Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread

[leea-1334]

Come on Tottenham, what is wrong with you

Arsenal have only lost three games general all season, but if you factor in the possibility of a draw, the picture is different. Incidentally, the first game against Chelsea also ended in a draw. But maybe I'm exaggerating (because I don't want City to be at the top again) after all, there are 16 points between the teams plus the home advantage - on paper it should mean a home win.
Bloody City don't drop points even when their opponents are playing well (like Leeds), but at least they print money for me:

Sometimes I wonder what is the effectiveness of such statistics in a season, especially if you take into account weird decisions and VAR and small refereeing points, but respect should be given to Arsenal,,, if you remember their first loss was also to an unstoppable goal from Liverpool when that was supposed to be a draw.

Manchester City, the team who always buys the right players at the right time. Imagine if they dit not get Semenyo!

[KTChampions]

Come on Tottenham, what is wrong with you

Arsenal have only lost three games general all season, but if you factor in the possibility of a draw, the picture is different. Incidentally, the first game against Chelsea also ended in a draw. But maybe I'm exaggerating (because I don't want City to be at the top again) after all, there are 16 points between the teams plus the home advantage - on paper it should mean a home win.
Bloody City don't drop points even when their opponents are playing well (like Leeds), but at least they print money for me:

Sometimes I wonder what is the effectiveness of such statistics in a season, especially if you take into account weird decisions and VAR and small refereeing points, but respect should be given to Arsenal,,, if you remember their first loss was also to an unstoppable goal from Liverpool when that was supposed to be a draw.

Manchester City, the team who always buys the right players at the right time. Imagine if they dit not get Semenyo!

If you look at last season, you might think that Tottenham is now only aiming for the European Cup 

Arsenal's statistics are justified, I remember at the beginning of the season they had an incredible number of clean sheets, it was not a coincidence.
I disagree about City, their strength is much broader – they can buy players using the Monte Carlo method, then sell them, then buy new ones, and so on until they achieve results. This is exactly what we're seeing, and it's no surprise the results are good.

United also printing:

[Ryu_Ar1]

How not to be frustrated with Unai... after he was firmly in second place but the decline continued due to poor performance, I'm not sure what affected Aston Villa to lose to the relegation team, here we are upset because we bet Aston Villa to win.

Chelsea seemed to be given no chance at home to Arsenal... I think tonight will be the same.
Spurs won't win... Manchester United will win against Palace.

Their poor run of results has been a boon for Manchester United at the moment and look who under Carrick they are currently in 3rd place after today's win.

For Arsenal and Chelsea I expected this result although there were some things that were quite controversial for me in this match but I did expect a score like this.
One thing is for sure their set pieces are still quite annoying.

For Manchester City they have 3 points but I don't feel they are improving in terms of form at the moment.

[un_rank]

Carrick is showing out Amorim with how he has handled the team. Not just about the results but also the way they play against different opponents using the exact crop of players that Amorim could not motivate to play for the team. At this rate I think he will be giving the job full-time from next season which is when the real pressure will begin and we can properly check how good Carrick can be.Derby wins are always enjoyable even when the performances are not the best and those wins have been coming consistently against Chelsea and Spurs for several seasons now. Focus now shift to Brighthon.

- Jay -

[buwaytress]

Didn't watch so maybe I shouldn't comment, but very disappointed to come back and see Chelsea gave Arsenal all the points. Plenty of yellow cards too, so there is that at least. And oh, it helps us (Liverpool) in our fight for the top 4... but still.

KTChampions, I am no longer betting properly these days, but I can tell you're showing Poly slips. I haven't made comparisons but it seems logical they have the lowest juice (if it's P2P-esque as I'm led to believe). Is this correct?

[igebotz]

Derby wins are always enjoyable even when the performances are not the best and those wins have been coming consistently against Chelsea and Spurs for several seasons now. Focus now shift to Brighthon.

Lucky Arsenal- VAR didn't come to work today. The way the Refs constantly give us a Red card every time we're back into games against Arsenal needs to be studied. Neto wasn't even aware of the first booking; how do you book someone without letting them know?

He only heard it from the 4th official after he was sent off. I know he got it from the Arsenal second goal reaction.

[KTChampions]

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KTChampions, I am no longer betting properly these days, but I can tell you're showing Poly slips. I haven't made comparisons but it seems logical they have the lowest juice (if it's P2P-esque as I'm led to believe). Is this correct?

Yes, the spread is 1%, which is very pleasing. Today I watched the odds both on the poly and on the traditional bookmaker and almost always all the line outcomes (x1-draw-x2, there are handicaps and totals, etc., but I followed these) were more profitable to buy on the poly. It’s not that the difference is significant, but we understand that there is a fight for every percentage point.
As I understand it, the situation may be different in low-liquidity markets (to the point where you can buy a hedge bet with a guaranteed profit or, conversely, see only bad quotes), but I'm not delving into exotic things yet.

[leea-1334]

How not to be frustrated with Unai... after he was firmly in second place but the decline continued due to poor performance, I'm not sure what affected Aston Villa to lose to the relegation team, here we are upset because we bet Aston Villa to win.

Chelsea seemed to be given no chance at home to Arsenal... I think tonight will be the same.
Spurs won't win... Manchester United will win against Palace.

Because to even get top 4 is a big expectation, and to be there while still playing in Europe is also a great achievement,,, for a team with almost no superstars, disappointed yes but not frustrated

If you look at last season, you might think that Tottenham is now only aiming for the European Cup 

Arsenal's statistics are justified, I remember at the beginning of the season they had an incredible number of clean sheets, it was not a coincidence.
I disagree about City, their strength is much broader – they can buy players using the Monte Carlo method, then sell them, then buy new ones, and so on until they achieve results. This is exactly what we're seeing, and it's no surprise the results are good.

How sad to be competing against teams that money is free and no need to be borrowed, unlike other clubs who must pay it back,,, terrible modern football but we have what we have  

[igebotz]

How sad to be competing against teams that money is free and no need to be borrowed, unlike other clubs who must pay it back,,, terrible modern football but we have what we have 

Is this even a valid excuse? You club spent almost €200m last summer for new players; that's more than what Sunderland and Brentford spent respectively last summer. No one is asking you to compete but at least the players should show some mentality and stay in the top 10 at least. You cannot spend that much and finish in the second part of the table.. 

[leea-1334]

How sad to be competing against teams that money is free and no need to be borrowed, unlike other clubs who must pay it back,,, terrible modern football but we have what we have 

Is this even a valid excuse? You club spent almost €200m last summer for new players; that's more than what Sunderland and Brentford spent respectively last summer. No one is asking you to compete but at least the players should show some mentality and stay in the top 10 at least. You cannot spend that much and finish in the second part of the table.. 

I was not complaining about spending money,,, I was saying it is different to borrow money or invest money that needs to be paid back, versus spending free money that is not expected to be returned

It is very different expectations and conditions when spending money, depending on source.

I am 100% with you agreeing that we have no excuse tho, this is not about my club but about the league in general  

[buwaytress]

Only noticed now it's a good week to be City, Liverpool or United. Chelsea should beat Villa -- opening up more room up there in that congested spot to fit in even more of us. Still think Villa's got legs though, and could push Chelsea further out. We have to do our job though, double header against what seems to be a strangely motivated Wolves!

[igebotz]

I was not complaining about spending money,,, I was saying it is different to borrow money or invest money that needs to be paid back, versus spending free money that is not expected to be returned

It is very different expectations and conditions when spending money, depending on source.

I am 100% with you agreeing that we have no excuse tho, this is not about my club but about the league in general 

Now, I understand your point, but I would argue that clubs that borrow to spend should have a monster mentality and play better than those that receive free money; in school, students whose parents borrowed to send them to school typically perform better academically than children from free money backgrounds 

BTW, a club is a business, and every business requires borrowing, not because you don't have enough, but sometimes to avoid taxes.

The premier league is so tiring, while other leagues are already on small CL vacation, PL clubs are playing 3 times every week.

[darxiaomi]

How many bets fucked Leeds today?

I mean Leeds on Ellan road was doing magnificent games against big teams so why not to trust them against Sunderland? Seems like they cant be trusted on their home again.

In other things, what is happening with Wolves? Man until now they are getting a draw against Liverpool. Seems like they wake up, but is super late man, the train has departed and they are inside, the train now goes to championship.

[KTChampions]

How many bets fucked Leeds today?

I mean Leeds on Ellan road was doing magnificent games against big teams so why not to trust them against Sunderland? Seems like they cant be trusted on their home again.

In other things, what is happening with Wolves? Man until now they are getting a draw against Liverpool. Seems like they wake up, but is super late man, the train has departed and they are inside, the train now goes to championship.

I don't think it was much, after all, Sunderland surprised a lot more at the start of the season, I don't think Leeds' victory today looked secure or even visible from afar.
But I have questions about Liverpool!  After the second half, when I thought the odds had risen enough, I bet on Liverpool. And lo and behold, they lost the game. Thankfully, Barcelona's win compensated me their loss.

[igebotz]

Well, Liverpool got their own taste of Wolves "resurrection power" - if they keep up like this, they might stay up if the clubs in their front keep crumbling.

A few good results and Liverpool fans forgot how terrible Slot is, and has been through out the season; it feels so good when you have this Liverpool side and Manchester United as rivals for the top 4 spots. No pressure.

[leea-1334]

I was not complaining about spending money,,, I was saying it is different to borrow money or invest money that needs to be paid back, versus spending free money that is not expected to be returned

It is very different expectations and conditions when spending money, depending on source.

I am 100% with you agreeing that we have no excuse tho, this is not about my club but about the league in general 

Now, I understand your point, but I would argue that clubs that borrow to spend should have a monster mentality and play better than those that receive free money; in school, students whose parents borrowed to send them to school typically perform better academically than children from free money backgrounds 

BTW, a club is a business, and every business requires borrowing, not because you don't have enough, but sometimes to avoid taxes.

The premier league is so tiring, while other leagues are already on small CL vacation, PL clubs are playing 3 times every week.

+100000 bro,,, the school example really rung through, if you wanted to see who gave the best work, it was always the kids with borrowed books from the school programme or using the uniform of their older siblings.

Unfortunately,,,, hard work alone was not enough, the rich kids parents could send them to extra tuition, tennis classes, and give them good food, so the rich students knew all the exam tricks, had the best teachers in tuition so knew all the work, and won more awards because they were also good at sports

So in this same example,,, the kids who borrowed, end up worse than the ones who never have to pay anything back and the rich kids make big loans like you said to avoid taxes, and earn more while poor kids borrow to pay for medical operations and break their heads at 60 to make payments  

[buwaytress]

Well, Liverpool got their own taste of Wolves "resurrection power" - if they keep up like this, they might stay up if the clubs in their front keep crumbling.

A few good results and Liverpool fans forgot how terrible Slot is, and has been through out the season; it feels so good when you have this Liverpool side and Manchester United as rivals for the top 4 spots. No pressure.

I don't think anyone supporting them has forgotten. Our friend CLS63 is always reminding us anyway haha.

Enjoy this miserable crop of Reds (both Liverpool and United). We have about ten matches left. I was hoping for a strong finish but only Klopp was able to conjure mentality monsters. What I saw last night was scared yearlings afraid to lose to a team surely relegated despite their own late revival.

[BABY SHOES]

But I have questions about Liverpool!  After the second half, when I thought the odds had risen enough, I bet on Liverpool. And lo and behold, they lost the game. Thankfully, Barcelona's win compensated me their loss.

I didn't see the Wolves - Liverpool match because I was too focused on seeing Barcelona catch up with Atletico Madrid... because at the beginning I thought Liverpool would win and not be like Aston Villa, but this result was surprising after seeing the data at the end.

The same bet was ruined by Liverpool not winning, we are already happy that Evetorn - Barcelona won, it's just a matter of waiting for Liverpool, it's a mistake we didn't make a single bet.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

So after last nights humiliation away at Wolves, I move on to tonights games. I think I'm going to have to support Aston Villa against Chelsea. I just need Liverpool to finish in the top 5 and get CL football. Hopefully Chelsea just continue to drop points because under Slot we are not going to go on a long winning run.

I will be cheering on Newcastle against Man Utd too but I am not feeling very confident about that one. Carrick seems to have found a way to get them winning.

[darbitmobilerecovery]

I don't think it was much, after all, Sunderland surprised a lot more at the start of the season, I don't think Leeds' victory today looked secure or even visible from afar.
But I have questions about Liverpool!  After the second half, when I thought the odds had risen enough, I bet on Liverpool. And lo and behold, they lost the game. Thankfully, Barcelona's win compensated me their loss.

You are right about it was not "secure" since Leeds still is a mid lower table team, but in Ellan Road for the last matches there they were quite good and also beat some big teams there so i was expecting more from them, plus also the bookies give them a 1.8 odds and Sunderland had 4.5 or soemthing like that.

But well we all know this Premier League has been a complete mess and all the teams are super irregular no matter what.