Could Governments & Banks manipulate the price like this?

[syaripudin]

Let's consider this :

Governments cannot stop Bitcoin by stopping the technology, but they can kill the interest that people have in buying bitcoins. Could governments with the help of Banks, be behind this falling price?

Last year we saw a huge increase in the price and I was thinking that it could have been a collective buying strategy by Banks to buy a lot of coins for a synchronized dump in 2018.  

If the Banks bought a lot of coins last year at the beginning of the spike from $1000 and they triggered a buying frenzy, then most of the more expensive coins would have been bought by the public. So they might just have bought coins to trick other investors into buying more coins.

So what is their goal? Their goal will be to break the demand for Crypto currencies and Bitcoin, by gradually dumping the cheap coins that they bought at the start of last year and pushing the price down. <Like what is happening now>

They know investors will have bought at the higher end, say $10 000 to $19000 and these people would probably have lost money, when they started dumping in 2018. They saw that "demand" for Crypto currencies increased, when there is a constant increase in the price and they are now creating a constant decrease in the price to break people's confidence in the technology and also the demand for the coins.

They will obviously use untraceable methods to do this, because the Banks are helping to hide the origin of this money.   They can only print a few Billions more to execute this strategy and this will go unnoticed, because it is toilet paper money.  

This is the only logical reason why we are seeing a constant decrease in the price, in spite of all the good progress that we have made. It also explains the large spike in the price in 2017.

Hodl on guys and gals, do not be tricked by these cheap tactics. <If this is true>    

although what you say makes sense but there is not a strong enough proof that the decline in botcoin prices is caused by the intervention of the government and the bank. I think this is happening because purely from declining market demand this may be caused by the many negative news about bitcoin that is often heard.

[avadonne]

It can be. Because the government can use their money to buy Bitcoin and play it on the crypto exchange. Since the owners are not being shown in public, they can buy and sell Bitcoin without notice by the public. Banks also can play it, they all have the resources. So this is possible.

[Dswaggers]

Price can be manipulated only by big holders of btc, and if some of governments have big amount of btc they can do this
Other manipulations dont work there

Government can't be manipulate the price of bitcoin because they not athorize to change or to be involve in price of bitcoin.And I think it difficult to manipulate the price of bitcoin because its decentralized and have some high technology to protect their system.

[Oasisman]

Let's consider this :

Governments cannot stop Bitcoin by stopping the technology, but they can kill the interest that people have in buying bitcoins. Could governments with the help of Banks, be behind this falling price?

Last year we saw a huge increase in the price and I was thinking that it could have been a collective buying strategy by Banks to buy a lot of coins for a synchronized dump in 2018.  

If the Banks bought a lot of coins last year at the beginning of the spike from $1000 and they triggered a buying frenzy, then most of the more expensive coins would have been bought by the public. So they might just have bought coins to trick other investors into buying more coins.

So what is their goal? Their goal will be to break the demand for Crypto currencies and Bitcoin, by gradually dumping the cheap coins that they bought at the start of last year and pushing the price down. <Like what is happening now>

They know investors will have bought at the higher end, say $10 000 to $19000 and these people would probably have lost money, when they started dumping in 2018. They saw that "demand" for Crypto currencies increased, when there is a constant increase in the price and they are now creating a constant decrease in the price to break people's confidence in the technology and also the demand for the coins.

They will obviously use untraceable methods to do this, because the Banks are helping to hide the origin of this money.   They can only print a few Billions more to execute this strategy and this will go unnoticed, because it is toilet paper money.  

This is the only logical reason why we are seeing a constant decrease in the price, in spite of all the good progress that we have made. It also explains the large spike in the price in 2017.

Hodl on guys and gals, do not be tricked by these cheap tactics. <If this is true>    

although what you say makes sense but there is not a strong enough proof that the decline in botcoin prices is caused by the intervention of the government and the bank. I think this is happening because purely from declining market demand this may be caused by the many negative news about bitcoin that is often heard.

Government and banks could be a huge factor in price movement and even manipulation, but basically, price movements are caused by declining market demand as you said, and this is because of the people who dump their alts and bitcoin. As much as I want to believe that whales cannot manipulate the prices, but it is actually happening in the market today.

[BitBite5]

It can be. Because the government can use their money to buy Bitcoin and play it on the crypto exchange. Since the owners are not being shown in public, they can buy and sell Bitcoin without notice by the public. Banks also can play it, they all have the resources. So this is possible.

It's possible but I don't think it's very likely. This sounds more like a conspiracy theory to me than a real scenario.
The role of governements and banks in the crypto world is exaggarated and you can ask a question why would any bank or governement spend much of their resources for such manipulation activities and what is their actual use of that?

[lamcouz]

factually, bitcoin will not be banned. On the contrary, cryptocurrencies will be accepted worldwide. But for a very high price: governments will regulate and cryptocurrencies will no longer be decentralized.

[Moiyah]

If we just have to sort things out, thingking widely over this issues. This is quite true and will agree with. I, sometimes be under review about who actually manipulates the market. Somehow, when I watched the news covering bitcoin, governments vs cryotocurrencies adoptation or banned, it made me think about the governments behind the price effect.

I cannot understand why some do not agree with this but for me, it has something that makes sense if you can just look at the whole picture of it.

[Kakmakr]

Bitcoin, Gold-Backed Currency Can Coexist in Free Society: Ron Paul
- https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-gold-backed-currency-can-coexist-in-free-society-ron-paul/


I.O.U.S.A.: Byte-Sized - The 30 Minute Version
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- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_States
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_debt
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_China
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_European_debt_crisis


Money vs Currency - Hidden Secrets Of Money Ep 1 - Mike Maloney
- https://youtu.be/DyV0OfU3-FU
Seven Stages Of Empire - Hidden Secrets Of Money Ep 2 - Mike Maloney
- https://youtu.be/EdSq5H7awi8
Death Of The US Dollar On A Timeline - Hidden Secrets Of Money Ep 3- Mike Maloney
- https://youtu.be/y-IemeM-Ado
The Biggest Scam In The History Of Mankind - Hidden Secrets of Money 4
- https://youtu.be/iFDe5kUUyT0
Where Does Money Come From? - Hidden Secrets Of Money Ep 5 - Mike Maloney
- https://youtu.be/OQWMd_NPSBA
Top 4 Reasons For Deflation BEFORE Hyperinflation - Hidden Secrets Of Money 6 (Mike Maloney)
- https://youtu.be/8GP87dgTqF8
The Money Illusion - Hidden Secrets Of Money 7 - Mike Maloney
- https://youtu.be/P4_1pwsm5LY
The Bitcoin Revolution (Documentary) Hidden Secrets Of Money Ep 8
- https://youtu.be/SF362xxcfdk

Ah, Thank you for the valued contribution to this discussion and the good resources that you linked too. I think once we dig a little deeper into this, we will see that this is not just a conspiracy theory, but rather an accurate reflection of what is going on at the moment.

I gave you 1 sMerit for the constructive resources that you provided to this discussion.  

[Ankhang2016]

If prices have only increased and there is no reduction then it is not the market. The manipulators are the ones who benefit from them

[Darklinkz]

I know that in some way they have succeeded and sometimes they don't. But this drastic fall that we are experiencing for almost half a year is because of them. A normal market would go down but it will also go up between months and not just a complete bearish dominating the market.

[soltantgris]

It can be. Because the government can use their money to buy Bitcoin and play it on the crypto exchange. Since the owners are not being shown in public, they can buy and sell Bitcoin without notice by the public. Banks also can play it, they all have the resources. So this is possible.

I agree with you because they have a lot of money. But if to look at European countries, the government's are controlled by people, so they can do their things. The reason for that banks can do it. They hello closed system of payments and control of money.

[Yatsan]

Let's consider this :

Governments cannot stop Bitcoin by stopping the technology, but they can kill the interest that people have in buying bitcoins. Could governments with the help of Banks, be behind this falling price?

Last year we saw a huge increase in the price and I was thinking that it could have been a collective buying strategy by Banks to buy a lot of coins for a synchronized dump in 2018.  

If the Banks bought a lot of coins last year at the beginning of the spike from $1000 and they triggered a buying frenzy, then most of the more expensive coins would have been bought by the public. So they might just have bought coins to trick other investors into buying more coins.

So what is their goal? Their goal will be to break the demand for Crypto currencies and Bitcoin, by gradually dumping the cheap coins that they bought at the start of last year and pushing the price down. <Like what is happening now>

They know investors will have bought at the higher end, say $10 000 to $19000 and these people would probably have lost money, when they started dumping in 2018. They saw that "demand" for Crypto currencies increased, when there is a constant increase in the price and they are now creating a constant decrease in the price to break people's confidence in the technology and also the demand for the coins.

They will obviously use untraceable methods to do this, because the Banks are helping to hide the origin of this money.   They can only print a few Billions more to execute this strategy and this will go unnoticed, because it is toilet paper money.  

This is the only logical reason why we are seeing a constant decrease in the price, in spite of all the good progress that we have made. It also explains the large spike in the price in 2017.

Hodl on guys and gals, do not be tricked by these cheap tactics. <If this is true>    

Probably of the government was holding a huge value of bitcoin they can manipulate the value of it, but if they do that it may seems that they uses money for nothing. They can't manipulate the bitcoin itself or the cryptocurrency because it is the technology who runs it not some person, even hackers can't interfere to the said currency, but the government can poison investors mind. Moreover investors that are afraid to take risk are not edible to be investor so the crypo world needed an investors who are willing to wait.

[RasicaOla12]

I am afraid that the government and the bank will not act because they are state regulators that they want the market to be stable and they want good things to happen to people and their country.

[billsted86]

Governments can not manipulate or  control the price of bitcoin. If The holders or investors  are more and more and the demand will increase in the market can so the price depends on how many investors invest bitcoin.

[coinwizard_]

I think it is unlikely that banks and governments will work together, especially across borders. If anyone wishes to do this the governments would ask their secret services department to break bitcoin and they will then find a way to do this.

[nickwen]

If the government and the bank control bitcoin prices then I think bitcoin and the crypto market will never be manipulated. Because the government will probably manage to keep the bitcoin prices stable

[ParadoxXx]

I read about this hypothesis by the end of 2017 when bitcoin start to fall, and i'm sure of one thing: if the so called establishment, banks or the state find threatened by some currency, digital or not, actions will be taken in order to supress it. And like mentioned, its just print some more billions.

[kangen riko]

People continue to make speculation and blame each other, as if by looking for the cause the value of bitcoin can rise again. Pumps can be done by anyone who has a lot of money and people always identify that whales are price breakers. Just like us, whales also trade, also want a profit and they have the right to sell their bitcoin for profit.

[BitcoinFX]

Bitcoin, Gold-Backed Currency Can Coexist in Free Society: Ron Paul
- https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-gold-backed-currency-can-coexist-in-free-society-ron-paul/


I.O.U.S.A.: Byte-Sized - The 30 Minute Version
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_TjBNjc9Bo


- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_States
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_debt
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_China
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_European_debt_crisis


Money vs Currency - Hidden Secrets Of Money Ep 1 - Mike Maloney
- https://youtu.be/DyV0OfU3-FU
Seven Stages Of Empire - Hidden Secrets Of Money Ep 2 - Mike Maloney
- https://youtu.be/EdSq5H7awi8
Death Of The US Dollar On A Timeline - Hidden Secrets Of Money Ep 3- Mike Maloney
- https://youtu.be/y-IemeM-Ado
The Biggest Scam In The History Of Mankind - Hidden Secrets of Money 4
- https://youtu.be/iFDe5kUUyT0
Where Does Money Come From? - Hidden Secrets Of Money Ep 5 - Mike Maloney
- https://youtu.be/OQWMd_NPSBA
Top 4 Reasons For Deflation BEFORE Hyperinflation - Hidden Secrets Of Money 6 (Mike Maloney)
- https://youtu.be/8GP87dgTqF8
The Money Illusion - Hidden Secrets Of Money 7 - Mike Maloney
- https://youtu.be/P4_1pwsm5LY
The Bitcoin Revolution (Documentary) Hidden Secrets Of Money Ep 8
- https://youtu.be/SF362xxcfdk

Ah, Thank you for the valued contribution to this discussion and the good resources that you linked too. I think once we dig a little deeper into this, we will see that this is not just a conspiracy theory, but rather an accurate reflection of what is going on at the moment.

I gave you 1 sMerit for the constructive resources that you provided to this discussion.  

Lots of people are saying the same things - the effects can be seen throughout the world, reflected by the current socio-economic climate ...

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