Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread

[darbitmobilerecovery]

Not a bad result for West Ham in their yesterday game against Crystal Palace, i mean Crystal is not in their best as we can see but still an away game for West Ham and every point counts in the fight for relegation so i feel like it was a good point for them, Totenham didnt cut any point in this round so you are still ahead of them, next 2 rounds are gonna be critical, seems like Leeds is gonna be safe, and the battle is gonna be between Forest Spurs and Hammers only.

[leea-1334]

Leeds and Nottingham Forest going into good form right when we needed them to lose bad form. I think I already said a few weeks ago, count Leeds out, we need Nottingham and West Ham to make mistakes but so far none are doing so. The deadline is closer and closer and we have to accept the hard and painful truth about our situation.

Leeds? I haven't mentioned them in my post.
I only stated United could have been right up there in the the title race.... if not for Amorim.
It's of course just a what if scenario but still.

Ya I know,,, it was referencing my own post from me from 2 weeks ago considering the chances of Spurs, and that was to hope that Leeds, Nottingham and West Ham are the ones making the mistake. I think Leeds is gone from that list now, Nottingham also moving further way,,, now left West Ham, who is within reach. We still need to WIN games though.

According to reports he felt discomfort in his thigh a few days before the game it was more of a precautionary move to protect him. It was a big miss especially when the only backup was Delap who is on a 20+ games goal droughts.

That was a crucial thing to happen for us in BSFL who went for Chelsea

Arsenal are disgusting to everyone, but City are even more disgusting, I'll hope for a miracle.

There is 1 more miracle from mathematical perspective,,, Manchester United  

[igebotz]

Totteham was not this bad the last time they lost 13 games in a row; at least they were scoring goals.

Give this current Chelsea team 10 more games and we'll be relegated 100% - luckily, we only have 4 games remaining to finish 13th or 14th. I hope the American owners are pleased with themselves for running the team into the ground.

[Ryu_Ar1]

But when Manchester City win again it looks like fans from Chelsea and Tottenham will actually be happy because one of my friends is a Chelsea supporter and from the beginning he always said it was better for other clubs to win than to see Arsenal get the trophy   Now we just have to see how Manchester City's 1 match postponement will change the flow.

Why the hell do Chelsea fans always not want the Gooners to get the title? How hurt are they that they are not willing to give it to Arsenal?
It's like there's an old grudge... hehe Chelsea fans are here saying the same thing, with the desire for Arsenal not to get the title.

We should ask this to @igebotz as one of the representatives
But if you look at the perception of my friend in the end this refers to the club that is in the London team considering this rivalry of course Chelsea fans do not want to see Arsenal at a point where they lose badly besides that in my country at this time Arsenal fans are too noisy lol.

As for the Champions League, I expect Atletico to win, it's time to update this damn scenario with the same pool of teams 

With the current form and characteristics of both clubs I feel that both legs will be boring if both clubs park the bus and play it safe.
Atletico have changed their ways a bit this season but Arsenal look like they will always do that if Arteta doesn't learn from his mistakes.

[goodpunt]

Arsenal are disgusting to everyone, but City are even more disgusting, I'll hope for a miracle. And objectively speaking, the title is far from decided. If I remember correctly, City's title odds were often in the 8.0-11.0 range throughout the season, so whoever was betting on them back then is probably very happy now.
As for the Champions League, I expect Atletico to win, it's time to update this damn scenario with the same pool of teams 

OK now I regret it even more double digits on Man City should have been a no-brainer.
I agree both teams are disgusting but I feel City is still the lesser evil...somehow
Actually don't like any of the remaining Champions League semifinalists but I would give a slight edge to Bayern but won't be involved with any bets.

Ya I know,,, it was referencing my own post from me from 2 weeks ago considering the chances of Spurs, and that was to hope that Leeds, Nottingham and West Ham are the ones making the mistake. I think Leeds is gone from that list now, Nottingham also moving further way,,, now left West Ham, who is within reach. We still need to WIN games though.

In any case it should be a nerve wracking battle until the final gameweek

[KTChampions]

Daaaamn  Chelsea are breaking records, but not in the way their fans expect 

But today I learned that Chelsea still has a good chance of qualifying for the Champions League, but several conditions need to be met:

1. Win the battle for sixth place.
2. Aston Villa must finish fifth.
3. Aston Villa must win the Europa League.

But this scheme has a huge drawback: the Liverpool - Chelsea game, where Chelsea must simultaneously win to avoid losing 6th place, but also lose for Liverpool to help them overtake Aston Villa.

[leea-1334]

You have to feel bad for teams like Arsenal and Liverpool,,, they seem to be getting either bad or negative news, not directly, but more like criticism.

And yet teams like my own and Chelsea are actually doing very badly.

And more to the point, teams like Aston Villa and Brighton are pushing for Europe but getting almost no coverage. What is going on here,,, media is totally missing the positivie stories  

But this scheme has a huge drawback: the Liverpool - Chelsea game, where Chelsea must simultaneously win to avoid losing 6th place, but also lose for Liverpool to help them overtake Aston Villa.

@KTChampions this match is either 0-0 or 3-3 to show how both teams cannot score or cannot defend  

[KTChampions]

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And more to the point, teams like Aston Villa and Brighton are pushing for Europe but getting almost no coverage. What is going on here,,, media is totally missing the positivie stories  
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You have noticed that correctly. It's as if, apart from the failed favourites (Arsenal, City, Liverpool, Chelsea, and, yes, Tottenham, which started to go downhill even compared to last season), no one else exists. But as a United fan, I disagree with this depressing picture. Beyond United's rise in the competition, for example, the greatness of Fernandes is becoming increasingly clear, with him poised to set a new Premier League assists record for the season, currently at 18 and a record of 20.

But this scheme has a huge drawback: the Liverpool - Chelsea game, where Chelsea must simultaneously win to avoid losing 6th place, but also lose for Liverpool to help them overtake Aston Villa.

@KTChampions this match is either 0-0 or 3-3 to show how both teams cannot score or cannot defend  

It's an easy 0-0 choice, Chelsea stopped scoring goals 

[darxiaomi]

Daaaamn  Chelsea are breaking records, but not in the way their fans expect 

But today I learned that Chelsea still has a good chance of qualifying for the Champions League, but several conditions need to be met:

1. Win the battle for sixth place.
2. Aston Villa must finish fifth.
3. Aston Villa must win the Europa League.

But this scheme has a huge drawback: the Liverpool - Chelsea game, where Chelsea must simultaneously win to avoid losing 6th place, but also lose for Liverpool to help them overtake Aston Villa.

Great analisys, i think most of it are possible, but the main thing still Chelsea itself, i mean they are really bad right now and doesnt seems like they can improve their performance soon.

I dont see the problem of them winning that game, is not the same Aston in 4 or in fift position? The spot if they win europa league is gonna be for the next in the table, the only thing is the extra preliminar UCL stage.

[KTChampions]

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I dont see the problem of them winning that game, is not the same Aston in 4 or in fift position? The spot if they win europa league is gonna be for the next in the table, the only thing is the extra preliminar UCL stage.

UEFA is constantly changing the system (plus it’s initially complicated for such a crowd of teams) I’m not sure I fully understand it myself 
As I understand it, the nuance is this:

If Aston Villa is sixth or lower and wins the Europa League, then the Premier League gets six tickets (as in Tottenham's case last year).

If Aston Villa is in the top 4 and wins the Europa League, the Premier League gets 5 tickets, and one bonus ticket (for the Europa League-winning team) goes to the highest-ranked (by UEFA) team from preliminar UCL stage (currently Benfica).

If Aston Villa wins the Europa League and finishes 5th, they receive a ticket to the Champions League as the Europa League winner, and the bonus fifth ticket goes to the 6th-placed team in the Premier League.

The point is that the 5th ticket is a bonus for the League and cannot be lost.

[buwaytress]

Chelsea, who can they get next? Can I sign up? I will play 6-3-1 and lose the job after 5 games, but I will be a rich man after compensation. Igebotz can you talk to your guy? I'll be Chelski forever if they let me manage.

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And more to the point, teams like Aston Villa and Brighton are pushing for Europe but getting almost no coverage. What is going on here,,, media is totally missing the positivie stories  
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You have noticed that correctly. It's as if, apart from the failed favourites (Arsenal, City, Liverpool, Chelsea, and, yes, Tottenham, which started to go downhill even compared to last season), no one else exists. But as a United fan, I disagree with this depressing picture. Beyond United's rise in the competition, for example, the greatness of Fernandes is becoming increasingly clear, with him poised to set a new Premier League assists record for the season, currently at 18 and a record of 20.

My man KTChamps! I had no idea you were (or somehow maybe forgot) that you were a Red Devil -- like my son, heh. And you are both on the nail, a reminder why we shouldn't always read the news but let our own eyes tell the stories.

Villa and Brighton possibly ending in Champions League spots ahead of Liverpool and Chelsea (while Villa also still in their respective European competition) should be one of the biggest ongoing stories of this season. Fernandes? Great guy, when he's not drooping his shoulders. Annoyed me a lot during Amorin and even ETH eras to see a great player with poor body language. Pleased for his progress... hope his peak lasts a couple more years minimum.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Daaaamn  Chelsea are breaking records, but not in the way their fans expect 

But today I learned that Chelsea still has a good chance of qualifying for the Champions League, but several conditions need to be met:

1. Win the battle for sixth place.
2. Aston Villa must finish fifth.
3. Aston Villa must win the Europa League.

But this scheme has a huge drawback: the Liverpool - Chelsea game, where Chelsea must simultaneously win to avoid losing 6th place, but also lose for Liverpool to help them overtake Aston Villa.

I think Chelsea are done in the race for CL qualification now. They are already 7 points behind and Liverpool have played a game less. Chelsea should be looking below them, rather than above. If they don’t fix up then they could end up 10th or something ridiculous.

[BABY SHOES]

I think Chelsea are done in the race for CL qualification now. They are already 7 points behind and Liverpool have played a game less. Chelsea should be looking below them, rather than above. If they don’t fix up then they could end up 10th or something ridiculous.

Don't expect Chelsea to enter the Champion League because they have too many points to that place, plus this poor performance without goals is really unexpected.

Liam was sacked... Chelsea must compensate €24M

Chelsea is on the verge of uncertainty, the management may hire a new coach, but not sure it will solve the problem with a few games left... maybe the interim coach is the solution.

If you think about it, Arne Snoult is better than Liam the teacher.

[igebotz]

Chelsea, who can they get next? Can I sign up? I will play 6-3-1 and lose the job after 5 games, but I will be a rich man after compensation. Igebotz can you talk to your guy? I'll be Chelski forever if they let me manage.

No, you need to be doing well at your current place before you can get hired,  the owners are only interested in ruining young managers career - they took Porter from his comfort zone and ruined him, took Enzo Maresca from his comfort zone and ruined him, took Liam from his comfort zone and ruined him..

The next mission is looking for another young manager to ruin - if the owners are serious about changing path, they have to hire an experienced manager to start with.

Liam was sacked... Chelsea must compensate €24M

No, there was a break clause in his contract; means lower compensation.

[KTChampions]

You have noticed that correctly. It's as if, apart from the failed favourites (Arsenal, City, Liverpool, Chelsea, and, yes, Tottenham, which started to go downhill even compared to last season), no one else exists. But as a United fan, I disagree with this depressing picture. Beyond United's rise in the competition, for example, the greatness of Fernandes is becoming increasingly clear, with him poised to set a new Premier League assists record for the season, currently at 18 and a record of 20.

My man KTChamps! I had no idea you were (or somehow maybe forgot) that you were a Red Devil -- like my son, heh. And you are both on the nail, a reminder why we shouldn't always read the news but let our own eyes tell the stories.

Villa and Brighton possibly ending in Champions League spots ahead of Liverpool and Chelsea (while Villa also still in their respective European competition) should be one of the biggest ongoing stories of this season. Fernandes? Great guy, when he's not drooping his shoulders. Annoyed me a lot during Amorin and even ETH eras to see a great player with poor body language. Pleased for his progress... hope his peak lasts a couple more years minimum.

This is good news actually, I thought I was boring everyone back in the ETH days with whining about all this crap 
I don’t know what you didn’t like about Bruno, he was always consistently good in the national team. I'd like to see the body language of KDB, Salah, Saka and anyone else at United in crisis, I don't think they would have kept up.

Meanwhile, City burned their game against Burnley just for +1... it seems like the result is in Arsenal's favor 

[leea-1334]

You have noticed that correctly. It's as if, apart from the failed favourites (Arsenal, City, Liverpool, Chelsea, and, yes, Tottenham, which started to go downhill even compared to last season), no one else exists. But as a United fan, I disagree with this depressing picture. Beyond United's rise in the competition, for example, the greatness of Fernandes is becoming increasingly clear, with him poised to set a new Premier League assists record for the season, currently at 18 and a record of 20.

Exactly! I agree they are important points of discussion but as an objective sports person we accept that it is natural for all teams and athletes to have ups and downs, but it seems as if the news is more interested in down.

I would be very much interested to read about analysis for teams like Aston Villa who was a lot criticized early in the season,,, but now they are so improved nobody asks them anything. Or about Brighton who despite losing players and managers always find a way to be so strong up the table.

We should not be depressed all the time. For Tottenham and Chelsea fine we talked about them loads. For Liverpool come on, they were rebuilding and won the title last season is it so bad to be finishing top 5? And we saw good football without results from some players there.

For Manchester United too, from almost relegating and now finishing top 3 possibly,,, without a fixed manager, sounds like good news and positive players too right?

[darbitmobilerecovery]

Why Manchester CIty had to work so much to beat the shit burnley, i was thinking they were gonna destroy the Burnley after the fast goal from Haaland, i think they commited a huge mistake not scoring more goals, Premier League is decided by it and they have the chance of scoring a lot of goals against one of the weakest teams in the league.

It was super strange.

Anyways if you ask me im more into the relegation fight than the top fight.

[rdbase]

Why Manchester CIty had to work so much to beat the shit burnley, i was thinking they were gonna destroy the Burnley after the fast goal from Haaland, i think they commited a huge mistake not scoring more goals, Premier League is decided by it and they have the chance of scoring a lot of goals against one of the weakest teams in the league.

It was super strange.

Anyways if you ask me im more into the relegation fight than the top fight.

They knew that first place could all come down to the goal differential if Arsenal decide to burn the next few teams they face.
Seeing Haaland's interview at the end of their match made it look like that he brushed it off with only saying they won so just be happy.
With Tottenham and West Ham in that fight for being in or out for the next matches it is pivotal to see what transpires for either team.

[buwaytress]

This is good news actually, I thought I was boring everyone back in the ETH days with whining about all this crap 
I don’t know what you didn’t like about Bruno, he was always consistently good in the national team. I'd like to see the body language of KDB, Salah, Saka and anyone else at United in crisis, I don't think they would have kept up.

Love Bruno's technical ability and desire to just play the hard-to-execute pass. It's his mentality you want in a captain I'm calling out. Salah, I have always been one to criticise Salah for the same attitude at times, that body language thing. The difference, though, is Salah isn't a leader on the pitch (or at least, not expected to be, even if they see him as someone to exemplify at training) the way Hendo or VVD was/is. Whereas Bruno wears the armband (I think). If VVD started flapping his arms and whining about a bad ref call or walking about the field lost when your team is badly down instead of shouting down his teammates to stay focused, I'd be the first to shit on him

[BABY SHOES]

Why Manchester CIty had to work so much to beat the shit burnley, i was thinking they were gonna destroy the Burnley after the fast goal from Haaland, i think they commited a huge mistake not scoring more goals, Premier League is decided by it and they have the chance of scoring a lot of goals against one of the weakest teams in the league.

It was super strange.

Anyways if you ask me im more into the relegation fight than the top fight.

They knew that first place could all come down to the goal differential if Arsenal decide to burn the next few teams they face.
Seeing Haaland's interview at the end of their match made it look like that he brushed it off with only saying they won so just be happy.
With Tottenham and West Ham in that fight for being in or out for the next matches it is pivotal to see what transpires for either team.

The first position is tight, while now the goal difference is determined first... while the determination is still a few matches that may be between the two teams there are wins, draws, losses then it is the club that must accept the bitter truth ... Maybe City don't win anything, but for Arsenal this is very painful.

Come on Spurs... there are still 5 more matches, I think you can pass this deadly test.
Spurs fans please be a little patient.