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July 29, 2018, 06:29:55 AM
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Accidentally is wrong term to me when you buy 0.1 btc at any price, you also control the price but the price also is controlled intentionally by some people or groups for sure.
uniquely the market is controlled by large whales. So it was, so it is and so it will be. The one who has large volumes of coins, can influence the pricing of I crypto currency. Although there are secret communities of users of crypto currencies, which practically set themselves a goal to change the situation on the market to their own advantage.

Not directly though. The demand gets pumped up from the large buys that BTC gets but it still has the property to be unstable itself. It is also global, so everyone can buy it therefore having a few pump in the demand to price. What sort of communities are you talking about? Those cooperatives having their own contributions to invest here in cryptocurrency? The pump and dump groups?
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July 29, 2018, 07:16:18 AM
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maybe bitcoin prices can be controlled because every year-end bitctoin prices always go up, it will probably be a tradition for its fore. although the bitcoin price is in control it will remain profitable for us.
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July 29, 2018, 07:58:20 AM
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maybe bitcoin prices can be controlled because every year-end bitctoin prices always go up, it will probably be a tradition for its fore. although the bitcoin price is in control it will remain profitable for us.
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Trending is normal even if it is not control, because usually investors assume  that at the end of the year bitcoin price will getting high, so that's the time also most of them will hold and buy and of course there is what we called massive buying. Since  we are following the law supply and demand the demand get higher and the price also will get  up.

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August 15, 2018, 11:43:25 PM
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Of course it was intentional.Everyone knows that money is power.What kind of paper or digital money then it does not matter!
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August 16, 2018, 03:15:32 AM
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Most likely on the contrary, the price of bitcoin is controlled only by people who do not know what to do now, because everyone's opinion is divergent. Whales now do absolutely nothing.
If that was the case, this market would be a complete mess (more than it already is). The reason that this market isn't a mess is because of whales calculating their moves instead of impulsively acting like retail traders do.

Whales are just minding their own business and will do what they can to financially benefit from every possible market scenario. Pumps or dumps for them are as profitable, there is no difference.

With futures and other tools that they can use manipulation is more profitable than ever before. This is the reality we have to cope with till regulations are frightening enough to discourage large scale manipulation.

Yes, whales really are whales, they don't care who suffers from their actions.
It's all about business for them. So it's not that they are doing absolutely nothing.
They are always there, waiting for a good timing to attack and do their part.
They know what they are up to and you can't stop them.
You just need to be careful with your own investments. They don't care who they are hitting on.

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August 16, 2018, 05:14:56 AM
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Most likely on the contrary, the price of bitcoin is controlled only by people who do not know what to do now, because everyone's opinion is divergent. Whales now do absolutely nothing.
If that was the case, this market would be a complete mess (more than it already is). The reason that this market isn't a mess is because of whales calculating their moves instead of impulsively acting like retail traders do.

Whales are just minding their own business and will do what they can to financially benefit from every possible market scenario. Pumps or dumps for them are as profitable, there is no difference.

With futures and other tools that they can use manipulation is more profitable than ever before. This is the reality we have to cope with till regulations are frightening enough to discourage large scale manipulation.

Yes, whales really are whales, they don't care who suffers from their actions.
It's all about business for them. So it's not that they are doing absolutely nothing.
They are always there, waiting for a good timing to attack and do their part.
They know what they are up to and you can't stop them.
You just need to be careful with your own investments. They don't care who they are hitting on.


A lot of gossip is circulating if bitcoin prices are controlled by the Whales, it might happen because in the bitcoin market, influencers do exist, prices on the market are influenced by many things and if the whales has a large capital, of course they can manipulate supply and demand, they can also make news and speculations
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August 16, 2018, 05:24:04 AM
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The prices are completely controlled and manipulated by the worlds elite.  They print the money so they control the prices.  Pretty simple. 

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August 16, 2018, 05:28:12 AM
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Of course it intentionally, the whales are aiming for profit the bigger the profit is better, that is why there are a lot of fud issues, and the real investors now are tired of their game, the price seems cant pierce the barrier, that is why there are less and less new investors and the price swing is more often
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August 16, 2018, 02:27:55 PM
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It's quite obvious that the prices are  manipulated intentionally especially when we have some truly bullish news around and prices don't reflect that.
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August 23, 2018, 09:14:00 PM
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I tend to believe that cryptocurrency pricing is difficult to control even if it is possible. It seems like currency control is the case.

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August 23, 2018, 09:55:26 PM
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I tend to believe that cryptocurrency pricing is difficult to control even if it is possible. It seems like currency control is the case.
We are having a decentralized market, meaning we can't be controlled and all the rumors are just a sayings only and ain't gonna proven yet.  Though big whales have there power though,  but it won't be enough reason to put blame on them.
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August 24, 2018, 05:21:56 PM
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Bitcoin price is not controlled it is just moving with the buyers and sellers trend some walls are helping to cross the limits of different prices but an accidentally or intentionally not compulsory things and does not matter.
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August 24, 2018, 06:35:41 PM
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Prices for Bitcoin for everyone can change and accidentally or intentionally looking when and how much the price will affect the price of a particular situation.
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August 29, 2018, 08:26:35 AM
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There are clear boom and boost cycles in Bitcoin, they are useful to shed out all the noobs and leave only the strongest holders that know what they are dealing with. There's a lot of people holding Bitcoin that don't deserve to hold Bitcoin because they don't understand it, so these will be forced to panic sell. Governments and whales will keep stacking up on coins, then they will declare it world reserve currency and then the noobs that sold will complain that Bitcoin is controlled by a small elite.

That is a beautiful way to put it, even though it may not be totally accurate in the endgame prediction. Governments would probably create their own coins, something they can control.

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September 01, 2018, 03:03:37 PM
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Bitcoin price is not controlled it is just moving with the buyers and sellers trend some walls are helping to cross the limits of different prices but an accidentally or intentionally not compulsory things and does not matter.

I tend to disagree. Whales can really 'influence' the price. If you try to closely look at the so called buy and sell walls, manipulation can happen by cancelling such orders after it looks like that a large buyer or seller was in action. Sort of deceiving traders and most of the time noobs are swayed by those orders, and panic sells.

And specially in alt-coin market, you can sense that someone is playing from behind when you see prices go up and spike without any sensible news that will really push the price to the next levels. So accidentally or intentionally this market is prone to price manipulation, just saying.

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September 01, 2018, 03:08:14 PM
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Of course it was intentional.Everyone knows that money is power.What kind of paper or digital money then it does not matter!
true because if the price of bitcoin continues to rise then investors who will invest will go back and forth to invest, so the price of bitcoin can be controlled by investors and people who make bad issues about bitcoin
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September 01, 2018, 10:26:05 PM
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Accidentally is wrong term to me when you buy 0.1 btc at any price, you also control the price but the price also is controlled intentionally by some people or groups for sure.
uniquely the market is controlled by large whales. So it was, so it is and so it will be. The one who has large volumes of coins, can influence the pricing of I crypto currency. Although there are secret communities of users of crypto currencies, which practically set themselves a goal to change the situation on the market to their own advantage.

Not directly though. The demand gets pumped up from the large buys that BTC gets but it still has the property to be unstable itself. It is also global, so everyone can buy it therefore having a few pump in the demand to price. What sort of communities are you talking about? Those cooperatives having their own contributions to invest here in cryptocurrency? The pump and dump groups?
The market has always been so unstable due to the supply and demands fluctuation and with some noobs entering into the trading businesses, it is too different to maintain such pump of the price. Thus, it could be both accidentally and intentionally that the sudden pump and dump of prices varies in some other months.

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September 01, 2018, 10:58:59 PM
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I don't think BTC price control is much intentional because with the market being so volatile one must ether have a collective group to make such manipulations or at least 1/4 of the market cap which to me that's not doable.
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September 01, 2018, 11:05:30 PM
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When the market falls long term. The market has few new investors, the old investors are no as interested as before. Volume is very low. That makes the profit from exchange are reduced ( Huge whales are big exchages )
To compensate for the declining profit. The whales and the exchanges are linked together to control the margin. Currently, Margin has a large volume (Bitmex no.1 volume). That's why most of the time the bitcoin chart are U-shaped


As we all know, cryptocurrency is not supervised by centralized authorities in its distribution, so that it is not surprising that it will make it weak and susceptible to manipulation which is carried out by large investors to make the maximum profit.
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September 01, 2018, 11:43:11 PM
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Yes, when the price goes back, the whales have a big role, and of course, when the price falls. By the other way, human psychology also plays a role here. Ex : noobs who are not understand what is the trade, they start to sell when they see red.

Indeed, I agreed on what you said mate, when the market down some whales are taking it as a chance for them to buy a huge of it then when the market goes back there is a really big role for them. Meaning, whales investors knows what they are doing  whether they are selling or buying altcoins here. Unlike those communities who always in mind to sell their coins when the market is down.
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