and not to sell, they just do this for their own betterment, most of time new users get trapped by them but those who knows will never sell their bitcoin to help them manipulate the market, actually they do this pre planned for better low price bitcoin, they sell high amount of bitcoin in market so price gets down for higher supply them those greedy and clever whales buy double amount of bitcoin to increase their income.

It is interesting that even before entering the market the newcomers are educating themselves fully and when they enter the market they still don't know when the manipulation occurs. Bitcoin has become so popular and because of that popularity, many newcomers want it because of its volatility and because of the mystery future growth. When the observers saw the last year growth all of a sudden every one of these same observers is entering the market which isn't in fully manipulated but in most cases it is. All are hoping for easy money but instead of reacting to the mentioned manipulation they should just ignore it! But for the ignorant ones ignoring is not possible because in the moment of the well-organized manipulation they don't even know that it is already happening.

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June 30, 2018, 09:36:14 PM
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Crypto market is been manipulated because of they news surrounding it's growth, when a top personality says a bad news that concern crypto eventually you have to see they effect or when there is hacks also they market drops
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June 30, 2018, 10:29:34 PM
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I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.
I am not denying that the price is manipulated but fully is not happening,the exchanges were closed registrations maybe the coincident or by the whales but still they can't completely control it so it all depends on how we react to the market situation.Most of the time they will just trigger the manipulation and they will carried out long way through those idiots who don't believe the technology behind it.
I think price manipulation on the cryptocurrency market is very common and frequent because most coins have relatively small trading volumes and large investors can completely dominate the value of it. That's a pretty annoying thing to invest in the cryptocurrency market.

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June 30, 2018, 11:19:24 PM
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Yes' I think that the price is manipulated and I'm not the only one. That's exactly what CTFC (commodity futures trading commission) is investigating right now. They issued subpoenas to a number of exchanges (4 last time I checked) and demanded all trading data. This happened like 2 days ago, and we crashed...
I hope people responsible will not get too scared, what would the market be without a bit of manipulation Wink
May be it is but still i think that we do not any any evidence about it, i think that as bitcoin price is now trading too much high as compare to previous time when it was trading in some hundred dollar, at that time it was more easy to manipulate bitcoin price but now it has become too much difficult and it will require a lot of money for single person or for some big whales to manipulate the bitcoin price.
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July 01, 2018, 05:42:08 AM
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Some traders of crypto-exchange exchanges use the scheme of manipulating quotations for crypto-currencies, known as Pump and Dump, and some market or propel the market with self-fulfilling prophecies, perhaps without even realizing it.
The information about the sharp jumps or falls spreads in a matter of seconds, creating a crowd of people who are in a hurry to redeem the coin because of the lost profit syndrome (FOMO) or sell it for fear of being left with nothing (FUD).there are also some big players (whales) who do not want to give their earnings to hamsters...
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July 01, 2018, 09:20:24 AM
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Yes, maybe, this is the second time around in 2018, maybe the whales are trying to manipulate the market, and this time they are buying into the most potential altcoins, in my opinion. is the main reason for the deep discount market as it is now.
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July 01, 2018, 09:31:46 AM
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If I think sometimes it happens in their spare time, they will do it. Not only in the world of kriptocurrancy that occurs in the world of stock. But not many people realize it. This exchange closes new registrations to upgrade their system to a larger user database and has nothing to do with price manipulation.
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July 01, 2018, 09:37:40 AM
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Yes price is manipulated because of crypto whales. But same things are happening in other platforms like stock exchange etc. But because of this manipulation only crypto became available to common man. But in crypto market no panic sell need to wait till we get profits. Day trading is better way.
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July 01, 2018, 02:56:33 PM
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I don't think so. The market is so huge and i don't know how can day manipulate the market. But don't take away the possibilities that some group of billionaires can put an impact on the market.

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July 01, 2018, 04:49:52 PM
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No, I think the price is driven by idiots most of the times. News can heavily impact this market because most people are beginners at this. People that have a lot of money and invested in bitcoin aren't usually trading, look at the winklevoss brothers, they are not trading, they just hold, they don't give a fuck about the fluctuations. People on the other hand do.
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July 01, 2018, 04:57:07 PM
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Price of bitcoin is not completely manipulated. It is clear that to some extent the price is being manipulated by the whales, beyond which the market moves independently. When the whales manipulate the price automatically this leads to a large scale panic among the users and the same makes the manipulation sustain for a longer time period.
Normally that is the idea of the manipulation or what do you really think the manipulation is all about. The whales carefully read emotions on the chart and they play with it.

It is as easy for them as the market is more speculative in nature and as long as that is in play, they can create signals to their advantage and the thing is that they are the market makers and they will always be winning in every way. Hopefully as time goes on, we will get to start seeing the market move based on real demand and not by FUD or FOMO.

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July 01, 2018, 08:41:34 PM
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To be honest, the price is not full name manipulated but it is the effect of fear of missing out after a little fluctuation in the price. As we all know that crypto industry is still in the basic phase of development, there is a lack of knowledge, awareness and mass maturity and hence big whales and institutional investors take the advantage of this situation. ]Thus the situation is influenced by certain elements but it is not under the control of those elements completely.

You misinterpreted the OP I guess. The FOMO, FUD are all different names of something that is coming out of the panic of people. However OP's right in terms of manipulation too. This I believe is the act of getting prices changed intentionally by selling or buying the large quantities of the tokens that are being manipulated.
If you really check the past graphs then its surely impossible to predict as to why there was sudden pump of the december month as going that high was merely impossible with natural hikes because you will surely need that many investors making investment. But it was surely act of whales and yes thats the best proof of price manipulations.
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July 01, 2018, 09:33:36 PM
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I believe that prices are manipulated by the people who have large investments but not reaaly much. There are always other reason why does the price swings up and down. Just like panic selling where they contributed for the price to move in a downward direction and it was result of FUD news spread by the media.
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July 03, 2018, 06:13:52 AM
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The price of the crypto currency market is manipulated by whales, and we have already made sure of this many times. However, they can not fully regulate the price in the market. A lot of people are involved in the market, in sum this is a very large amount, so they can not completely influence the market.
After going through some of the research papers, I came to know that manipulators actually exist and they can manipulate the values but not always. At times, the market simply does not respond to the fall in the demand. And even if there is a high aggregate demand in the market, the fall in the demand by the manipulators might not be so high and the effect will be a very lump sum one.
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