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August 02, 2018, 11:58:41 PM |
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It will base on the luck of every player, there is no need to be hardworking in gambling it will result to addiction and it will not give you good effect, i think we should need to avoid gambling if you want to secure your money, much better to invest or be hard working in trading those method could gives you good profit.
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August 03, 2018, 03:41:39 AM |
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It will base on the luck of every player, there is no need to be hardworking in gambling it will result to addiction and it will not give you good effect, i think we should need to avoid gambling if you want to secure your money, much better to invest or be hard working in trading those method could gives you good profit.
Much better to invest that time in gaining more knowledge to a different venture, gambling is an addicting vices so engaging too much will ends you up being full of stressed even you spent more time gambling owners still got the high chances defeating you, you can deal with trading and take the risk with much higher chances to gain if you will be keen gaining more knowledge to place your positions.
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August 03, 2018, 04:52:49 AM |
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It will base on the luck of every player, there is no need to be hardworking in gambling it will result to addiction and it will not give you good effect, i think we should need to avoid gambling if you want to secure your money, much better to invest or be hard working in trading those method could gives you good profit.
Much better to invest that time in gaining more knowledge to a different venture, gambling is an addicting vices so engaging too much will ends you up being full of stressed even you spent more time gambling owners still got the high chances defeating you, you can deal with trading and take the risk with much higher chances to gain if you will be keen gaining more knowledge to place your positions. trading is very similar to gambling because both activites are fully dependent on luck but you also need to work hard on them because you cant possibly play the game if you don't exert any effort . hard work doesn't always lead to addiction because addiction will always depend on every person . infact , all hard working person are known to be more successful in life than the ones who are lazy because lazy person are only addicted on their bad habits .
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August 03, 2018, 08:12:16 AM |
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No, hard work? First it was not worth your time to work hard and learn how to to win in every single game. Smart playing of gambling counts it is how you will handle the amount of money you spend on you activity playing. You don't have to be a genius what you need to do is to make your own control and discipline in playing to attain your goals in playing gambling.
But to me I think that hard work is really count in some gambling, games, for example in sports gambling you need to study a lot get information about the teams , their players and to know about the conditions where the gambling is going to play previous history of the ground and much more therefore I think that hard work is really do work in some gambling games.
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August 04, 2018, 08:26:03 AM |
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That's why I asked him if its about luck basis games, you can be lucky but we know that not all the time we're lucky correct? Yes we are lucky at times but not every-time. Most addicted gamblers tend to think that they will get lucky everytime they play and so they go all in on high rolls ending up in a bloodbath. Luck based games all need luck - skills may be needed but that luck can turn the skills to zero in a second. You may not need an effort to win but still it's result is random.
It is always a random outcome. 50-50 chance of win or loss. It will base on the luck of every player, there is no need to be hardworking in gambling it will result to addiction and it will not give you good effect, i think we should need to avoid gambling if you want to secure your money, much better to invest or be hard working in trading those method could gives you good profit. Hard working refers to real life jobs - they dont come anywhere near gambling, investing or trading; they are all different entities which cannot be compared.
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August 04, 2018, 08:37:06 AM |
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No, hard work? First it was not worth your time to work hard and learn how to to win in every single game. Smart playing of gambling counts it is how you will handle the amount of money you spend on you activity playing. You don't have to be a genius what you need to do is to make your own control and discipline in playing to attain your goals in playing gambling.
But to me I think that hard work is really count in some gambling, games, for example in sports gambling you need to study a lot get information about the teams , their players and to know about the conditions where the gambling is going to play previous history of the ground and much more therefore I think that hard work is really do work in some gambling games. I think hard work in gambling is not like the hard work in the real jobs. and if you say that in sports gambling, you need to study to get a lot of information, then I think this is what you should do if you want to get in the sports game. I think we have a different opinion about the meaning of hard work in gambling and for me, it is different than the real jobs.
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August 06, 2018, 06:25:20 AM |
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The odds are almost always set against you in gambling and rewards are pure based on luck or good fortune rather than on hardwork. That is why it is called gambling
Why you are saying is depends on casino and dice game type where no calculation or hard work is working and it is purely depends on luck. But if you are gambling on sports or poker then I think hardworking pays you hardwork means by preparing report and analysing in games and then gambling will pay you I don't know about sports but maybe it can be a hard work since we collecting much information about each team that will be played and we analyze the data. but maybe it will the same if we are playing the gambling games using strategy so we can have a chance to win. but for me, no matter what is the games in the gambling, I don't think that it's part of hard work because we still depend on the luck that can help us to win the games. I also think that hard work will count in the sense that if you will collect different information about the teams and even about the players individually, you need to study their history, their weak and stronger points and must more which can help you in taking a good decision.
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August 06, 2018, 07:02:34 AM |
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No, hard work? First it was not worth your time to work hard and learn how to to win in every single game. Smart playing of gambling counts it is how you will handle the amount of money you spend on you activity playing. You don't have to be a genius what you need to do is to make your own control and discipline in playing to attain your goals in playing gambling.
But to me I think that hard work is really count in some gambling, games, for example in sports gambling you need to study a lot get information about the teams , their players and to know about the conditions where the gambling is going to play previous history of the ground and much more therefore I think that hard work is really do work in some gambling games. I think hard work in gambling is not like the hard work in the real jobs. and if you say that in sports gambling, you need to study to get a lot of information, then I think this is what you should do if you want to get in the sports game. I think we have a different opinion about the meaning of hard work in gambling and for me, it is different than the real jobs. If you consider clicking and typing (assuming you are online gambling because you want to be alone and not be bothered) to be hardwork, then it is. If you plan to study and create your own casino, I think that’s the best way I could think of to have the hardwork that you’ve done, worth it. You cannot have steady winnings in casinos, so don’t push too hard, IMO.
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August 06, 2018, 07:44:13 PM |
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I am curious to know if someone continually invested a lot of time in studying a game involved in gambling, further if he had played the game a lot to understand the intricacies involved, then can we call him an expert in that gambling game? If we do call him an expert then we clearly differentiate his experience and expertise from that of a novice. This clearly shows that the person is capable of winning more as an expert than the novice who really does not have the in-depth understanding of the play.
This brings us to an interesting question if hard work in gambling really pays off? If one puts in a lot of efforts to understand a game involved in gambling, does it mean that all his time has gone down the drain? Certainly no. If gambling were simply a blind guess or a wild shot then even years of studying it makes it useless because one is simply guessing the outcome blindly. But such is not the scenario with gambling in reality. What makes hard work count in gambling?
This further sets off the question of addiction in gambling. Work can also be an addiction for many. But here the addiction could be for perfecting the game and the art of playing. This kind of addiction is to struggle every time for success by proper calculation and review. However, addiction can also be due to pure greed of winning with no clear knowledge of the game. If hard work counts, then we may actually find a solution for a healthier addiction towards success in gambling.
You touch several points, first about addiction, addiction is basically to keep doing something despite the knowledge that it damages yourself, Lionel Messi could be said to be addicted to soccer by some, but since his behavior benefits him in the form of fame and a lot of money then we cannot say that he is addicted to soccer and the same can be said about those that earn money with gambling. Second hard work can bring fruits in gambling but only in the casino games that can be beaten and that can produce a positive expected value, one of those games is poker, most people lose their money but if you keep playing and practicing your game you will come to eventually make some profits, while many people think that poker is a game of luck, it is known that your skill counts for most part of your success and that is why most of the time you see the same familiar faces making a lot of money on television.
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Hard work cannot be put in gambling. Because in gambling, your mind is working not your body. We can say that before getting that money, it comes from your sweat, blood, tears, and basically hard work. But that doesn't mean that you put hard work to win in gambling, because if you do, you are not into gambling. Because in gambling, you must put your mind into it. You must think exceedingly without having a doubt. You must put your 101% of trust and money.
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August 07, 2018, 10:46:11 AM |
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It will base on the luck of every player, there is no need to be hardworking in gambling it will result to addiction and it will not give you good effect, i think we should need to avoid gambling if you want to secure your money, much better to invest or be hard working in trading those method could gives you good profit.
Much better to invest that time in gaining more knowledge to a different venture, gambling is an addicting vices so engaging too much will ends you up being full of stressed even you spent more time gambling owners still got the high chances defeating you, you can deal with trading and take the risk with much higher chances to gain if you will be keen gaining more knowledge to place your positions. trading is very similar to gambling because both activites are fully dependent on luck but you also need to work hard on them because you cant possibly play the game if you don't exert any effort . hard work doesn't always lead to addiction because addiction will always depend on every person . infact , all hard working person are known to be more successful in life than the ones who are lazy because lazy person are only addicted on their bad habits . Although there is a big different between trading and gambling, I think that the only factor that is similar in both trading and gambling is your luck. And the big different between trading and gambling is to work hard, if you will do hard work in trading the chances of becoming successful in trading is raising, but in some gambling games we totally depend on our luck and even our hard work do not matter there.
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August 08, 2018, 12:20:33 AM |
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I don't think that it can call as a hard work, playing gambling is not like you are also working on your job. Does it depend on chances of winning so where's the hard work there? I don't think will consider as a hard work.
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August 08, 2018, 07:25:24 AM |
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Hard work cannot be put in gambling.
Sure you can. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Because in gambling, your mind is working not your body.
So in any other thing that doesn't require much physically movement, you're saying that we're not doing any work? That's funny because most jobs nowadays require you to just be in front of a computer and talk to people or to a client. It requires knowledge before you can be hired to such job. Sometimes it's even more tiring that physical labor jobs. Hardwork can surely be done in gambling but not in pure luck-based games like roulette and dice games. But in games like poker and sportsbetting, hard work can be done. In poker, you can learn how to read people's emotions. You have to be able to read their behavior so you know when to bet and when to fold. You can learn a little bit of psychology so you can manipulate your opponents by your strategy in playing poker. In sports bet, hard work can be done by researching about the game and looking for other tipster threads.
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August 08, 2018, 11:28:43 AM |
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I don't think that it can call as a hard work, playing gambling is not like you are also working on your job. Does it depend on chances of winning so where's the hard work there? I don't think will consider as a hard work.
Hardwork is coming from hard labor jobs, but totally in gambling it doesn't count so far. Maybe it can be a form of efforts coming from the desires which results either winning or losing in a certain bets you had in a gambling game, neither online or physical gambling. Most of gambling games nowadays comes in a virtual form which can be performed through internet based engines, and much more enjoyable compared from traditional gambling.
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August 09, 2018, 05:27:46 AM |
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I don't think that it can call as a hard work, playing gambling is not like you are also working on your job. Does it depend on chances of winning so where's the hard work there? I don't think will consider as a hard work.
Hardwork is coming from hard labor jobs, but totally in gambling it doesn't count so far. Maybe it can be a form of efforts coming from the desires which results either winning or losing in a certain bets you had in a gambling game, neither online or physical gambling. Most of gambling games nowadays comes in a virtual form which can be performed through internet based engines, and much more enjoyable compared from traditional gambling. Well if you study hard about gambling it could be considered as hard work. Probably the results that you would have is not what you want but it can be considered but it doesn’t mean that you are going to earn with that hard work because it is not insured, basically it’s not work. There is no assurance in gambling especially when it’s about money.
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Hardwork is coming from hard labor jobs, but totally in gambling it doesn't count so far. Maybe it can be a form of efforts coming from the desires which results either winning or losing in a certain bets you had in a gambling game
Bill Gates says he hires lazy people because they will always find the best way to do the least work and so find the most efficient process. Compare that to this question and maybe the hard work is in not doing the simplest thing which is to bet always but to resist temptation and save yourself the loss sometimes. The hard work is in when knowing to do less ? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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I think hard work in gambling is counted because every effort have a price as a payment.So l think l can meet my expectations in hard working even in gambling.lf l do hard work in gambling l will sure to be succeed.
You can't say this easily, you can't be too hardworking if what you are doing is out nowhere to find success. I know that success can't be found easily but in gambling, there's really no direction on where you are going. It can be by fate or you're really good and hardworking but it's more of random based results so what if you don't know how to play analyze-based games and you are only into luck basis games? It depends on a game, some of them based on luck and you don't need to make an effort for winning. That's why I asked him if its about luck basis games, you can be lucky but we know that not all the time we're lucky correct? You may not need an effort to win but still it's result is random. People are not considering this and they will bother about their earning even it is from luck or through random. One thing i can say in trading there is no special room for hardworking because we do not keep any effort here to make money and every we can say is based on the luck we have.
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Hardwork is coming from hard labor jobs, but totally in gambling it doesn't count so far. Maybe it can be a form of efforts coming from the desires which results either winning or losing in a certain bets you had in a gambling game
Bill Gates says he hires lazy people because they will always find the best way to do the least work and so find the most efficient process. Compare that to this question and maybe the hard work is in not doing the simplest thing which is to bet always but to resist temptation and save yourself the loss sometimes. The hard work is in when knowing to do less ? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Maybe lazy people will know when to stop then the hard workers because hard workers will go hard and try to recover their losses so it will leads to serious loss,so be a lazy people while gambling to save yourself from further losses. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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August 09, 2018, 08:55:48 AM |
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I think hard work in gambling is counted because every effort have a price as a payment.So l think l can meet my expectations in hard working even in gambling.lf l do hard work in gambling l will sure to be succeed.
You can't say this easily, you can't be too hardworking if what you are doing is out nowhere to find success. I know that success can't be found easily but in gambling, there's really no direction on where you are going. It can be by fate or you're really good and hardworking but it's more of random based results so what if you don't know how to play analyze-based games and you are only into luck basis games? It depends on a game, some of them based on luck and you don't need to make an effort for winning. That's why I asked him if its about luck basis games, you can be lucky but we know that not all the time we're lucky correct? You may not need an effort to win but still it's result is random. At this point, you are right. For luck basis game you don't need any effort, and the game results randomly as you said.
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August 09, 2018, 12:37:19 PM Last edit: August 09, 2018, 12:48:38 PM by coinplus |
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Bill Gates says he hires lazy people because they will always find the best way to do the least work and so find the most efficient process. Compare that to this question and maybe the hard work is in not doing the simplest thing which is to bet always but to resist temptation and save yourself the loss sometimes. The hard work is in when knowing to do less ? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) But gambling does not require hard work because I have seen some gamblers spending long hours in innovating new strategies but they never found a method to crack profits, yes all their hard works ended in vain. Then it means least work will crack profits from gambling again a big no is the final answer. What will help then ? probably a smart work. Still your smart wok must capable of maximizing your chances of being luck. Possible ? Not yet proven. For luck basis game you don't need any effort, and the game results randomly as you said.
Random results are obvious from gambling always hence targeting something with hard work is complete meaningless. No gamblers is ready to understand this fundamental of gambling that is the reason we are having such a topic of hard work for finding success in gambling.
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