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February 03, 2014, 02:58:06 AM
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Try to get to the one inside counterparty as soon as you can, before it is gone for good. There is only one order out there.
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February 03, 2014, 03:23:01 AM
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Selling 200 XCP @ 0.01 BTC each

EDIT: 100 XCP left now
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February 03, 2014, 05:09:04 AM
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Do we know of any good escrow services currently brokering XCP > BTC trades?

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February 03, 2014, 05:10:36 AM
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Do we know of any good escrow services currently brokering XCP > BTC trades?
counterpartyd Smiley

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February 03, 2014, 06:35:06 AM
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Just a warning to buyers: XCP burners (basically early adopters) have formed a cartel (chk xcp thread) and jacked up the price artificially by 10x-15x times. Please don't accept these prices as the coin is still a prototype and isn't worth that much yet. They are a greedy cartel

You could have burned your own BTC today :/. why so serious.

Well it's not right to take advantage of those who aren't aware of the xcp decentralized exchange, don't deny the cartel the discussions are clear on the xcp thread.

Warning to buyers: DO NOT buy from BT Talk, they formed a cartel and are ripping you off in here. XCP is sold 60% CHEAPER on the xcp decentralized exchange

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February 03, 2014, 06:40:02 AM
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we have the power
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February 03, 2014, 06:40:12 AM
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Just a warning to buyers: XCP burners (basically early adopters) have formed a cartel (chk xcp thread) and jacked up the price artificially by 10x-15x times. Please don't accept these prices as the coin is still a prototype and isn't worth that much yet. They are a greedy cartel

You could have burned your own BTC today :/. why so serious.

Well it's not right to take advantage of those who aren't aware of the xcp decentralized exchange, don't deny the cartel the discussions are clear on the xcp thread.

Warning to buyers: DO NOT buy from BT Talk, they formed a cartel and are ripping you off in here. XCP is sold 60% CHEAPER on the xcp decentralized exchange


http://blockscan.com/order.aspx?p=0 shows a few very small orders at prices lower than 0.01 BTC, but I am not seeing any significant orders at .004 BTC.

Where do you see a quote for .004 BTC?

I am sorry you missed out on the burning, but that does not give you the right to use misinformation.

James

P.S. the order for .0013 BTC was cancelled and was just a leftover from before. I assume all the orders for 1 XCP and 10 XCP are similar leftovers.

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February 03, 2014, 06:40:49 AM
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Where is the exchange?

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February 03, 2014, 06:43:04 AM
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I posted in main thread a logical XCP valuation using math, not envy:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395761.msg4906553#msg4906553

Let us compare XCP and mastercoin from a feature set, release status and market cap standpoint.

Everyone that burned BTC to get XCP in spite of almost everyone calling it madness, essentially got $10 bills for each $1 bill they burned.

What obligation does someone that got a $10 bill in this way have to sell it for less than $10?

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February 03, 2014, 06:45:21 AM
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I posted in main thread a logical XCP valuation using math, not envy:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395761.msg4906553#msg4906553

Let us compare XCP and mastercoin from a feature set, release status and market cap standpoint.

Everyone that burned BTC to get XCP in spite of almost everyone calling it madness, essentially got $10 bills for each $1 bill they burned.

What obligation does someone that got a $10 bill in this way have to sell it for less than $10?

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February 03, 2014, 07:41:12 AM
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we are getting ahead of ourselves with valuations and market caps. Let the client roll, let the people learn about this and the market will determine cap.

There cant be and there isnt any cartel as even if people wanted this, it is not realistic.

XCP should start trading on exchanges and from there the market will determine value.

I burned a few BTC because of the potential but I also dont think that it is a $100M cap just yet for a software in an alpha stage. patience is virtue.
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February 03, 2014, 07:56:05 AM
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we are getting ahead of ourselves with valuations and market caps. Let the client roll, let the people learn about this and the market will determine cap.

There cant be and there isnt any cartel as even if people wanted this, it is not realistic.

XCP should start trading on exchanges and from there the market will determine value.

I burned a few BTC because of the potential but I also dont think that it is a $100M cap just yet for a software in an alpha stage. patience is virtue.
I am estimating current fairmarket value at around $20 million USD. Nowhere close to $100M. That sort of valuation will have to wait until all the usual stuff is completed and we are on at least a second tier exchange.

There are thousands of people who burned BTC and I think it is important to be realistic. To be able to trade intelligently, people need a rational valuation. I am open to other valuation models. So far, two totally different methods both come to around the same value of $20 million USD.

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February 03, 2014, 08:11:58 AM
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I'm kind of surprised at the low trading activity so far.  Only 800 XCP traded in 4 transactions on the google doc, and only 11 XCP traded in 2 transactions on the Counterparty distributed exchange.


I've got 800 XCP available for 8 btc.

I'm working on putting these XCP on the distributed exchange now.  I'm also willing to trade directly for btc in small increments.


All you need to receive the XCP is a Bitcoin address.  No need to install client or anything.  You can create a blockchain.info wallet and receive XCP on that address.
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February 03, 2014, 08:28:42 AM
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I'm kind of surprised at the low trading activity so far.  Only 800 XCP traded in 4 transactions on the google doc, and only 11 XCP traded in 2 transactions on the Counterparty distributed exchange.


I've got 800 XCP available for 8 btc.

I'm working on putting these XCP on the distributed exchange now.  I'm also willing to trade directly for btc in small increments.


All you need to receive the XCP is a Bitcoin address.  No need to install client or anything.  You can create a blockchain.info wallet and receive XCP on that address.
Sudden change in price is giving people pause, people just need to better understand what XCP represents. Maybe lurkers are waiting for a panic sell Smiley

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February 03, 2014, 08:32:34 AM
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jl777 please stop all your junk. This is pathetic.
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February 03, 2014, 08:38:11 AM
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jl777 please stop all your junk. This is pathetic.
Hello Mr. mastercoin troll. Was wondering how long it will take.
Up for a feature by feature comparison of mastercoin and XCP? I still cant figure out what mastercoin does.

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February 03, 2014, 08:45:22 AM
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Ho I see... But I'm heavily invested in XCP too. So argument invalid.
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February 03, 2014, 08:56:03 AM
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Oh hi

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February 03, 2014, 09:06:41 AM
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Ho I see... But I'm heavily invested in XCP too. So argument invalid.
? You say I am pathetic and I am writing junk. That is standard troll behavior, sorry to make a mistake about that. I hope you can be civilized.

Did I make a math error? Did I make a false assumption somewhere. What part of what I wrote is junk? I make mistakes and would like to correct anything that is wrong.

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February 03, 2014, 09:07:52 AM
Last edit: February 03, 2014, 09:48:24 AM by qtgwith
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we are getting ahead of ourselves with valuations and market caps. Let the client roll, let the people learn about this and the market will determine cap.

There cant be and there isnt any cartel as even if people wanted this, it is not realistic.

XCP should start trading on exchanges and from there the market will determine value.

I burned a few BTC because of the potential but I also dont think that it is a $100M cap just yet for a software in an alpha stage. patience is virtue.
Mastercoin has nothing but some ideas(whitepaper).It's marketcap is about $70M-$80M for a long time.
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