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Im not good at this, but its a yes for me in your choices above it opens my mind through with this we can be monitored or track in other ways.
From all the options you listed what i only knew is through gps and bitmain backdoor by using common sense it will track the location but i don't believe the identity so you can be able to know a person handling a phone and having a bitcoin from his phone wallet but not knowing his identity.
I like this thread as i am surprised and learning on some answers from the persons who knows some kind of it. Based on votes result it is a clear thing that many knows that we cant be track or known a bitcoin user by using a phone.
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June 13, 2018, 04:26:54 AM |
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I was following a thread and was amused by some of the answers. I'm interested to see how much people know.
Through doxxing someone could essentially find out exactly who you are, and if they're able to connect your Bitcointalk account to your identity then they definitely can find out what amount of Bitcoin you own, if they're connected to your account. Alternative, just seeing your address on something could be enough to tip someone off. Of course, you already know this, but I always say this since there's still a lot of people joining the forum and a fair amount don't know as much due to inexperience.
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June 13, 2018, 04:42:15 AM |
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My first answer is yes, I have the same reason as what BQ posted about the exchanges. Then again it could be also no because it depends on what you're going to do with your Bitcoins one could avoid disclosing his/her personal info by trading your coins for gift cards or buy a verified account from an exchange. This is one tricky question. There are many ways you can be revealed as a Bitcoin user. If you don't use ToR or similar software, your ISP knows that you visit Bitcoin resources like this forum. People leave many breadcrumbs that can reveal them even without any chain analysis, they discuss Bitcoin openly on social media or even in private messages (sites like Facebook definitely read them), same goes for real life - one can mention Bitcoin a few times with friends and suddenly everyone knows that they are a Bitcoin user.
I disagree with you, because somebody may talk about bitcoin but not use it. for example my friend, often talks about bitcoin but he is afraid to use bitcoin because the price is always changing. bitcoin is often discussed because bitcoin is being talked about. so not necessarily what is discussed as a user Right, the first example is true but the irl example isn't until there's a strong proof mentioned.
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June 13, 2018, 05:24:49 AM |
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Im not good at this, but its a yes for me in your choices above it opens my mind through with this we can be monitored or track in other ways.
From all the options you listed what i only knew is through gps and bitmain backdoor by using common sense it will track the location but i don't believe the identity so you can be able to know a person handling a phone and having a bitcoin from his phone wallet but not knowing his identity.
I like this thread as i am surprised and learning on some answers from the persons who knows some kind of it. Based on votes result it is a clear thing that many knows that we cant be track or known a bitcoin user by using a phone.
Some SPV clients reveal your IP as well. The most likely way Bitcoin user's identity will be tracked is through KYC exchanges. This is already happening. governments will more likely than not make it increasingly difficult to purchase Bitcoin. With this intense regulation in place, you will be forced to buy Bitcoin through KYC exchanges. The exchange then reports your purchase to the government, and the wallet address your coins where sent to. The government then registers this address as being your originating address, and they can then follow the coins and see who/where you send them to. Bitcoins public blockchain could become globally surveilled and governments could have a massive database with identities, exchanges, and services tied to millions of addresses. This is a potential Orwellian future we could live in.
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June 13, 2018, 05:25:00 AM |
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I think its hard to know who owning bitcoin wallet. Its still anonymous and its untrackable. Bitcoin already known as anonymity currency and thats why many government prohibit it
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June 13, 2018, 05:37:50 AM |
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Im not good at this, but its a yes for me in your choices above it opens my mind through with this we can be monitored or track in other ways.
From all the options you listed what i only knew is through gps and bitmain backdoor by using common sense it will track the location but i don't believe the identity so you can be able to know a person handling a phone and having a bitcoin from his phone wallet but not knowing his identity.
I like this thread as i am surprised and learning on some answers from the persons who knows some kind of it. Based on votes result it is a clear thing that many knows that we cant be track or known a bitcoin user by using a phone.
Some SPV clients reveal your IP as well. The most likely way Bitcoin user's identity will be tracked is through KYC exchanges. This is already happening. governments will more likely than not make it increasingly difficult to purchase Bitcoin. With this intense regulation in place, you will be forced to buy Bitcoin through KYC exchanges. The exchange then reports your purchase to the government, and the wallet address your coins where sent to. The government then registers this address as being your originating address, and they can then follow the coins and see who/where you send them to. Bitcoins public blockchain could become globally surveilled and governments could have a massive database with identities, exchanges, and services tied to millions of addresses. This is a potential Orwellian future we could live in. Kyc is another story and it was far from this options because it will be up to the person if he wants or willing to do submit KYC to access the full program in any other exchange. In public transactions it can be seen in public because of blockchain and this exchange who's not trusted may use it to leaked one's identity and put in harm.
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June 13, 2018, 05:37:57 AM |
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As I know since the creation of bitcoin until now, bitcoin is known as Anonymus which means it does not recognize its user identity. if the user is recognizable then not Bitcoin. so no one can connect you with bitcoins, unless you do it yourself.
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June 13, 2018, 06:26:48 AM |
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of course not the bitcoin address does not give the name of the owner so they do not know exactly who the bitcoin owner is, they only know how much content of bitcoin owned in the wallet of others but do not know who the owner is.
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June 13, 2018, 06:47:23 AM |
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I was following a thread and was amused by some of the answers. I'm interested to see how much people know.
Of course they know, because before you make this question, I've socialized bitcoin to the public, about how to get it and how to sell it, but I'm not worried about all that because until now my wallet is still safe.
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June 13, 2018, 08:06:08 PM |
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I voted for YES- it is pseudo anonymous so if you are not careful it can be revealed. To no surprise, this is the most popular vote by a count of 10 to 5, with the 5 other people thinking NO- it is never antonymous. This is a good indicator of how far Bitcoin has come, compared to the days when it was actually believed to be 100% anonymous, to now there being a better understanding that it is in fact a very traceable coin. If you are truly looking for anonymity, some better options of coins would be Dash or Monero.
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June 13, 2018, 08:44:21 PM |
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I vote NO, because when opening a blockchain wallet you don't need your name, address or country code or phone number. It anonymous, you can buy and you easily.
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June 13, 2018, 10:09:11 PM |
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This is really an interesting question, I myself don't know if this is even possible to do so. I think there is actually a way to check if a person owns a cryptocurrency by doing an IP address and check their recent views in chrome or any other internet browsers. It is like when you view something online in amazon that you are interested but then after a few days the one that you have been looking in amazon pop-ups in facebook or youtube or any other sites. Probably something like that for them to check or there would be another way that the government can confirm it.
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June 13, 2018, 10:27:16 PM |
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I was following a thread and was amused by some of the answers. I'm interested to see how much people know.
You are bound to get funny results because some of users does not even bother to learn what they are doing which is not a healthy situation, you cannot be really anonymous when it comes to bitcoin, unless you got hold of coins a long time back through mining and you are not moving the coins to any exchange then it is difficult to find the person behind it.
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June 13, 2018, 10:37:45 PM |
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Bitcoin is decentralized digital currency and anonymous. no one should know your identity as long as you keep it by your self and not revealing to others. If you sign a transaction that needs to put your identity then it will no longer anonymous,they will know that you owned bitcoin. if the government control the bitcoin and the bitcoiner follow their rules there should no anonymity anymore because government will regulate the bitcoin and all the users should do kyc or something to show your identity.
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June 13, 2018, 10:52:12 PM |
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I think it can revealed ypur identity if you are not careful, bitcoin is pseudo anonymous, its mean that all of the transaction can be tracked, but its is difficult to track, when the first time you make wallet you don't leave any identity, its only email address, but if you ever cashing out to fiat through bank, or any transaction that ever link to your identity then it can be track
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June 13, 2018, 11:10:25 PM |
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no one can know that we have bitcoin, blockchain system is very confusing, because of many millions of blocks that save every transaction and investment.
so, I think other people cannot see the contents of our bitcoin wallet. and it's safer. unless it tells you that we have a bitcoin on the wallet
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June 13, 2018, 11:12:19 PM |
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If you're worried about security check out HBUS as a marketplace to store your coins, especially Bitcoin. It's registered with FinCen and they use the same technology as Huobi, who have never been hacked so I would say it's pretty safe. They're website is hbus.com
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June 13, 2018, 11:26:43 PM |
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I was following a thread and was amused by some of the answers. I'm interested to see how much people know.
As for me. No one knows whatbI own and that I am using bitcoin unless I told then that I am using one. Though there are some kyc over the internet amd please be careful on who you are giving all your details. Yiu can ve tracked easily. Where you are right now. Where you signed and what you are using by that. That is why it is advided to changed address all the time.
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June 13, 2018, 11:32:11 PM |
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Bitcoin should be anonymous. But there are many ways to get the data of the trader. Our identity can be revealed if the Government requests the KYC data to the Exchanger. And this, probably already happened if the government Want to do it.
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June 14, 2018, 05:15:57 AM |
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Im not good at this, but its a yes for me in your choices above it opens my mind through with this we can be monitored or track in other ways.
From all the options you listed what i only knew is through gps and bitmain backdoor by using common sense it will track the location but i don't believe the identity so you can be able to know a person handling a phone and having a bitcoin from his phone wallet but not knowing his identity.
I like this thread as i am surprised and learning on some answers from the persons who knows some kind of it. Based on votes result it is a clear thing that many knows that we cant be track or known a bitcoin user by using a phone.
Some SPV clients reveal your IP as well. The most likely way Bitcoin user's identity will be tracked is through KYC exchanges. This is already happening. governments will more likely than not make it increasingly difficult to purchase Bitcoin. With this intense regulation in place, you will be forced to buy Bitcoin through KYC exchanges. The exchange then reports your purchase to the government, and the wallet address your coins where sent to. The government then registers this address as being your originating address, and they can then follow the coins and see who/where you send them to. Bitcoins public blockchain could become globally surveilled and governments could have a massive database with identities, exchanges, and services tied to millions of addresses. This is a potential Orwellian future we could live in. 1. It's true that few SPV client leak/revel IP, but that doesn't matter if you use VPN, Tor or other secure/private connection method. 2. There are alternatives for centralized/KYC exchange such as atomic swap, P2P trading or decentralized exchange. 3. You could use mixing service (and LN in future) to prevent anyone from tracking your coins. Also, moving to privacy and fungible cryptocurrency such as Monero is an alternative. using a SPV client is not just about revealing your IP address. it also means the node you are connecting to can associate all your addresses together. for example you may have 1 wallet with 5 different addresses in use which are not connected and you use for different purposes and one of these has your identity (e.g. used it for withdrawal from an exchanges). when you connect to that node with or without VPN/TOR it can know these 5 addresses belong to one person, and in case they log things they can build a database based on that.
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