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[Vod]

I lost access to many three high ranked accounts on bitcointalk.  So I tried to purchase some and ended up getting scammed.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4525611.msg40763443#msg40763443

I would of stayed but It will take literally years to rank back up with this merit system.  Even for really good posters it takes ages as the merits being handed out is decreasing each month.

Obviously I can still post and contribute without having a high ranked account.  But it helps to take part in sig campaigns while I'm posting just as many other high ranked posters do.

People like you, who don't care about this forum and only want money, are not wanted here anyway.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out. 

[Vod]

It's easy to say money doesn't matter when you don't have to worry about money.  vod, You've been here since 2011 so I'm sure you don't have to worry about money.

Not the point.  This forum is not about making money.

Myself and many other long term members are working to get rid of shitposters and people that don't get about cryptocurrency.

[Silent26]

I hate to say it but the guy got some point Sir Vod. Maybe yes, this forum really is not about making money, but making money is now part of this forum. Actually, it's okay to earn money here as long as you also contributes in discussions pretty well.

Just an example is me. Yeah, other people can judge me because they might say that I only posts here because of my paid signature campaign in short "To earn money". But actually, even without in any campaign, I still posts because it is my contribution to the forum. I know its easy for you guys to say these words

People like you, who don't care about this forum and only want money, are not wanted here anyway.

because you don't need to earn money for now for some reason that maybe because you have another job or source of income for daily expenses or maybe because you have enough savings to use.

I know some member here also understands my situation, same as to OP. Because most of people here although some Legendary Members and trusted Members also participates in campaigns.
There's nothing wrong to join campaigns isn't Sir? As long as you're not violating any rules and you are doing good contributions.

I acknowledge you Sir, and I acknowledge your words. But sometimes, we really have to do things with our own way.

I have more reasons why I participate campaigns. If I were only a rich guy, I'm pretty sure that I won't spend my time joining these campaigns. But unfortunately, I'm not rich.

https://i.imgur.com/fHKG9X8.jpg
This is my house captured a few days later. I don't know if you guys can still call it "house" but this is where I live. Our kitchen sink just destroyed last night due to its almost years too old (it's just made of bamboo woods). This is my first reason why I participate campaigns, to earn money and to somehow earn money to help my parents from our daily expenses and for repairing our house.
I'm a college student and having side line jobs while in the middle of thesis is pretty insane. That's why sometimes I use this forum to get a little income. Luckily for me, my parents still afford to buy me an Android phone and a Laptop (cheap price) because I really need it for my studies as I'm a computer based course student. I will cut my story here.

Sorry if I'm using the forum to earn money. You guys can judge me now as I tell you my whole story. But I can assure you that these posts I made is also a little contribution to the Forum.

Sorry if I'm already off topic OP.
Sir Vod, I hope you understand us now.   But I totally agree that other members out there only uses this forum to earn money. We can noticed it by their paid sigantures and shitposts.

That's all.

[harryvnn]

I lost access to many three high ranked accounts on bitcointalk.  So I tried to purchase some and ended up getting scammed.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4525611.msg40763443#msg40763443

I would of stayed but It will take literally years to rank back up with this merit system.  Even for really good posters it takes ages as the merits being handed out is decreasing each month.

Obviously I can still post and contribute without having a high ranked account.  But it helps to take part in sig campaigns while I'm posting just as many other high ranked posters do.

U turn to panic now  . Calm down man. You can't earn money when u become crazy and panic.
Actually, its your fault for losing all high ranked account. So you can not blame forum and others. Its also make u got scammed  . Feel sorry for you, man.
Relax, take it easy. U still earn money by other bounty campaign. If you leave now, you earn nothing.
Don't give up, a winner never stop trying.

[TryNinja]

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Who said making money here is something bad? The problem is when you ONLY use this forum to make money. Which is the case in 90% of the new users registering every day.

OP had 3 accounts and tried to buy another one. Do you really think this is the type of user that is going to contribute and learn about cryptos? Hell no. He will just spam the heck of the forum while he tries to milk as much money as possible. And this type of user isn't welcome here.

I'm sorry if you guys need the money to live and feed your family. But spamming isn't the answer. You can earn as much money as possible with your (one) account by helping people and writing constructive posts. But if you are here to lazily spam and copy paste, you will either get a negative trust or a ban. And we won't be sad for you losing your "job".

[xtraelv]

Why would you bother with the risk of getting scammed by an account farmer (and contribute to the account farming and hacking problem) when you can just buy a copper membership.

[Thanasis]

Why would you bother with the risk of getting scammed by an account farmer (and contribute to the account farming and hacking problem) when you can just buy a copper membership.

Copper membership won't increase our ranks or the signature code limits,it just help us to create the threads like a high member ranked account do.
OP's problem is that he can't make money here anymore because he thinks that the ranking to high rank is impossible for the new users.Yes it may takes possible but it will depends on our effort to contribute to the discussion.
So copper membership is not a solution for him.

[Silent26]

Who said making money here is something bad? The problem is when you ONLY use this forum to make money. Which is the case in 90% of the new users registering every day.

OP had 3 accounts and tried to buy another one. Do you really think this is the type of user that is going to contribute and learn about cryptos? Hell no. He will just spam the heck of the forum while he tries to milk as much money as possible. And this type of user isn't welcome here.

I'm sorry if you guys need the money to live and feed your family. But spamming isn't the answer. You can earn as much money as possible with your (one) account by helping people and writing constructive posts. But if you are here to lazily spam and copy paste, you will either get a negative trust or a ban. And we won't be sad for you losing your "job".

Sir, Do you think that my posts are spams? Or they are just fine enough to be called "constructive"? I just really want to know. Because I'm risking my reputation here saying over and over that my posts are not spams. But, I really don't know if you guys accepts my posts and consider it as constructive.

By the way, you're right about what you've said. Also almost 90% of people here really just registered to earn money as their priority, not even worrying about the quality of posts. But I can assure you that I'm different from those people. I earn money by posting Good post as long as I can make it good.

[Vod]

By the way, you're right about what you've said. Also almost 90% of people here really just registered to earn money as their priority, not even worrying about the quality of posts. But I can assure you that I'm different from those people. I earn money by posting Good post as long as I can make it good.

You are the same as them.  If you are posting to earn money, it doesn't matter the quality.  We don't need high quality posts of the same subjects over and over and over...

[Don Pedro Dinero]

You are the same as them.  If you are posting to earn money, it doesn't matter the quality.  We don't need high quality posts of the same subjects over and over and over...

That’s completely new for me. I’d say this guy having earned 61 merits means he has made a good contribution to the forum.

It’s perfectly compatible to want to make money and to be a good forum member.

[Welsh]

By the way, you're right about what you've said. Also almost 90% of people here really just registered to earn money as their priority, not even worrying about the quality of posts. But I can assure you that I'm different from those people. I earn money by posting Good post as long as I can make it good.

I  think that percentage is exaggerated. A lot of the older members here that haven't been hacked registered to learn, and discuss about Bitcoin. Even though I wear a signature today it wasn't the reason I signed up. In fact I don't think they were even a thing back in 2013. I might be wrong there, but they certainly weren't as popular as they are now.  

Plus, if you are posting to earn money then that's part of the problem. They generally aren't quality posts, and just seem constructive at quick glance due to them being longer than the general spam you see. I don't have a problem with people earning on signature campaigns otherwise I would be a hypocrite wouldn't I? However, the attitude is wrong if you are posting to get paid. It should be that you are posting anyway so might as well get paid for it.

The telltale factors of someone posting for money is that during their downtime (when they aren't on a sig) is they don't make anywhere near the amount of posts that they make once they apply, and get accepted on a signature campaign.

Sir, Do you think that my posts are spams? Or they are just fine enough to be called "constructive"? I just really want to know. Because I'm risking my reputation here saying over and over that my posts are not spams. But, I really don't know if you guys accepts my posts and consider it as constructive.

Having said that your posts seem fine, however your likely to get painted with the same brush by a few people if you keep addressing everyone as "sir".

That’s completely new for me. I’d say this guy having earned 61 merits means he has made a good contribution to the forum.

It’s perfectly compatible to want to make money and to be a good forum member.

Yeah, I wouldn't agree with Vod that quality doesn't matter. I don't really care the motives for someone posting as long as it's constructive, and isn't something being rehashed in an attempt to seem constructive or earn merit.

[hilariousetc]

I lost access to my thigh ranked accounts on bitcointalk.  

What is your original account? Did you follow the procedure to recover it?

this forum really is not about making money, but making money is now part of this forum. Actually, it's okay to earn money here as long as you also contributes in discussions pretty well.

I think this is well put. As I've said before, this forum (along with bitcoin) is a victim of its own success and just attracts both the desperate and nefarious. I think it's great that people can a earn here and the money made can actually make a difference to people's lives (I know it has mine), but it's frustrating how it's being exploited by masses of people just crapping up the forum in the laziest and greediest way possible (and it's the campaigns that should be held responsible for this). Whilst this forum isn't about making money, it is a forum about money (and a new type of money) and I don't think we should forget that. Measure should be put in place to try stop the abuses that go on though and I think punishing campaigns that don't do their job would go a long way. I also still think we should introduce paid bitcointalk ranks like Silver and Gold Member that have the same benefit of Seniors and Heroes or whatnot. This would essentially kill account farming and account sales and like the op has already experienced the majority of account sellers are just opportunistic scammers now. Most of them don't even seem to have any accounts for sale and just hope they get someone desperate enough to send them money first. I honestly don't see any negatives about letting users purchase such memberships. The money made could either be used to fund worthwhile projects (I've suggested before a decentralised forum software, a better DDOS-type service or even a bitcointalk seastead/Island) or just give the money to charity. The only people who are going to lose here are account farmers whilst the benefits are numerous.

By the way, you're right about what you've said. Also almost 90% of people here really just registered to earn money as their priority, not even worrying about the quality of posts. But I can assure you that I'm different from those people. I earn money by posting Good post as long as I can make it good.

I  think that percentage is exaggerated.

It's not if you change it to users who now register here or have done over the past five years. I think 90% would then be an understatement. I think people who sign up here now just to earn will dwarf those who actually come here just seeking knowledge or to discuss about bitcoin etc.

[metall140s]

By the way, you're right about what you've said. Also almost 90% of people here really just registered to earn money as their priority, not even worrying about the quality of posts. But I can assure you that I'm different from those people. I earn money by posting Good post as long as I can make it good.

You are the same as them.  If you are posting to earn money, it doesn't matter the quality.  We don't need high quality posts of the same subjects over and over and over...

I agree with the author posting to make good to everyone is one thing. Posting good thing to earn money is quete another. Although it is better than to post with low quality.

[xtraelv]

Sir, Do you think that my posts are spams? Or they are just fine enough to be called "constructive"? I just really want to know. Because I'm risking my reputation here saying over and over that my posts are not spams. But, I really don't know if you guys accepts my posts and consider it as constructive.

By the way, you're right about what you've said. Also almost 90% of people here really just registered to earn money as their priority, not even worrying about the quality of posts. But I can assure you that I'm different from those people. I earn money by posting Good post as long as I can make it good.

Your posts are probably in the top 5% of the posts on this forum. I had a quick look at them and most are fine.
By the look of your merit history you would be on track to rank up with merit around the same time as your activity would allow you to rank up.

[Semosuchi Tesongrato]

I was a bit far from the forum, but I see that the discussions are always the same, as it's always the same the underlying hypocrisy.
If you want to remove the shitposters, simply delete the signature campaigns. That's all.

(The merits are useless, the shitposters that previously made a hundred messages now make a thousand for the same gain)

But of course, the high ranks that with the campaigns make a lot of money don't agree.
I understand this, but at least I'd beg them to  stop making fun of us saying that the forum is not about to make money, that said by those who do it, is ridiculous and annoying.

It's easy to say money doesn't matter when you don't have to worry about money.  vod, You've been here since 2011 so I'm sure you don't have to worry about money.

Not the point.  This forum is not about making money.

Myself and many other long term members are working to get rid of shitposters and people that don't get about cryptocurrency.

[Jet Cash]

You don't have to be a sig spammer to make money as a result of your membership of this forum. I've just sold a Bitcoin domain name, and I've just bought another one. Actually I'm quite excited about that. the name is https://ThermoCoin.com/ , and the idea came from reading posts in this forum. I'm seriously considering using the name to create a new coin, and membership of this forum will be a massive help if I do decide to do that.

[Silent26]

You are the same as them.  If you are posting to earn money, it doesn't matter the quality.  We don't need high quality posts of the same subjects over and over and over...

I'm only posting for money when I'm wearing paid Signature. But either I'm wearing signature or not I still do posting as like what I said earlier, it's my way of contributing to the forum than spamming in Megathreads and etc. I know it's difficult for you guys to understand my situation, for you Vod. But although you guys hate me that much because whenever you see this username Silent26 all that comes to your mind is I'm just here for money.  I won't keep any grudge to all of you.

To what you've just said Vod, I just want to clear, you were saying that a good quality post and a shitpost has no difference at all if they're posted for money. Then you were also pertaining that our efforts are just waste of time  

 
However, the attitude is wrong if you are posting to get paid. It should be that you are posting anyway so might as well get paid for it.

But that's what exactly I'm doing. I'm not posting for money, I'm doing all this for this so called "contribution" that everyone is talking about that most members has been lacking. Yes, I'm participating campaign to earn money but that's not exactly the reason why I'm here. I'm so lucky to be in this forum with all of you as this forum changed my life. Knowledge is the first reason why fate brought me here. Without this forum, I would never ever learned anything about crypto and also, this forum helps me improves my English vocabulary a little. I never talked to English speaker people and didn't even got a gut to defend and construct English words against them before.

A little off topic but when I'm not yet discovering this forum, I thought that Bitcoin is the tokens/chips used in Casino.

 
The telltale factors of someone posting for money is that during their downtime (when they aren't on a sig) is they don't make anywhere near the amount of posts that they make once they apply, and get accepted on a signature campaign.

I agree. But I can assure that I'm not one of them. My signature campaign requires 10 post to complete our job but I posted almost 20 plus starting from 607 posts. I'm not like other people who will just make a exact number of required posts because those just to get paid. I'm posting not worrying about my sig campaign but as a contribution (once again).

But there are times when I'm not getting online (due to studies, thesis, personal problems etc), but either I'm in a campaign or not if I'm really busy doing some important things IRL, I won't really get online. It only means that I doesn't matter and I'm not worrying if I won't get paid.

 
Having said that your posts seem fine, however your likely to get painted with the same brush by a few people if you keep addressing everyone as "sir".

I'm been wondering why some people here are having trouble with that attitude of ours.
I'm sorry but you can't blame me. It's our way of respecting other people usually to strangers. It's been in our tradition that's why we can't help avoiding it.

But starting now I will try not to, for my account's sake of not getting banned but you can't blame me if I accidentally add it to my post. It's my one and only account here that's why I'm taking care of it.

By the way, I'm not having trouble calling Jet Cash as "Sir Jet" so I won't quit calling him that name.

Just look what you've made me to call Vod   I removed the "Sir" before his name. Now I felt so disrespectful  

I'm not a good poster like nullius, iasenko, mdayonliner, theyoungmillionaire and etc. But I'm not a shitposters either. Just refer me to a simple Member who contribute in the forum. I don't need acknowledgement from you guys but it's up to you. Understanding is what I'm (also other members with the same situation as mine) expecting from all of you  

 

That’s completely new for me. I’d say this guy having earned 61 merits means he has made a good contribution to the forum.

It’s perfectly compatible to want to make money and to be a good forum member.

Yeah, I wouldn't agree with Vod that quality doesn't matter. I don't really care the motives for someone posting as long as it's constructive, and isn't something being rehashed in an attempt to seem constructive or earn merit.

Thanks for understanding.

Your posts are probably in the top 5% of the posts on this forum. I had a quick look at them and most are fine.
By the look of your merit history you would be on track to rank up with merit around the same time as your activity would allow you to rank up.

Thanks It's been a long time since someone gave me such a good words

[mdayonliner]

IMO, the OP's stand and Silent26's stand are not comparable.

OP has no intention of caring about the forum...

OP had 3 accounts and tried to buy another one.

However, Silent26 seems contributing for the forum. S/he actually cares about the forum as much as he needs money too (Silent26, I am sorry for the hard life you are experiencing. At some point, we all had it. If you are honest and hard working with strong ethics then things will be changing very soon. It's the rule of the nature).

People like OP are the snake of the forum and people like Silent26 are good asset for the forum.

Update:

I'm not a good poster like nullius, iasenko, mdayliner¹, theyoungmillionaire and etc. But I'm not a shitposters either. Just refer me to a simple Member who contribute in the forum. I don't need acknowledgement from you guys but it's up to you. Understanding is what I'm expecting from all of you  

I think non of us are as good as nullius, s/he is out of our league.

And about me...? I do not think I am that much good as you guys think. I am just a consistent customer, love to involved myself with everything, with most of the topics. I know, I have a lot of problems with grammars, spellings, constructing sentences, choosing words however I am kind of lucky that I live in one of the most economically rich country, regularly visit western countries although I born in eastern culture. It helps when you talk to people with multi-culture in person.

¹mdayonliner

Don't let the door hit you on the way out. 

Could not agree more 
Watch out OP!

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Yeah, I wouldn't agree with Vod that quality doesn't matter. I don't really care the motives for someone posting as long as it's constructive, and isn't something being rehashed in an attempt to seem constructive or earn merit.

Thinking about this post, I’ve just thought about @The Pharmacist. I suppose we all agree that he is a very good/exceptional forum member. He says that he holds no bitcoin because he has to spend what he earns here to cover his living expenses. That means when he is posting here he does so for the money that he needs, and I don’t see anything wrong with it.

[darklus123]

Bye, In behalf of the other users we swear that we will surely not miss a person like you. Purchasing an account for what? oh i see so you could easily get your investment back. well anyways it seems that you doesn't care as long as you can have an easy profit.

[sheenshane]

https://i.imgur.com/fHKG9X8.jpg
This is my house captured a few days later.

Silent26 mate, I am much related on your post we have the same status of life I'm so touched to this photo that to know I'm not alone. Sometimes if I don't have an internet connection I went into the net shop and rent a PC just an hour to fulfill my obligation here in the forum.

Then you are right I think as long as you are not doing violation in the forum is not bad to chase money here.

People like OP are the snake of the forum and people like Silent26 are good asset for the forum.

I agreed with you mate, those accounts buyer they want to jump up in a higher account without further knowledge on posting they are not helping forum and we consider that as a cheater.

[Xtez]

Why are you buying your account and then moaning about it.

This forum is for learning and understanding. From a basic level to intermediate levels.

All the bounties and signature campaigns are purely bonuses for contributing as well as benefitting those who want advertisement.

If you where happy to learn then you would start again

[AleScamHole]

IMO, the OP's stand and Silent26's stand are not comparable.

OP has no intention of caring about the forum...

OP had 3 accounts and tried to buy another one.

However, Silent26 seems contributing for the forum. S/he actually cares about the forum as much as he needs money too (Silent26, I am sorry for the hard life you are experiencing. At some point, we all had it. If you are honest and hard working with strong ethics then things will be changing very soon. It's the rule of the nature).

People like OP are the snake of the forum and people like Silent26 are good asset for the forum.

Update:

I'm not a good poster like nullius, iasenko, mdayliner¹, theyoungmillionaire and etc. But I'm not a shitposters either. Just refer me to a simple Member who contribute in the forum. I don't need acknowledgement from you guys but it's up to you. Understanding is what I'm expecting from all of you  

I think non of us are as good as nullius, s/he is out of our league.

And about me...? I do not think I am that much good as you guys think. I am just a consistent customer, love to involved myself with everything, with most of the topics. I know, I have a lot of problems with grammars, spellings, constructing sentences, choosing words however I am kind of lucky that I live in one of the most economically rich country, regularly visit western countries although I born in eastern culture. It helps when you talk to people with multi-culture in person.

¹mdayonliner

Don't let the door hit you on the way out. 

Could not agree more 
Watch out OP!

or maybe they should just be like you and spam MLM ponzis
you do know where your "earnings" from that come from, right?

sorry, but seeing all that crap on you, i have no respect for you anymore mdayonliner, luckily that shit was posted publically so now your smooth talking wont get you as far

Snake!
dont give this guy a penny if he asks you@ Silent26, look @ his MLM history, nothing but tears in his wake of people he befriends, be careful
you dont really HAVE a penny to give him, but those people dont care, they seem to love most screwing over their own poor countymen

[mdayonliner]

or maybe they should just be like you and spam MLM ponzis
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sorry, but seeing all that crap on you, i have no respect for you anymore mdayonliner, luckily that shit was posted publically so now your smooth talking wont get you as far

Did you forget to read this explanation? I am sure I can not satisfy everyone which is fine with me and I understand how the psychology works for different people depending on their circumstances.

you do know where your "earnings" from that come from, right?

Of course I do but not the way you are thinking, I can assure you.

Snake!
dont give this guy a penny if he asks you@ Silent26, look @ his MLM history, nothing but tears in his wake of people he befriends, be careful
you dont really HAVE a penny to give him, but those people dont care, they seem to love most screwing over their own poor countymen

I guess this is too much now. Where did you find that I asked money from anyone here or anywhere in internet?

[Silent26]

However, Silent26 seems contributing for the forum. S/he actually cares about the forum as much as he needs money too.

It's true, I do really care about this forum. That's why busting Merit abusers became my hobby lately, I just didn't continue busting abusers due to a little busyness, but would like to continue it. I will not spend my time investigating these Members if I don't want to help Bitcointalk improve. I'm just doing my part as a Member, this forum helps me lot that's and in exchange of that, I help this forum as well.

Update:
I think non of us are as good as nullius, s/he is out of our league.

It doesn't matter, as long your a good poster, although the way you post is different, it's all just the same. It doesn't matter if nullius is more genius than you cause we got our own kind of style when it comes to posting. A good poster is a good poster and will be acknowledged as a good poster as well.

And about me...? I do not think I am that much good as you guys think. I am just a consistent customer, love to involved myself with everything, with most of the topics. I know, I have a lot of problems with grammars, spellings, constructing sentences, choosing words however I am kind of lucky that I live in one of the most economically rich country, regularly visit western countries although I born in eastern culture. It helps when you talk to people with multi-culture in person.

¹mdayonliner

You might be right, just like me, I really don't know if the words I used to construct a sentence is right because I'm also lacking of English vocabulary, my basis is as long as I can deliver my thoughts clearly, then I think my sentences are just fine. But I still envy those knowledge you've got and how excellent you make topics and posts

Sorry for misspelling your name.

Silent26 mate, I am much related on your post we have the same status of life I'm so touched to this photo that to know I'm not alone. Sometimes if I don't have an internet connection I went into the net shop and rent a PC just an hour to fulfill my obligation here in the forum.

Then you are right I think as long as you are not doing violation in the forum is not bad to chase money here.

Don't worry, Yes we are down for now, but we're still lucky to experienced this kind of life. This is what inspired us to pursue more and achieve our goals in life. This life is not permanent, soon or later, we'll be able to move on with this life and everything will be much better


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Hey guys, cut it off. I think fighting with each other is not too necessary. Okay AleScamHole, I won't give mdayonliner any penny as you wish, but I think mdayonliner won't do such a thing either. Why would he ask me for a penny? So stop quarrelling. It's just a misunderstanding.

I see positive attitude in you, this is very important for a man. Good luck mate, you will be successful someday if you keep this attitude intact. 

Thanks mate Appreciated.

[mdayonliner]

Don't worry, Yes we are down for now, but we're still lucky to experienced this kind of life. This is what inspired us to pursue more and achieve our goals in life. This life is not permanent, soon or later, we'll be able to move on with this life and everything will be much better

I see positive attitude in you, this is very important for a man. Good luck mate, you will be successful someday if you keep this attitude intact. 

[xtraelv]

It's true, I do really care about this forum. That's why busting Merit abusers became my hobby lately, I just didn't continue busting abusers due to a little busyness, but would like to continue it. I will not spend my time investigating these Members if I don't want to help Bitcointalk improve. I'm just doing my part as a Member, this forum helps me lot that's and in exchange of that, I help this forum as well.

I have no issues with people that want to earn $ in Crypto by contributing positively. Members from other countries - especially poorer countries sometimes contribute in phenomenal ways towards Crypto and it can be a method to get out of poverty.

It also has helped get people closer and understand each other better. I've made friends from all over the world through Crypto.

[Brunus]

It's ok to protect the forum from abusers, but it's the system that creates abusers and shitposters: if I'm paid to write something, of course I'm pushed to write "anything".
Please note that bounty managers are NOT concerned about shitposts: the only want the visibility of their signature.
So, I thing that if we don't change the system, there is no solution.

[mdayonliner]

So, I thing that if we don't change the system, there is no solution.

It's not the system, it's us who need to be dutiful to the forum.

Talking about bounty/sig managers... I know (seen) a lot of managers who do actually care about good posts. They pick up participants based on the post history/post quality - not just that you applied FIFO. These BTC paying campaigns are good examples. You know why? Because the project owners are paying real money, not the tokens that are made out from the thin air.  

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Thinking about this post, I’ve just thought about @The Pharmacist. I suppose we all agree that he is a very good/exceptional forum member. He says that he holds no bitcoin because he has to spend what he earns here to cover his living expenses. That means when he is posting here he does so for the money that he needs, and I don’t see anything wrong with it.

Not my living expenses, per se, but it's a nice supplement to my job.  If I have to rely on signature campaigns in order to live, I'm screwed. 

I had a problem with signature campaigns when I first joined the forum because I saw they were the motivating factor behind the huge shitposting problem.  That was in early 2015 and I'm sure the problem had been going on for several years previous to that.  Since that time I've come to believe that there's nothing inherently wrong with being in a campaign, because you can still write very interesting posts and get paid for them.

The problem is that if you live in a 3rd world country, these campaigns pay a lot, and they've attracted people from all over the world--including those who are the least qualified to get paid for any sort of writing job.  A lot of people hear about bitcointalk from friends and family and then come here and "join bitcoin" without having anything interesting to say, not just about bitcoin, but about anything.

OP doesn't sound like he's a typical shitposter, but it's his choice whether he wants to leave the forum.  I'd be interested to know the story of how he lost his original account.

[madnessteat]

Many people cry about the merit system. Before you cry, try to understand that sooner or later signature companies will be less attractive. Develop yourself and your skills. Only then you will notice on this forum! And in life! I apologize for my English, I study it for about 4 months.

[vlad230]

Obviously I can still post and contribute without having a high ranked account.  But it helps to take part in sig campaigns while I'm posting just as many other high ranked posters do.

Indeed OP, you do have a good point. The problem here is with people who shit post and do not bring their own contribution to this forum.

I'm also promoting a coin that I truly believe in, although we have not been paid for doing this for the past 4 weeks now, if we're ever going to get paid...  Some people are short minded and love to dismiss you immediately like it happened to me too a few days go without knowing anything about you.  

I hate to say it but the guy got some point Sir Vod. Maybe yes, this forum really is not about making money, but making money is now part of this forum. Actually, it's okay to earn money here as long as you also contributes in discussions pretty well.

Just an example is me. Yeah, other people can judge me because they might say that I only posts here because of my paid signature campaign in short "To earn money". But actually, even without in any campaign, I still posts because it is my contribution to the forum. I know its easy for you guys to say these words.
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I've checked you posts and you are truly contributing to this forum. I see I also merited you in the past when I was running my free review service. Glad to see your post quality is still good

I would like to say that I see it in a different way: you have been selected and are being paid because you're doing good posts not the other way around. A good campaign manager always selects the best posters to join their campaigns. If you ask me this is the part that should be regulated better - the campaign managers.


Going a bit off topic...
If I am not mistaken, this is a house from the rural part of the Philippines. I was on vacation there last year and was impressed by the people there. They are so happy as well as kind and friendly with everyone, although it's clear they were not as lucky as some of us from the US or Europe are.

We all take a lot of things for granted and we should be ashamed for a lot of things that we do and the way some of us treat other people.
I encourage you guys to take a trip to the Philippines not only for the amazing places you'll see but also for the people & hospitality.

[ionabori]

Did you try to recover access to the original account ? I agree that it has high wait time currently but it is certainly worth it. If I had to choose one between buying a higher ranked account and waiting for my account to be recovered by staff, I will choose to wait only.

Regarding getting scammed while buying accounts, there is huge probability of that happening all time for these kind of services.

[simonova]

It's ok to protect the forum from abusers, but it's the system that creates abusers and shitposters: if I'm paid to write something, of course I'm pushed to write "anything".
Please note that bounty managers are NOT concerned about shitposts: the only want the visibility of their signature.
So, I thing that if we don't change the system, there is no solution.

Why don't you maintain a balance between the two. I know that the signature campaigns want to to complete "x" number of posts per week to get paid but you can still maintain quality in those posts. In fact, some campaigns reward posters some additional BTC based on quality of posts.

If earning from bounties is what interests you, you should be actually more concerned about quality of posts you make here. If you make good quality posts, you can get merits, rank up and earn more. 

[KianSantang96]

I lost access to many three high ranked accounts on bitcointalk.  So I tried to purchase some and ended up getting scammed.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4525611.msg40763443#msg40763443

I would of stayed but It will take literally years to rank back up with this merit system.  Even for really good posters it takes ages as the merits being handed out is decreasing each month.

Obviously I can still post and contribute without having a high ranked account.  But it helps to take part in sig campaigns while I'm posting just as many other high ranked posters do.

People like you, who don't care about this forum and only want money, are not wanted here anyway.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out. 

to the point. This forum is not about all money matter. that right, but It's easy to say money doesn't matter for someone who have everything but in life there are still many people who need money.

[Daboy_Lyle]

Users like this are only wants money and not even contributing good here on forum. Why did you priorities earnings? For me you can pair earning while learning.
Earning if you put love where you earn that's will became LEARNING and will help the forum to lesser those earners that comes up to spammers.

[KianSantang96]

I lost access to my thigh ranked accounts on bitcointalk.  So I tried to purchase some and ended up getting scammed.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4525611.msg40763443#msg40763443

I would of stayed but It will take literally years to rank back up with this merit system.  Even for really good posters it takes ages as the merits being handed out is decreasing each month.

Obviously I can still post and contribute without having a high ranked account.  But it helps to take part in sig campaigns while I'm posting just as many other high ranked posters do.

I feel sad about what you experience, because I have experienced my thing, what if the newbie everything is limited.

[athanz88]

It is good to see people like Silent26 knows his/her place (in a good way) so that he/she really appreciates others and doing something in a proper way, like treating a forum the way it should be. It is even better to see people like OP is going out from this forum and revealing his true intention on this forum, well we wouldnt miss OP so much right?

This problem has lying around for so long in this forum and there are so many opinion about it, but i believe that if your mindset is to "contribute positively for the forum (or any work) and let the money comes" then it is okay, even better, this mindset could be applied (and most succesful people did this) in the real world, and i believe there is no other way around like "let the money comes first then i will be contribute positively". Nah, the money wont come.

[r1s2g3]

 Forum members, Vod and Slient26 are engaged in debate due to the OP post.
But OP , even after getting scammed , become more determined to buy accounts.

Below are the 3 topics that OP created after this topic. (All for buying accounts)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4542725.msg40892239#msg40892239
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4548384.msg40962163#msg40962163
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4551303.msg40990576#msg40990576


Can any DT member can tag peachcoco. Evidence of "peachcoco" is alt account of OP is posted below.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4525611.msg41219912#msg41219912

[ionabori]

Many people cry about the merit system. Before you cry, try to understand that sooner or later signature companies will be less attractive. Develop yourself and your skills. Only then you will notice on this forum! And in life! I apologize for my English, I study it for about 4 months.

What do you mean by signature companies being less attractive ? I am in favor of merit system but the signature campaigns are not giving it any importance now. Some campaigns started giving preference to members with merits but it was stopped in few days. I think such campaigns failed to  get so many members with merits and thus this concept was completely withdrawn.

[dominikusakinator]

I lost access to many three high ranked accounts on bitcointalk.  So I tried to purchase some and ended up getting scammed.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4525611.msg40763443#msg40763443

I would of stayed but It will take literally years to rank back up with this merit system.  Even for really good posters it takes ages as the merits being handed out is decreasing each month.

Obviously I can still post and contribute without having a high ranked account.  But it helps to take part in sig campaigns while I'm posting just as many other high ranked posters do.

People like you, who don't care about this forum and only want money, are not wanted here anyway.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out. 

Sorry to hear that. Good luck next time.