Does hard work in gambling count?

[AlutBitcoin]

Hard work won't pay off in games of chance such as roulette or slots but it will definitely help with sports betting.  Most people don't really do a lot of research into the matches they are betting on.  They just throw money at their hunch or favorite and don't look at all the past statistics.  It's possible to be a professional sports gambler but a lot of hard work is involved.

I definitely agree to you on this one. There are gambling games that can be won with enough research using stats and more but on games of chances like dice and roulette as you said, no matter how hard the work is given, the chance of losing is still greater than your chance of winning even on a game with only 1% house edge

You all will keep saying things that are not practical, at least as far as I am concerned, things that obviously I am 100% certain you have never practically done yourself.

No matter the research and stats you want to look at in gambling, luck will always be luck and that is the only single thing that will apply. People should stop deceiving themselves, thinking they can get to find something they cannot from gambling. If you want to work hard, get a job and use research and stats to pick the best one. Attaching too much than it is to gambling, will only set you ablaze in the long run.

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[dentolas]

well, gambling envolves so many games that it is impossible to answer this question...
If the game is run by pure chance, it will be difficult to have any results by working hard...
I am not a gambling person, but a friend of mine has dedicated himself to learn and improve his poker game with good success... but poker has a great deal of math and probability... not only chance...
cheers and good luck on your gambling 

[hiameneven]

The only thing that is going to matter during gambling is luck. Even if you do some hard work, there will be little impact of any of that. In the end, we need to realize that gambling is a hobby rather than an avenue to make money.

There is no amount of hard work that will even be of importance to whether you win from gambling or not, and in most cases, it only makes you more vulnerable to losing the more, as you get to expose yourself long into gambling which is what I believe would happen to anyone who thinks with hard work, they can get anything.

Probably, the only thing I see being possible here is hard luck, and if you really want to think hard work will help you, you are just going to end up being trained by the school of hard knocks. Luck is the thing and will always be the thing attached with gambling.

[mornabo]

well, gambling envolves so many games that it is impossible to answer this question...
If the game is run by pure chance, it will be difficult to have any results by working hard...
I am not a gambling person, but a friend of mine has dedicated himself to learn and improve his poker game with good success... but poker has a great deal of math and probability... not only chance...
cheers and good luck on your gambling 

Some games do use pure chance or luck just to win, like lotto, plinko, dice and so on. how strong you try and make a strategy, it won't change the chance in your win but there are some games in gambling that use strategies and your intelligence in playing like poker. your hard work might change the chance to win

[Ipwich]

well, gambling envolves so many games that it is impossible to answer this question...
If the game is run by pure chance, it will be difficult to have any results by working hard...
I am not a gambling person, but a friend of mine has dedicated himself to learn and improve his poker game with good success... but poker has a great deal of math and probability... not only chance...
cheers and good luck on your gambling 

Some games do use pure chance or luck just to win, like lotto, plinko, dice and so on. how strong you try and make a strategy, it won't change the chance in your win but there are some games in gambling that use strategies and your intelligence in playing like poker. your hard work might change the chance to win

I don't usually focus on that kind of games as I know my chances is very less and I will loss in the long run.
There are skilled based games, if I aim to become a successful sports gambler in the future, I will focus my time on it but of course with limitation.

[FlightyPouch]

well, gambling envolves so many games that it is impossible to answer this question...
If the game is run by pure chance, it will be difficult to have any results by working hard...
I am not a gambling person, but a friend of mine has dedicated himself to learn and improve his poker game with good success... but poker has a great deal of math and probability... not only chance...
cheers and good luck on your gambling 

Some games do use pure chance or luck just to win, like lotto, plinko, dice and so on. how strong you try and make a strategy, it won't change the chance in your win but there are some games in gambling that use strategies and your intelligence in playing like poker. your hard work might change the chance to win

I don't usually focus on that kind of games as I know my chances is very less and I will loss in the long run.
There are skilled based games, if I aim to become a successful sports gambler in the future, I will focus my time on it but of course with limitation.

We can't really say completely that we can be a successful gambler since there are a lot of times that people who are aiming for these position that flops down, most of them regretting that they've even gamble. Gambling is a good source of income, it is efficient and don't require any energy just skill, knowledge, skill and especially luck but we all know how low the percentage of winning here right? Better keep myself from these games since I can't risk my money on luck-based games, better work on my investing and trading skills.

[Ipwich]

well, gambling envolves so many games that it is impossible to answer this question...
If the game is run by pure chance, it will be difficult to have any results by working hard...
I am not a gambling person, but a friend of mine has dedicated himself to learn and improve his poker game with good success... but poker has a great deal of math and probability... not only chance...
cheers and good luck on your gambling 

Some games do use pure chance or luck just to win, like lotto, plinko, dice and so on. how strong you try and make a strategy, it won't change the chance in your win but there are some games in gambling that use strategies and your intelligence in playing like poker. your hard work might change the chance to win

I don't usually focus on that kind of games as I know my chances is very less and I will loss in the long run.
There are skilled based games, if I aim to become a successful sports gambler in the future, I will focus my time on it but of course with limitation.

We can't really say completely that we can be a successful gambler since there are a lot of times that people who are aiming for these position that flops down, most of them regretting that they've even gamble. Gambling is a good source of income, it is efficient and don't require any energy just skill, knowledge, skill and especially luck but we all know how low the percentage of winning here right? Better keep myself from these games since I can't risk my money on luck-based games, better work on my investing and trading skills.

I know its hard but if other people can make money in gambling then it's possible.
Of course we should know our skills if we can make consistent money in gambling, there are a lot of games in gambling, if we can master one
and will make us win consistently then it should easily bring us decent profit.

[qwertyup23]

I am curious to know if someone continually invested a lot of time in studying a game involved in gambling, further if he had played the game a lot to understand the intricacies involved, then can we call him an expert in that gambling game? If we do call him an expert then we clearly differentiate his experience and expertise from that of a novice. This clearly shows that the person is capable of winning more as an expert than the novice who really does not have the in-depth understanding of the play.

This brings us to an interesting question if hard work in gambling really pays off? If one puts in a lot of efforts to understand a game involved in gambling, does it mean that all his time has gone down the drain? Certainly no. If gambling were simply a blind guess or a wild shot then even years of studying it makes it useless because one is simply guessing the outcome blindly. But such is not the scenario with gambling in reality. What makes hard work count in gambling?

This further sets off the question of addiction in gambling. Work can also be an addiction for many. But here the addiction could be for perfecting the game and the art of playing. This kind of addiction is to struggle every time for success by proper calculation and review. However, addiction can also be due to pure greed of winning with no clear knowledge of the game. If hard work counts, then we may actually find a solution for a healthier addiction towards success in gambling.

I find it fallacious when you compared addiction in gambling to other types of addiction (specifically work) as they are different in nature. When we deal about gambling, everything revolves around luck. As its name and definition, you gamble (which may include some techniques and skill) but what determines the winner will revolve around the odds. Even if an individual possesses or knows every probability formula or math techniques, if the odds are against him then there is nothing that he cannot do. But what separates gamblers who possess such skill may increase their chances of winning.

As I have stated in various threads before, there is no winner in gambling WHEN an individual succumbs to addiction. It will only create an endless cycle of gambling where most people fail and fell in their lives.

[maydna]

I know its hard but if other people can make money in gambling then it's possible.
Of course we should know our skills if we can make consistent money in gambling, there are a lot of games in gambling, if we can master one
and will make us win consistently then it should easily bring us decent profit.

Of course it possible to make money in gambling but I don't think that the chance will bigger because we know that it is tough to win the game unless we have a luck chance in that game. Besides that, I don't think that if we can master one game, it will help us to make a profit from gambling because like I said before, we need the luck to get the money and it's only for some people that can do this. For some people, hard work in gambling counted because they think that doing hard work like learn every lesson for that game will help him to win but for the truth, he cannot depends on his hard work because he needs to have great luck.

[shursight]

No, it is almost impossible, at least for me, i think that there is no way that you can win to the house.

Sometimes you win, and sometimes you lose, but most of the times you are always going to be the losing one, because that is the trick and the way that all those casinos earn their money.

So, welcome to the capitalist era, that is how things works

[Naida_BR]

No, it is almost impossible, at least for me, i think that there is no way that you can win to the house.

Sometimes you win, and sometimes you lose, but most of the times you are always going to be the losing one, because that is the trick and the way that all those casinos earn their money.

So, welcome to the capitalist era, that is how things works

I couldn't agree more. I can't think that reading books and investing money in a game will pay off. I tried once to study poker but knowing the game doesn't help. There is still the variable that is called "The House" that controls the game. My perception for gambling now is that it is a gateway for entertainment for me and I play just for fun. People how gamble and make a living are just lucky for me and one time they will lose them all.

[peter0425]

No, it is almost impossible, at least for me, i think that there is no way that you can win to the house.

Correct. The house always win.

Sometimes you win, and sometimes you lose, but most of the times you are always going to be the losing one, because that is the trick and the way that all those casinos earn their money.

So, welcome to the capitalist era, that is how things works

And that what makes gambling so addictive, you feel that you are always going to win. And win you won you think you can't lose anymore however it's not the case. So everyone should be responsible enough not to be suckered by casinos.

[Janation]

well, gambling envolves so many games that it is impossible to answer this question...
If the game is run by pure chance, it will be difficult to have any results by working hard...
I am not a gambling person, but a friend of mine has dedicated himself to learn and improve his poker game with good success... but poker has a great deal of math and probability... not only chance...
cheers and good luck on your gambling 

Some games do use pure chance or luck just to win, like lotto, plinko, dice and so on. how strong you try and make a strategy, it won't change the chance in your win but there are some games in gambling that use strategies and your intelligence in playing like poker. your hard work might change the chance to win

Where is the hard work there?

Hard work is a great deal of effort or endurance and either of these two is not applicable to gambling since effort is not a thing on gambling either endurance. Hard work may work to some jobs that really requires effort and endurance but if we will be only talking about strategies and intelligence, that is not hard work. Also, even if you use strategies and intelligence of these games that you've said, you also require a huge amount of luck since even if you have a good effort and strategy, if you are not lucky you might not be able to win.

[Vaculin]

well, gambling envolves so many games that it is impossible to answer this question...
If the game is run by pure chance, it will be difficult to have any results by working hard...
I am not a gambling person, but a friend of mine has dedicated himself to learn and improve his poker game with good success... but poker has a great deal of math and probability... not only chance...
cheers and good luck on your gambling 

Some games do use pure chance or luck just to win, like lotto, plinko, dice and so on. how strong you try and make a strategy, it won't change the chance in your win but there are some games in gambling that use strategies and your intelligence in playing like poker. your hard work might change the chance to win

Where is the hard work there?

Hard work is a great deal of effort or endurance and either of these two is not applicable to gambling since effort is not a thing on gambling either endurance. Hard work may work to some jobs that really requires effort and endurance but if we will be only talking about strategies and intelligence, that is not hard work. Also, even if you use strategies and intelligence of these games that you've said, you also require a huge amount of luck since even if you have a good effort and strategy, if you are not lucky you might not be able to win.

Hard work is only gonna work with our job, but not in gambling.
Because gambling has an edge and you do not need to spend time just to know it, spending too much time analyzing to win will only make
your frustrated because it will still generate the same result, so, it's better to enjoy it and spend for it.

[Johnzky]

The answer to your question depends entirely on what game we are talking about.

Hard work can absolutely pay off when the game isn't just pure chance. There are games against other players such as poker, where you can practice reading language as well as concealing your own, and learning when it is best to check, call, raise, bluff, fold, etc. Or games like blackjack where you can learn to card count and give yourself an edge over the house.

If you are talking about games that are pure chance - roulette, plinko, dice "busting" games, etc. then no, there is nothing you can do to improve your odds.

Agree skill based games need some experience but of course since it's a gambling, you still need luck or a combination of both. But if you study a game like dice, even if how many years you will put on research, it doesn't make sense because it's a luck base game.

So this means that it depends on what games are we talking because just like dice is different in cards so it’s un comparable

No, it is almost impossible, at least for me, i think that there is no way that you can win to the house.

Correct. The house always win.

Totally agreed on you both,no ones gonna win against the house,yes you may win in certain times but all in all as you continue to gamble,losing is what you are having

[glowing10]

Gambling is something which you make money on the spot or lose 100 percent of your money . Many of games does not require any strategy and are purely luck based games. Some of the cards games do require strategy and experience which will help you to win the match . Instead of hard work one should be doing smart work and decide which is better game which will give better chance of winning.

[TheUltraElite]

Gambling is something which you make money on the spot or lose 100 percent of your money .

There are many games which has a "Surrender" method or "Investment" like in BlackJack. However thats not the most popular game out there. In the context of dice rolls though this is correct. Again for sports betting you could try to arbitrage your bets and make a profit by the spread of the bets on different bookies.

Many of games does not require any strategy and are purely luck based games. Some of the cards games do require strategy and experience which will help you to win the match .

Skills may be there but luck will always be there to make you lose.

Instead of hard work one should be doing smart work and decide which is better game which will give better chance of winning.

I believe the people who are going to gamble are far from "smart".

[Johnyz]

Gambling is something which you make money on the spot or lose 100 percent of your money . Many of games does not require any strategy and are purely luck based games. Some of the cards games do require strategy and experience which will help you to win the match . Instead of hard work one should be doing smart work and decide which is better game which will give better chance of winning.

There is no need for hard work in gambling, just a pure luck and yes, be smart always in making decision. Strategies will work sometimes but not for a long time, because the house will always win and will always find a way to get your money. Don’t be deceived by the money you have in gambling because its not safe on that place if you continue to gamble.

[shoreno]

yes it does   . who says gambling is easy ?  Maybe they are betting big amounts of cash and then they quit instantly win or loose   but for the most of us that are only poor , we only bet a little to less amounts ao that we can stay in game a little longer   .  

Evenutally someone invented bots or scripts in order to automate the process of playing a gamble  but still these stuffs will also require an effort or hardwork  to teak their settings in order  achieve a more stable performance .

[playboy654]

Gambling is something which you make money on the spot or lose 100 percent of your money .

There are many games which has a "Surrender" method or "Investment" like in BlackJack. However thats not the most popular game out there. In the context of dice rolls though this is correct. Again for sports betting you could try to arbitrage your bets and make a profit by the spread of the bets on different bookies.

Many of games does not require any strategy and are purely luck based games. Some of the cards games do require strategy and experience which will help you to win the match .

Skills may be there but luck will always be there to make you lose.

Instead of hard work one should be doing smart work and decide which is better game which will give better chance of winning.

I believe the people who are going to gamble are far from "smart".

Yes I accept it more than hard work smart work will help you to get more better result in this type of business because smart work is always be accepted by all people and it will be very good for us to get better earning in gambling hard work is important but more than hard work smart work  will play an important role in this field