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June 30, 2018, 12:43:54 PM
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I went to post this

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bitmain just got a new competitor.
am glad because excessive dominance is not good with cryptocurrency and decentralized apps!

and a newbie pumping  this is once again a bad sign.

@ op  simply send me one and I will demo it and if real you will sell it out in a heartbeat.

to all be carefull

@ notfuzzywarm

the post you put here  is not at all like you  so much so i would think you have been hacked

and this happened:

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scam for sure.  not one time until today has anyone every been  able to do a block on a post.

and I tried to post on a second account and was block with that one.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4565688.msg41142493#msg41142493


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The scammer also has an ebay listing for a 46ths unit for $500... It is a scam
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June 30, 2018, 04:43:24 PM
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No shit, this was my initial response to NotFuzzyWarm which then got moderated 3 times.

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Lol they moderated my post, that won't do them any favours.

Deleted my post twice now...

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Anyway, surely same rules apply right? Until there is verifiable proof that the miner exists and can hash at the expected speed then its just vaporware.

So where's the video? Wheres the demo model sent to someone reputable on the forum. Phil or yourself or HaggsFin.. hell even I'd do one Smiley

Its dangerous for you to give quasi credence to them at such an early stage, and sort of unexpected to be honest mate.

I posted the same thing to their chat on the web site.


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June 30, 2018, 08:29:25 PM
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By the way, that wasn't moderation, that was cloudflare getting absurdly twitchy, it even wouldn't let us moderators post so... yeah unless Asgard themselves hacked btctalk just for the sake of that thread, then no.

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By the way, that wasn't moderation, that was cloudflare getting absurdly twitchy, it even wouldn't let us moderators post so... yeah unless Asgard themselves hacked btctalk just for the sake of that thread, then no.

Phil's wasn't moderation but my posts were Moderated by the asgard thread starter.

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Lol...

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July 01, 2018, 12:57:18 AM
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They had requested more information about mfb about 3am PST. Seems they accessed our site from inside the UK which is a bit suspicious since the company is supposed to be located in Sweden or the Netherlands (?). I think we all agree anyone sending BTC to them is more than likely  a bad idea.

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July 01, 2018, 07:11:52 AM
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So far, besides the normal red lights (better, faster, cheaper from a company nobody has heard about - posted by newbie accounts), I've seen 2 other red flags:

1)  Someone Google imaged search one of the executives and found an exact match for a guy in Odessa, Urkraine with a different name.  Faking photos is not something a legitamate company would do.

2)  The other thread on this in this section is self moderated and HIGHLY edited.  Ask about demo units for review purposes and your post gets deleted.

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July 01, 2018, 11:10:12 AM
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So far, besides the normal red lights (better, faster, cheaper from a company nobody has heard about - posted by newbie accounts), I've seen 2 other red flags:

1)  Someone Google imaged search one of the executives and found an exact match for a guy in Odessa, Urkraine with a different name.  Faking photos is not something a legitamate company would do.

2)  The other thread on this in this section is self moderated and HIGHLY edited.  Ask about demo units for review purposes and your post gets deleted.

I really like this manufacturer, I mean this must be the most perfect thing ever.

For a start - wrong area folks! That is hardware - not software... Requested the mods to move this to Mining Speculation for now.

So far gotta say this looks promising. Aside from being a company no one has heard of before I do not get any red flags yet -- and as folks who know me here will testify that is a VERY rare statement for me to make. edit: This may change of course as more info comes out.

Went to their site and in Chat asked the all-important question: Can these run on any sha256D pool or is asicboost support required. Answer is they run on ANY sha256d pool. Damn fine start.

Seriously thinking about ordering one to try out/review.
I really like this manufacturer, I mean this must be the most perfect thing ever.

looks to me like you could not have possibly said this.

@ mods  WTF  is going on here?

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July 01, 2018, 12:19:20 PM
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Sidehack posted in the self mod thread last night as well (I merited his post).  He made a comment about notfuzzy being notskeptical which made him (sidehack) more skeptical!

And now haggsfin... WTF is going on indeed

The OP of that thread is sitting online and deleting almost everything, hes not interested in any discussion, he's sitting and waiting for BTC to hit his wallet, fucking scamming cunt!

Also note that suchmoon found a stolen picture of an ibelink hash board that scamgard used on their site.

How in fucks name did the two biggest Avalon supporters on the forum jump into bed with this scammer.  Either those accounts are compromised or those two guys have lost their minds...

I'm going to report haggsfins post in the sm thread as spam (because it actually is LOL) hopefully ck or frodocooper agree and remove it at least we wont have a ringing endorsement there.

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I don't know. I'm just as puzzled about this whole thing as any of you currently are.

I'm going to report haggsfins post in the sm thread as spam (because it actually is LOL) hopefully ck or frodocooper agree and remove it at least we wont have a ringing endorsement there.

I disagree. While it is indeed out of character for both NotFuzzyWarm and HagssFIN to be seemingly endorsing Asgard Mining this prematurely (whether explicitly or implicitly), deleting their posts would amount to censorship. We already have Asgard Mining censoring their own thread; I would very much like to avoid stooping to their level.

Also, the onus is on any potential customer to conduct their own due diligence before purchasing from Asgard Mining. The most that can reasonably be expected of us in this situation is simply to provide sufficient warning regarding the risks of purchasing from Asgard Mining. I'm convinced that this thread and the one in Scam Accusations constitute adequate warning.

There is therefore no reason, in my opinion, for -ck and myself to begin censoring asgardmint's thread, even if for the benevolent purpose of removing questionable endorsements from NotFuzzyWarm and HagssFIN.

I nevertheless marked your report as Handled as a concession. The appropriate action to be taken would have been to mark it as a Bad report.

On that note, there may be a remote possibility that HagssFIN was merely being sarcastic.
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July 01, 2018, 01:37:56 PM
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May want to add some capital letters to the thread title here so people see it.

Kind of how I got drawn into it, was from their initial posts to. Some were just a little skeptical at first and seemed routine now it's pretty clear legendary accounts likely compromised.

Not that this is funny at all but I would have loved to have read sidehacks post.

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I don't know. I'm just as puzzled about this whole thing as any of you currently are.

I'm going to report haggsfins post in the sm thread as spam (because it actually is LOL) hopefully ck or frodocooper agree and remove it at least we wont have a ringing endorsement there.

I disagree. While it is indeed out of character for both NotFuzzyWarm and HagssFIN to be seemingly endorsing Asgard Mining this prematurely (whether explicitly or implicitly), deleting their posts would amount to censorship. We already have Asgard Mining censoring their own thread; I would very much like to avoid stooping to their level.



Thanks for responding, I do appreciate that.  I would have preferred actually if you marked it bad if you didn't agree with it.

1) I did not report NFW's because I completely agree it is not spam (ie it did not break forum rules) and the onus is always on the customer to do their own dd
2)  I did not report the Self Mod'd thread as I did not see it as breaking any rules.
3)  I reported Hagssfin post because it looks like another "great project" one line shit post we have all deleted hundreds of times.  I actually thought there was sufficient rule being broken to warrant deleting it.
4)  I did not ask to remove the post to stoop down to the OP's level or have it removed because it's an endorsement of sorts.  I asked for it to be removed as Spam or breaking the rules the side effect being it was not their anymore.  I asked for the post to be removed because it violates forum rules IMO, if you don't agree I can and will respect that.

Honestly man I am not looking for a fight I respect your decision and I will leave it at that!

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I don't know. I'm just as puzzled about this whole thing as any of you currently are.

I'm going to report haggsfins post in the sm thread as spam (because it actually is LOL) hopefully ck or frodocooper agree and remove it at least we wont have a ringing endorsement there.

I disagree. While it is indeed out of character for both NotFuzzyWarm and HagssFIN to be seemingly endorsing Asgard Mining this prematurely (whether explicitly or implicitly), deleting their posts would amount to censorship. We already have Asgard Mining censoring their own thread; I would very much like to avoid stooping to their level.

Also, the onus is on any potential customer to conduct their own due diligence before purchasing from Asgard Mining. The most that can reasonably be expected of us in this situation is simply to provide sufficient warning regarding the risks of purchasing from Asgard Mining. I'm convinced that this thread and the one in Scam Accusations constitute adequate warning.

There is therefore no reason, in my opinion, for -ck and myself to begin censoring asgardmint's thread, even if for the benevolent purpose of removing questionable endorsements from NotFuzzyWarm and HagssFIN.

I nevertheless marked your report as Handled as a concession. The appropriate action to be taken would have been to mark it as a Bad report.

On that note, there may be a remote possibility that HagssFIN was merely being sarcastic.

I also thought this could be true.
I also thought that both fuzzy and hags had compromised accounts.
I also thought  that both of them were paid off.
I also thought that were are held hostage and being told to write that.

I finally thought that I simply do not know WTF is up with the thread.

I TAGGED HIM AS A SCAMMER SO I WILL NOT REQUEST A DEMO MINER FROM HIM AS THAT IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

However if the op offers some demos to others and shows he has a 0.052 watt miner to sell I will remove my tag.

OP has yet to send me any pm's or emails so I simply say to all


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Not that this is funny at all but I would have loved to have read sidehacks post.

So would I.

Thanks for responding, I do appreciate that.  I would have preferred actually if you marked it bad if you didn't agree with it.

1) I did not report NFW's because I completely agree it is not spam (ie it did not break forum rules) and the onus is always on the customer to do their own dd
2)  I did not report the Self Mod'd thread as I did not see it as breaking any rules.
3)  I reported Hagssfin post because it looks like another "great project" one line shit post we have all deleted hundreds of times.  I actually thought there was sufficient rule being broken to warrant deleting it.
4)  I did not ask to remove the post to stoop down to the OP's level or have it removed because it's an endorsement of sorts.  I asked for it to be removed as Spam or breaking the rules the side effect being it was not their anymore.  I asked for the post to be removed because it violates forum rules IMO, if you don't agree I can and will respect that.

Honestly man I am not looking for a fight I respect your decision and I will leave it at that!

Understood, and thanks. I nevertheless remain of the opinion that HagssFIN was merely being sarcastic, until proven beyond a reasonable doubt to be otherwise. His post therefore currently does not qualify as spam in my opinion.
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Aside from being a company no one has heard of before I do not get any red flags yet
Except that their efficiency claims are so much better than the current leading edge of technology as to be highly improbable.

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Which is something NotFuzzy would normally be the first to call out.

It's weird to say, but NotFuzzy being suddenly NotSkeptical has made me more so than usual.



As for HaggsFinn, it reads to me as thick sarcasm.

In a self-moderated thread, can the moderator edit posts or just delete them?

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Aside from being a company no one has heard of before I do not get any red flags yet
Except that their efficiency claims are so much better than the current leading edge of technology as to be highly improbable.

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Which is something NotFuzzy would normally be the first to call out.

It's weird to say, but NotFuzzy being suddenly NotSkeptical has made me more so than usual.



As for HaggsFinn, it reads to me as thick sarcasm.

In a self-moderated thread, can the moderator edit posts or just delete them?

In my self mod threads I can only Delete them not edit them.

Which means one of the below
a fuzzy changed it
b fuzzy was hacked password not changed and only that edit was done
c someone that has privileges to edit did it
d fuzzy has sold out.
E something else

I do think hags was sarcastic.




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Which means one of the below
a fuzzy changed it
b fuzzy was hacked password not changed and only that edit was done
c someone that has privileges to edit did it
d fuzzy has sold out.
E something else

I do think hags was sarcastic.

I don’t like that neither of them has posted here.

I think it was obvious sarcasm too. Invisible on the Internet to some people, apparently.

You guys know NFW best, does he usually reply to pm's?
I realize he doesn't know me, does he ignore ppl he doesn't know?

I sent him two headed "ASGARD", no reply, the first one way back, when my "he's not who he says he is" post was deleted and he posted the original 'positive' message.
Strangely 19 minutes after I sent that, he went to the post and edited it into a fucking eulogy, by adding the bolded bit.

<snip>
So far gotta say this looks promising. Aside from being a company no one has heard of before I do not get any red flags yet -- and as folks who know me here will testify that is a VERY rare statement for me to make. edit: This may change of course as more info comes out.

<snip>

And then, after my second message basically asking "WTF?", he added the visible edit, winding his neck in a bit.

And, in the middle of it all, we had that Cloudflare weirdness. (And ironically ended up with Theymos, who allegedly wouldn't know how to plug a miner in, multiple quoting a self modded thread by a [probable] scammer.)
Given the hilarity of it all, my vote from Phillip's list
A weak suggestion for option
E ?
NFW was pissed up when he made the first post. I understand that there's lots of hopes for new toys soon in the mining world and maybe he posted a bit indiscreetly.
Some jumped up "scam buster" pisses him off by pm'ing, out of the blue, with a picture of a guy on a Russian dating site, so he thinks "I'll make it clear I think that's FUD, not a red flag" and edits to "Yey, suckers, I know what I'm talking about." level.
Gets second pm from me and reads the circling vulture posts (thanks QS) and thinks "Oh, fuck I wish I hadn't had that second bottle" and edits yet again, to back peddle.
Currently not daring to come on line for 24 hours (although it is Sunday), thinking "Oooops....how do I get myself out of this?"

Or maybe not.

 

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I was drunk "af" when I made the post on their thread. Maybe an excuse, but maybe not. It is the weekend but most users here seem pretty active.

I'm told all our conversations have been cordial with who ever is on the other end of this  but have been asked to not visit their site till dust settles.

Soo very intrigued on how this plays.  

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