22 Messages From Creationists To People Who Believe In Evolution

[knight22]

This is silly to think religion will die. Maybe some will die but others will rise. Religion is about things we cannot prove and this will always be part of human history. You better get used to that.

How can you assume that?! Never before there was anything nearly of what internet is.
We are going to a new order, new horizons... Spirituality may never die, it's somehow built-in ourselves, but religion in the sense of an organization is dying. All religions are losing support, their "growth" is only by fake numbers and high natality.
In the fake numbers, my country is a fair example. Accordingly to all statistics 98% of us are Roman Catholic. But... are we? Just get to a church at any town around during mass, they are nearly empty, just with a bunch of old folks. Roman church made so much pressure against several subjects, as condoms, pill, abortion... yet we have free condoms, pills and abortion up to 10 weeks, passed by a national referendum.
Still, and even if nobody gives a rat about what Catholic church says or doesn't say, for the accounting systems we still are "98% Catholic"... whatever that means.

Yes the catholic church is in decline but people will always gather and organize themselves within their beliefs structure. Internet as a communication channel might in fact just facilitate that and give rise to even weirder religions. Internet didn't and won't change human nature.

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[C10H15N]

...Internet didn't and won't change human nature.

lol - what rock have you been living under for the last 20 years.   

The nearly fatal mistake railroads once made was assuming that they were in the railroad, not the transportation business.  Only the arrogance of religion would assume itself to be part of human nature, rather than a primitive construct of primitive people to explain the world around them.  Fortunately, for those of us with the intellectual capacity to use them, we have much better tools at our disposal. 

[BCEmporium]

Yes the catholic church is in decline but people will always gather and organize themselves within their beliefs structure. Internet as a communication channel might in fact just facilitate that and give rise to even weirder religions. Internet didn't and won't change human nature.

So are ALL religions, even if some shows up forged numbers. People are getting rational, and religion has no role in a rational World.
Religion isn't part of any human nature to begin with.

[Tusk]

What does this have to do with Bitcoin?

Oh - I get it!  You are saying that Bitcoin cannot exist because it is not mentioned in Genesis.  Mystery solved!

But bitcoin has it's own genesis block

The genesis block was the birth of collective consciousness; Satoshi Nakamoto is the supernatural creator ;-)

Of course they can both exist crypto is evolving all the time, The universe is ALIVE!

[knight22]

Yes the catholic church is in decline but people will always gather and organize themselves within their beliefs structure. Internet as a communication channel might in fact just facilitate that and give rise to even weirder religions. Internet didn't and won't change human nature.

So are ALL religions, even if some shows up forged numbers. People are getting rational, and religion has no role in a rational World.
Religion isn't part of any human nature to begin with.

Religion is about beliefs. Things that can't be proven and this has a big place in a rational world. Ignoring that aspect of human being is irrational.

[BCEmporium]

Religion is about beliefs. Things that can't be proven and this has a big place in a rational world. Ignoring that aspect of human being is irrational.

Wrong, that's spirituality and curiosity.
Religion is a scam exploiting those two human factors by providing forged answers pretending it to be from a "God" or "Gods"...
Don't mistake the concepts!

Because ultimately religion feeds in ignorance, internet is a great tool to not "finish it" - we will never run out of fools - but decrease it to insignificant levels.

[knight22]

Religion is about beliefs. Things that can't be proven and this has a big place in a rational world. Ignoring that aspect of human being is irrational.

Wrong, that's spirituality and curiosity.
Religion is a scam exploiting those two human factors by providing forged answers pretending it to be from a "God" or "Gods"...
Don't mistake the concepts!

Nope it's the part of the definition. Are you being irrational and making things up because of your belief system?

[BCEmporium]

Religion is about beliefs. Things that can't be proven and this has a big place in a rational world. Ignoring that aspect of human being is irrational.

Wrong, that's spirituality and curiosity.
Religion is a scam exploiting those two human factors by providing forged answers pretending it to be from a "God" or "Gods"...
Don't mistake the concepts!

Nope it's the part of the definition. Are you being irrational and making things up because of your belief system?

Your link seconds my concept... what did you intend to prove with it?

And why do you think I "believe" on something? It's like if me, you and a 3rd person are in a room. That person picks a large chunk of air and closes his hand, you can "believe" he got God's hand or something, but if I say he has nothing in the hand, that's not a belief, just a statement of reality.

[knight22]

Religion is about beliefs. Things that can't be proven and this has a big place in a rational world. Ignoring that aspect of human being is irrational.

Wrong, that's spirituality and curiosity.
Religion is a scam exploiting those two human factors by providing forged answers pretending it to be from a "God" or "Gods"...
Don't mistake the concepts!

Nope it's the part of the definition. Are you being irrational and making things up because of your belief system?

Your link seconds my concept... what did you intend to prove with it?

That you have irrational bad feeling about religion as a whole. In no way religion is a scam nor should be. They all have been abuse for sure but that's a big difference.

[BCEmporium]

That you have irrational bad feeling about religion as a whole.

There's nothing irrational about it, and billions of dead, killed on behalf of this or that religion, makes my point on such concrete solid.

OK, so give me your Bitcoins and I'll ensure you a place in Heaven... if it isn't a scam... what else can it be?!  

[knight22]

That you have irrational bad feeling about religion as a whole.

There's nothing irrational about it, and billions or dead, killed on behalf of this or that religion, makes my point on such concrete solid.

It's also the case with ex URSS atheists. Should we hate atheism because of that? Extremists are the problem, not religion or belief systems. Those who wants to impose their beliefs are the problem. Atheists included.

[BCEmporium]

It's also the case with ex URSS atheists. Should we hate atheism because of that? Extremists are the problem, not religion or belief systems. Those who wants to impose their beliefs are the problem. Atheists included.

First, Communism is NOT atheism, they simply replace the "unknown God" for the cult or personality. Communism acts as a religion on itself... it's one of those things designed to "sort all problems of the world", that ends up doing nothing but create a load of more problems over the ones already on place.
And there you've a double point spear: If nobody imposes a belief system on anyone, then religion will die. People will "convert" to their own spirituality, eventually you get a bunch of guys hanging around about that, but not a huge network of churches or mosques or other sort of temples.

[wolfYella]

That you have irrational bad feeling about religion as a whole.

There's nothing irrational about it, and billions of dead, killed on behalf of this or that religion, makes my point on such concrete solid.

OK, so give me your Bitcoins and I'll ensure you a place in Heaven... if it isn't a scam... what else can it be?!  

It is a matter of what people believe in. The "story" behind religions are much more elaborate then give me your money to get into heaven. Also most religions do not make giving money a condition of them being a member of the faith.  

[BCEmporium]

It is a matter of what people believe in. The "story" behind religions are much more elaborate then give me your money to get into heaven. Also most religions do not make giving money a condition of them being a member of the faith.  

You have thousands of ways to get money out of people, not just by taken money itself. Obedience and loyalty have a price, services too... if religion can get all of those for free, then they are waging even if not a single USD has been exchanged.

[knight22]

It's also the case with ex URSS atheists. Should we hate atheism because of that? Extremists are the problem, not religion or belief systems. Those who wants to impose their beliefs are the problem. Atheists included.

First, Communism is NOT atheism

True but URSS was communist AND atheist.

First, Communism is NOT atheism, they simply replace the "unknown God" for the cult or personality. Communism acts as a religion on itself... it's one of those things designed to "sort all problems of the world", that ends up doing nothing but create a load of more problems over the ones already on place.
And there you've a double point spear: If nobody imposes a belief system on anyone, then religion will die. People will "convert" to their own spirituality, eventually you get a bunch of guys hanging around about that, but not a huge network of churches or mosques or other sort of temples.

People will always share and want to share some level of beliefs, this is just inevitable. If it is not religions, it will be sects and we would be better off with religions IMO.