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August 14, 2018, 09:50:41 AM
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For me YES, there are many big people behind this manipulation. Specially those people that is really rich, and planning to start to invest in cryptocurrencies. I really believe that manipulation of the price of Bitcoin still effective but it will not be effective forever, bitcoin will become fully decentralized soon.
But I think that now it is becoming difficult for them to manipulate the bitcoin price. I think that the current decrease in bitcoin price is only because of some bad news in the market and hopefully very soon bitcoin price will reach too much good.
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August 14, 2018, 10:06:37 AM
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I think it's the whales who is one of the responsible of this price manipulation, they are holding a huge volume of bitcoin. People who spread fud are also the reason, they make holders sell their coins and the price will go down, after that many will buy again.
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August 14, 2018, 10:07:51 AM
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The price growth in the end of last year was simply not natural, the hype, and the FOMO took away the sense of reality of many paople. Would not blame the exchanges, big whales maybe.
There was a huge corelation between printed Tether and BTC price increase. The growth of the market was indeed not natural and all cryptocurrenciec where extremely overpriced.
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August 14, 2018, 10:48:02 AM
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The closing of any new accounts is not connected with the price manipulation at all.
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August 14, 2018, 11:43:18 AM
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Although there are many news that crypto prices can be manipulated but I think that is a coin or a token that marketcap is still small, it will be difficult for anyone to be able to control bitcoin that has a marketcap of more than $ 120 billion.
Price manipulation is directly related with the number of participants in the market or the demand rate; change in the number of participants alters the prices. Do not make decisions on just hope for near or quick recovery of market price as we have been observing the little increases and then downfalls which are repeating it self. So we have to decide for considering to look for benefit only which is to buy more coins at this stage.
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August 14, 2018, 09:47:21 PM
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I find it hard to believe that someone is influencing the price so hard. I'm not saying it's impossible, it's just unlikely.
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August 14, 2018, 10:21:59 PM
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I think it's the whales who is one of the responsible of this price manipulation, they are holding a huge volume of bitcoin. People who spread fud are also the reason, they make holders sell their coins and the price will go down, after that many will buy again.
I believe the cryptocurrency market is always manipulated by wealthy investors. Many coins are heavily priced and fluctuate according to the speculators as well. Because the market is so small, so much easier to manipulate, I hope that when the market is mature enough it will not happen again.

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August 15, 2018, 12:24:47 AM
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I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.

I don't find that strange, thery were overoaded with thousands of wannabe BTC holders. Ad for the manipulation, I am afraid there are huge speculators able to be market makers and impose market cycles, sucnh as bull and bear markets.

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August 15, 2018, 12:43:11 AM
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I believe the cryptocurrency market is always manipulated by wealthy investors. Many coins are heavily priced and fluctuate according to the speculators as well. Because the market is so small, so much easier to manipulate, I hope that when the market is mature enough it will not happen again.

Yes, there is a manipulation but not fully manipulated wherein they are controlling the price all the time or buy and sell all the time. It is just that the ones who are holding the big amount of coins would initiate the movement of price so that the retail investors/ traders would pick up the news that there is something happening with the coin so they would buy or sell their coins and then those big holders would eat those orders.

When the market is bearish, they would push the price lower making the holders worry and panic sell so that they can buy the coins at a cheap price. When they want to sell, they would organized a pump and then later on when the price is high enough, they would dump it to the buyers again and then price would just plunge down but they already have profits since they sold at the top.

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August 15, 2018, 01:54:25 AM
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The price growth in the end of last year was simply not natural, the hype, and the FOMO took away the sense of reality of many paople. Would not blame the exchanges, big whales maybe.
if that's true manipulation of the whales, I just hope the pump price will be repeated again at the end of this year? is that possible? seeing the bitcoin market is very easy to lure to flare up, I think it's very possible. just like a few days ago, when prices rose very fast to $8200, is that manipulation?
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August 15, 2018, 02:28:09 AM
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I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.
It is manipulated but not totally. Everyone of us holds the cryptocurrency and we are the one that will make the decision whether we sell it or not. There are also manipulation that happens in the market and we cannot avoid it. But as a wise trader, we should not be dependent on the current move of the price so that we can prevent of losing much of our investment.
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August 15, 2018, 05:00:01 AM
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in my opinion, the price of bitcoin at the place of exchange cannot be manipulated, the price depends on the buyer, seller and some news of the cryptocurrency in some media, usually when there is bad news and there is good news that will trigger buyers and sellers to carry out bitcoin price movements.
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August 15, 2018, 09:23:15 AM
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Right now, with $200 Billion marketcap, Yes, price is pretty much manipulated.

Whales don't have patience to wait for a bullish period to make any decent profit. So, they usually manipulated the market which goes against the majority market sentiment and this way they ruin trades of majority and earn profit out of them. Unless you are good at cutting losses at right time, try to trade with less volume in such markets when is dearth of new volume in the market.
Even if the market is manipulated which indeed is by the big whales that does not mean it is a bad thing. This is the reason why we still have bitcoin with us or else it might have gone for a long time now. Big investors supported bitcoin in its dark times and they are the ones who get benefit at the end because they stay with their assets. Whales are good for digital market.
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August 15, 2018, 05:57:58 PM
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I think the price of the coins or investments in the market is not fully manipulated
because they are still following what are the rules regulations under the law of this kind of issue although they are a little of possibility.
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August 15, 2018, 06:03:41 PM
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The price of a crypto currency can not be fully controlled by anyone. Whales can plan and conduct joint actions, this can periodically affect the price of the crypto currency, but nobody can fully control it. In general, it is decentralized.
It seems that the burst of bitcoin prices in December last year was caused precisely by such joint actions.
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August 15, 2018, 06:07:06 PM
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I think that it was really strange that in January when BTC went down all big cryptocurrency exchanges closed registration for new members and they opened it only when the price was low. Then at spring when the downtrend was broken(7000$) there were many news that cryptocurrency now will go up! But whales just made big shorts at 10 000 $and all the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position.
I'm thinking that those who are having a big amount of money here are trying to manipulate the price but we are still having many of different other factors that would affect the price besides them.
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August 15, 2018, 07:58:55 PM
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A small few people own a lot of the btc supply, just keep this in your mind, while most "average joy investors" are panicing right now and selling, as they think we will go lower, many "smart investors- or whatever you want to call them" are buying this panic, so I see more manipulation in future, but dont get me wrong, once the masses arive this will taper off

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August 16, 2018, 06:29:56 AM
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the news said that cryptocurrency won't go up for along time and market went down to current position...concerning exchanges closing registrations,that's normal because the exchange platform can't handle infinite members because hosting limited performance they had to close the registrations to expand their capacity of members by upgrading their servers.it's not really a manipulation from exchanges.are kind of manipulating the market we've seen this many times now a whale sold his coins and a huge wave of sells followed him....

However, this is the fact - the price of Bitcoin is manipulated by those people, who hold the largest part of all the cryptocurrency. As BTC affects altcoins, it can change the situation on the market.
Price manipulation belongs to those investors or traders who have coins in large quantity that will manipulate the market when they sell at once.

On the other hand if some people have lots of money and they buy Bitcoins in large quantity then the market will manipulate in upward direction. We mostly observe it in the Bitcoin because of its high potential and people are welling for it to invest with any amount.
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August 16, 2018, 08:31:33 AM
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Yes, the bitcoin price is fully manipulated.
Only 3 entities hold 50%+ of the voting/mining power (check http://arewedecentralizedyet.com).

Take the recent events, for instance.
1) The market cap gets below $200B, the whales make money on holders.
2) Many short-term leverage traders bet on bitcoin getting lower.
3) The whales come and make the market bounce back to the upward direction. Now the whales make money on the shortists.
4) The market continues to go down, the whales continue making money on holders.

The end of the story.


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August 16, 2018, 12:42:29 PM
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The volume is not too large and that is usually the general scenario.
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