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[pavan@hosur]

Just to keep that conversation going – u guys think there's a coin that's profitable to mine? I reckon it's better to just buy them from an exchange.

[whotheff]

Just to keep that conversation going – u guys think there's a coin that's profitable to mine? I reckon it's better to just buy them from an exchange.

No coin is profitable to mine these days (unless you have free hardware or electricity).

[SPQRCoin]

I now do not understand why we need mobile versions of wallets at all. Coins from the smartphone no one is calculated. Keeping your savings on a smartphone is not safe.

I totally agree! Applications that run on Android, ios mobile systems are much more insecure than regular computer applications. Such a wallet is more like the image of the project, no more.

[whotheff]

I now do not understand why we need mobile versions of wallets at all. Coins from the smartphone no one is calculated. Keeping your savings on a smartphone is not safe.

I totally agree! Applications that run on Android, ios mobile systems are much more insecure than regular computer applications. Such a wallet is more like the image of the project, no more.

I agree about the insecurity part. But that does not mean you can't have two wallets - a more secure one and a mobile one.
That way you can fund your mobile one securely, without risking too much.

[TasosRiv]

I now do not understand why we need mobile versions of wallets at all. Coins from the smartphone no one is calculated. Keeping your savings on a smartphone is not safe.

I totally agree! Applications that run on Android, ios mobile systems are much more insecure than regular computer applications. Such a wallet is more like the image of the project, no more.

I don't think this is true. There are more viruses targeting Windows than there is targeting Android and iOS. iOS especially is a very closed software, it's much more secure than Windows.
For Android, it depends on many factors but it's usually safe if you don't install apps outside the appstore.

But in Windows many people run a miner in the same PC they have their wallets, most (if not all) of the fastest miners are closed source, so that's one big risk.
Another difference is that by default the Windows wallet is not encrypted, users must choose to encrypt their wallets so that 3rd party software can't read the wallet's info, including the private key. But on Android one app can't access the data of the other app, as far as I know the only interaction that is allowed between apps are the "intents" which basely sends you to the other app in order to complete an action.

[DonProton]

Could you tell me POS staking is already active in the XDNA? If for example I do not have 1000 coins for launching masternode, but there are 500 or for example 700 I can run POS and receive coins from it? How to do it and what is the size of the reward?

[thd26bct]

I now do not understand why we need mobile versions of wallets at all. Coins from the smartphone no one is calculated. Keeping your savings on a smartphone is not safe.

I totally agree! Applications that run on Android, ios mobile systems are much more insecure than regular computer applications. Such a wallet is more like the image of the project, no more.

I remembered that I read somewhere that there are dominant crypto enthusiast who tend to use mobile devices for their daily activities, including finding, searching, reading news of crypto, of course.
So, in a nutshell, it's good to know XDNA focuses on Android and mobile dapps, and wallet version at first.

[TasosRiv]

Could you tell me POS staking is already active in the XDNA? If for example I do not have 1000 coins for launching masternode, but there are 500 or for example 700 I can run POS and receive coins from it? How to do it and what is the size of the reward?

Currently there's no PoS (staking) rewards. There's a PoS planned for the future but that will be in about two years (after block 1.440.000).
In the meantime, if you'd prefer to use only 700 XDNA for rewards, you could use them in a shared masternode serivce. However we're not affiliated with any such service and you should be careful if you decide to choose one.

[TasosRiv]

I now do not understand why we need mobile versions of wallets at all. Coins from the smartphone no one is calculated. Keeping your savings on a smartphone is not safe.

I totally agree! Applications that run on Android, ios mobile systems are much more insecure than regular computer applications. Such a wallet is more like the image of the project, no more.

I remembered that I read somewhere that there are dominant crypto enthusiast who tend to use mobile devices for their daily activities, including finding, searching, reading news of crypto, of course.
So, in a nutshell, it's good to know XDNA focuses on Android and mobile dapps, and wallet version at first.

Personally I'm investing in the US stock market as well, and for this purpose I'm using 100% my phone. All my notes, graphs, trend-lines are drawn there.
So I'm sure the much simpler tasks of a cryptocurrency wallet can be run by anyone as the main wallet!

[SPQRCoin]

I now do not understand why we need mobile versions of wallets at all. Coins from the smartphone no one is calculated. Keeping your savings on a smartphone is not safe.

I totally agree! Applications that run on Android, ios mobile systems are much more insecure than regular computer applications. Such a wallet is more like the image of the project, no more.

I don't think this is true. There are more viruses targeting Windows than there is targeting Android and iOS. iOS especially is a very closed software, it's much more secure than Windows.
For Android, it depends on many factors but it's usually safe if you don't install apps outside the appstore.

But in Windows many people run a miner in the same PC they have their wallets, most (if not all) of the fastest miners are closed source, so that's one big risk.
Another difference is that by default the Windows wallet is not encrypted, users must choose to encrypt their wallets so that 3rd party software can't read the wallet's info, including the private key. But on Android one app can't access the data of the other app, as far as I know the only interaction that is allowed between apps are the "intents" which basely sends you to the other app in order to complete an action.

What are you saying? The appstore had no applications that perform destructive or fraudulent actions? LOL
If I want to run an unknown application on my computer, I deploy the virtual machine without risking anything. I remain at the opinion about comparison of safety of computer OS and mobile systems.

[TasosRiv]

I now do not understand why we need mobile versions of wallets at all. Coins from the smartphone no one is calculated. Keeping your savings on a smartphone is not safe.

I totally agree! Applications that run on Android, ios mobile systems are much more insecure than regular computer applications. Such a wallet is more like the image of the project, no more.

I don't think this is true. There are more viruses targeting Windows than there is targeting Android and iOS. iOS especially is a very closed software, it's much more secure than Windows.
For Android, it depends on many factors but it's usually safe if you don't install apps outside the appstore.

But in Windows many people run a miner in the same PC they have their wallets, most (if not all) of the fastest miners are closed source, so that's one big risk.
Another difference is that by default the Windows wallet is not encrypted, users must choose to encrypt their wallets so that 3rd party software can't read the wallet's info, including the private key. But on Android one app can't access the data of the other app, as far as I know the only interaction that is allowed between apps are the "intents" which basely sends you to the other app in order to complete an action.

What are you saying? The appstore had no applications that perform destructive or fraudulent actions? LOL
If I want to run an unknown application on my computer, I deploy the virtual machine without risking anything. I remain at the opinion about comparison of safety of computer OS and mobile systems.

I know that the appstore had some bad apps which did some damage before they were detected, which is why I said "usually it's safe". I don't know the exact numbers so I won't persist I'm right, I believe however there are very few cases of such virus-apps.
A virtual machine for PCs is a solution for some trials, but it won't save people from trojans that stay hidden and steal data from a PC. You can't run a miner in a virtual machine forever nor play cracked games from a virtual machine! lol

Let us agree both Androids and Windows have risks and strong points?!

[tor9]

I absolutely agree, the Android system is more prone to hacking
sometimes even new Android devices already have a virus program
so trusting Finance, this device, is not very reasonable

[Tryam93]

In fact, an Android device is safer than Windows. Android is built on a Linux system, it is initially the most secure system. The phone can be hacked only through the installed third-party application that the user installs at your own risk.

[tor9]

In fact, an Android device is safer than Windows. Android is built on a Linux system, it is initially the most secure system. The phone can be hacked only through the installed third-party application that the user installs at your own risk.

I agree that the system may be more secure, but a lot of scammers make seemingly harmless applications-but with built-in virus software that can threaten personal finances

[GucciGangClub]

It seems to me that even without communication with the team, it is clear that XDNA is a very serious and promising project!

If you have not invested in projects that later turned out to be a scam, then you do not know how much is it important while choosing ICO  as a whole.

[DreamerJ]

In fact, an Android device is safer than Windows. Android is built on a Linux system, it is initially the most secure system. The phone can be hacked only through the installed third-party application that the user installs at your own risk.

I agree that the system may be more secure, but a lot of scammers make seemingly harmless applications-but with built-in virus software that can threaten personal finances

Technologies are constantly evolving; therefore it is difficult to say that the project is not completely vulnerable to hacking. However, it is very important that developers devote adequate time to security.

[TasosRiv]

I'd like to quote the tests from an AMD miner using WildRig Multi. I'm only using Nvidia cards so I don't know how good the "7.9~8.6MH/s per RX580" is, but he/she seems excited! ^^

Test RIG x10 Sapphire RX580 Special Editions 1430Mhz/2250Mhz BIOS modded from 1750 timing straps
 * VERSIONS:     WildRig/0.12.0 beta libuv/1.21.0 OpenCL/2.0 MSVC/2015
 * CPU:          Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700K CPU @ 4.20GHz x64 AES-NI

ALGO: HEX  More settings to test and report back on. (ASAP!)

Code:

wildrig.exe --algo hex --opencl-platform=1 --opencl-threads 2 --opencl-launch 23x256 --strategy=0 --multiple-instance  --url= --user=.RX580RIG1 --pass=x --print-full --watchdog

Wildrig-multi is a BEAST at mining HEX Algo !!!

This is twice as fast as SGMiner-HEX (AMD)-v04.R Wildrig miner is a beast for HEX algo.
Im getting about 7.9~8.6MH/s per GPU -- POOL side reporting My Hashrate: 88.85 MH/s

Look at this also. Im finding LOADS of these 2 shares & some found 3 shares at once.

Code:

[19:43:18] GPU #1: yay! found 2 shares at once
[19:43:18] oops, stale share... ignore it
[19:43:18] GPU #9: yay! found 2 shares at once
[19:43:19] GPU #15: yay! found 2 shares at once

Code:

[19:25:16] GPU #0: 10s/60s/15m 8095 8131 n/a kH/s
[19:25:16] GPU #1: 10s/60s/15m 7958 7999 n/a kH/s
[19:25:16] GPU #2: 10s/60s/15m 7981 8013 7562 kH/s
[19:25:16] GPU #3: 10s/60s/15m 7989 8012 7573 kH/s
[19:25:16] GPU #4: 10s/60s/15m 8183 8145 7751 kH/s
[19:25:16] GPU #5: 10s/60s/15m 7952 7963 7552 kH/s
[19:25:16] GPU #6: 10s/60s/15m 8159 8140 7745 kH/s
[19:25:16] GPU #7: 10s/60s/15m 8034 8129 7761 kH/s
[19:25:16] GPU #8: 10s/60s/15m 8288 8284 7782 kH/s
[19:25:16] GPU #9: 10s/60s/15m 7927 8185 7631 kH/s
[19:25:16] speed 10s/60s/15m 80574 81005 69000 kH/s max: 81617 kH/s
[19:25:17] accepted(239/0) diff 82.72M avg. effort 109.48% (14 ms)
[19:25:18] accepted(240/0) diff 82.72M avg. effort 109.32% (14 ms)

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I find " --strategy=0 " is faster than  "--strategy=1" (***For HEX**) But this could be coincidental and a lot more testing many more possible combinations before im 100%
Fastest HEX & X16r algos miner I have found for AMD rigs so far. Excellent work Dev

[dumedoiiph]

In fact, an Android device is safer than Windows. Android is built on a Linux system, it is initially the most secure system. The phone can be hacked only through the installed third-party application that the user installs at your own risk.

Really?
I don't think so.
because it totally depends on the security of each device, and the protection mechanisms users prepared for their devices with antivirus, internet security softwares, etc.
it's hard to jump to conclusion that Android devices are much safer than Windows, or somethiing like that.

[Tryam93]

In fact, an Android device is safer than Windows. Android is built on a Linux system, it is initially the most secure system. The phone can be hacked only through the installed third-party application that the user installs at your own risk.

Really?
I don't think so.
because it totally depends on the security of each device, and the protection mechanisms users prepared for their devices with antivirus, internet security softwares, etc.
it's hard to jump to conclusion that Android devices are much safer than Windows, or somethiing like that.

The matter is that in devices on the basis of the Android operating system many functions are cut, and on Windows these functions open. For example, you can not go to the registry Android device?

[Guardsman]

I think that it makes no sense to argue that it is safer than Windows or Mac, IOS or Android .... Everything is being cracked. It all depends on the level of the one who hacks!