Does hard work in gambling count?

[Maslate]

I agree that gambling hardwork is more patient and wise in making decisions. because luck won't always with people forever.

And that decision is not choosing a luck based game as hard work does not work in a luck based game, the name alone suggest that it's all about luck.
A gambler can improve his skills if he choose a skilled based games, like sports gambling, I know we can win with luck as well but skills we can be consistent.

[Decimation]

Time spent studying does not increase your odds of winning, so no. It's not like taking a test, its a game of chance. You can study all you want, but it's not changing the outcome, which no one knows to begin with. At that point it's 100% wasting your time, thinking you are improving your odds. However, in some areas this doesn't always hold true, for example: poker. In the LONG run, studying poker strategy will prove beneficial, but it's not instantaneous nor guaranteed.

[boyptc]

When two poker professionals meet in gambling will be a real crackers for the two but never forgotten that the best will be victorious among the two poker professionals. Movies show what poker is made up and ensure that it's been followed and can also ake them winners, poker was my first  favourite games while in school

Not just the best but the luckiest and fiercest will ever win if its for the poker. We are aware about the strategies and others are too aggressive with each of their rounds for every set.

Hardwork will be counted as always but it isn't the sole basis.

[vintages]

Gambling is based on luck. Skills and intelligence are not that important I think. Unless you are talking about card games where you play head to head versus other players. But generally skills and intelligence will not help you in dice, roulette and many other games.

I think it's not just about being lucky but the combination of them all; luck, skills and intelligence.
No matter how lucky one may feel, being a mastery at your game is really important. Depending only on luck in games like dice or roulette isn't sufficient.

Most of these games players will say that they are 'lucky' when they win big, but truth is because they have and use their tactics (combination of mastery and skills). And they most times won't disclose it.

[joshy23]

When it comes to poker,hard work and practice can pay out in the long term.
However,there's always a right way and a wrong way to practice.The gambling addicts are going the wrong way,so they never learn from their mistakes and never gain any experience and knowledge.I'm not a poker expert or trainer,so I can't write about the proper way of training poker.
There's no hard work in the 100% luck based gambling games.

Agree if talking games like dice. roulette. lottery and so on. even though some say it can be predicted by solving a hash or a certain algorithm (website lottery) which I believe is all based on luck too. I agree that gambling hardwork is more patient and wise in making decisions. because luck won't always with people forever.

Luck won't be there always but the skills and knowledge on when to quit when you are not getting any good results can be practiced by doing your hard work, when you manage to stay calm even you are suffering with losing streak that practice can let you stay surviving this activities, you have to pay attentions with additional knowledge and that's all because of your hard work assessing and analyzing every situations inside the gambling house.

[noormcs5]

I am curious to know if someone continually invested a lot of time in studying a game involved in gambling, further if he had played the game a lot to understand the intricacies involved, then can we call him an expert in that gambling game?

Hardwork per say mostly works in situations were there is a guarantee of achieving similar result if previous steps are been repeated over and over again but since in gambling entirely, your previous success doesn't guarantee future results (succes), hardwork then doesn't have much role to play but can still be useful as hardwork does brings about experience which is an advantage in some specific games like sport betting etc.

Handwork and luck are two different things. If you know of certain work and by doing it you will be rewarded, in that case the handwork pay off. the more you work hard, the more benefit you get. This is not true for gambling which depends upon on luck. A person spending full time in gambling is not guarantee to win and get more benefit.

[zhekinsp]

I am curious to know if someone continually invested a lot of time in studying a game involved in gambling, further if he had played the game a lot to understand the intricacies involved, then can we call him an expert in that gambling game? If we do call him an expert then we clearly differentiate his experience and expertise from that of a novice. This clearly shows that the person is capable of winning more as an expert than the novice who really does not have the in-depth understanding of the play.

This brings us to an interesting question if hard work in gambling really pays off? If one puts in a lot of efforts to understand a game involved in gambling, does it mean that all his time has gone down the drain? Certainly no. If gambling were simply a blind guess or a wild shot then even years of studying it makes it useless because one is simply guessing the outcome blindly. But such is not the scenario with gambling in reality. What makes hard work count in gambling?

This further sets off the question of addiction in gambling. Work can also be an addiction for many. But here the addiction could be for perfecting the game and the art of playing. This kind of addiction is to struggle every time for success by proper calculation and review. However, addiction can also be due to pure greed of winning with no clear knowledge of the game. If hard work counts, then we may actually find a solution for a healthier addiction towards success in gambling.

I think the gambling is also need the hard work to be performed that's why I think if you put an effort to become successful in something then the hard work will not never fails that's it is the truth also.

[passwordnow]

I think the gambling is also need the hard work to be performed

Hard work in what way? we used to tell hard work and the definition of it would always be attached to success. But this is gambling and that's a different thing, you just can't be successful in gambling through hard work. Though there can be a good result with that move but it's not going to be like that as much as we think.

that's why I think if you put an effort to become successful in something then the hard work will not never fails that's it is the truth also.

Yes, exerting effort and becoming hardwork will give potential success in the future but again, this is different and it's gambling which you can understand through its definition.

[1982dre]

Even on poker there won't be any assured win while we have lot of experience about playing that game for years.

You can apply what you have experienced with poker but it won't guarantee you a win. You can learn on how to bluff and when to fold but it's just like that but it won't be 100% of winning.

Nope but at least poker also needs some skills so in the end you can get better if you work hard on it. For slots you get press that button as much as you like, but harder work will never let you win more on that.

[passwordnow]

Even on poker there won't be any assured win while we have lot of experience about playing that game for years.

You can apply what you have experienced with poker but it won't guarantee you a win. You can learn on how to bluff and when to fold but it's just like that but it won't be 100% of winning.

Nope but at least poker also needs some skills so in the end you can get better if you work hard on it. For slots you get press that button as much as you like, but harder work will never let you win more on that.

Yes I know about that and that's why I said that what you have experienced with poker can be applied. If you have been playing poker for a long time, you will improve and skills will be included to it.
We know on how slots work and that's why there's no need for hard work with such games that does require you money and luck to play.

[ethereumhunter]

Even on poker there won't be any assured win while we have lot of experience about playing that game for years.

You can apply what you have experienced with poker but it won't guarantee you a win. You can learn on how to bluff and when to fold but it's just like that but it won't be 100% of winning.

Nope but at least poker also needs some skills so in the end you can get better if you work hard on it. For slots you get press that button as much as you like, but harder work will never let you win more on that.

But that will not worth it if you use the money to learn poker because you never know how much money you will spend to master the poker game. But if you can find offline software to be installed on your computer, then that is worth to learn poker. As long as we know how to learn poker game and we can get a good lesson for a poker game, then I am sure that in someday, we can be a pro poker player.

[Ryker1]

maybe capital is the main factor in being able to learn the poker game patterns that you do, of course the lessons you get to be able to play with mature strategies You need to spend a lot of capital first to continue the game. Unlike the case with offline poker games as you mentioned, of course it can be played anytime without having to spend capital

Well, capital is not an important thing, how many thousands of money before you can consider that you are in a good player in poker.
You can practice on offline poker but most of all you have an instinct to read mind of your opponent.
Indeed, you need to practice card assembling/poker hand from higher to lowest.
And most of all you should know how to execute this.

...learning when it is best to check, call, raise, bluff, fold, etc.  

[Spaffin]

You can learn to play card games in any way, but in order to achieve a result, it is not always necessary to use real money bets.  It seems to me that there is already quite a lot of excitement in the card game, even if you play not for something, but in the circle of friends in offline.

[Thanasis]

Even on poker there won't be any assured win while we have lot of experience about playing that game for years.

You can apply what you have experienced with poker but it won't guarantee you a win. You can learn on how to bluff and when to fold but it's just like that but it won't be 100% of winning.

Nope but at least poker also needs some skills so in the end you can get better if you work hard on it. For slots you get press that button as much as you like, but harder work will never let you win more on that.

Yes depends on games but mostly the games depends on luck so our hard work will work for our losses as well if we are not lucky.But if we work hard on affiliate marketing of gambling we can make lot of profit,so how we use our hard work matters in gambling.

[joshy23]

You can learn to play card games in any way, but in order to achieve a result, it is not always necessary to use real money bets.  It seems to me that there is already quite a lot of excitement in the card game, even if you play not for something, but in the circle of friends in offline.

It adds excitement when you are doing good and you are receiving some profits, when you already learned how to make a good strategy while playing either online or with your friends, if there's something that you can win then it's adding the enjoyable experienced, you have to play well since you are expecting to win something out from the game.

[perla]

You can learn to play card games in any way, but in order to achieve a result, it is not always necessary to use real money bets.  It seems to me that there is already quite a lot of excitement in the card game, even if you play not for something, but in the circle of friends in offline.

It adds excitement when you are doing good and you are receiving some profits, when you already learned how to make a good strategy while playing either online or with your friends, if there's something that you can win then it's adding the enjoyable experienced, you have to play well since you are expecting to win something out from the game.

At least we know strategies in gambling game first because basic skill really helpful in card  game. Although not use real money at first time, we can learn something from it. And then like what you said, use our experience to win something from real game.

[Betwrong]

Some gambling games might require a mixture of skill, luck, experience and strategy, so the answer for that is "yes". However, for games that would only require luck and intuition I think the amount of time spent has no bearing, what important is you know the game and it's mechanics.

What "intuition" are you talking about? Indeed we do a lot of things intuitively because the code for that kind of behavior  has been inscripted in our brains for millions of years. (Well, technically not exactly in our brains, but rather in brains of the creatures that later had become Homo Sapiens.) Whatever those creatures where doing, they definitely weren't gambling, so intuition has nothing to do with this activity.

But I completely agree with you regarding luck based games. Hard work can't help you to win in those games. 

[stadus]

But I completely agree with you regarding luck based games. Hard work can't help you to win in those games. 

We are experience gamblers, we understand that because of our experience, but it's sad to see that there are still people out there even though they are aware of our comments and suggestion about this thing, but still want to try to experiment to win.

[lienfaye]

You can learn to play card games in any way, but in order to achieve a result, it is not always necessary to use real money bets.  It seems to me that there is already quite a lot of excitement in the card game, even if you play not for something, but in the circle of friends in offline.

I learned to play card games through my cousins, we're playing just for fun without money involved. This experience gave me an edge to think what strategy to apply everytime I gamble (for card games only particularly tongits and poker).

There are games that is more on luck but there are also games wherein you use what you learned from your past experiences, its just depends on what game you're going to play.

[Best Dreams]

Even on poker there won't be any assured win while we have lot of experience about playing that game for years.

You can apply what you have experienced with poker but it won't guarantee you a win. You can learn on how to bluff and when to fold but it's just like that but it won't be 100% of winning.

Nope but at least poker also needs some skills so in the end you can get better if you work hard on it. For slots you get press that button as much as you like, but harder work will never let you win more on that.

Yes for sure each and ever game has to work hard to learn. Every game has some rules that gambler will have to learn so this is the reason why if you are playing poker you will have to put your effort to win. To get something you will have to bear pain that’s why better enjoy learning about games and enhance your knowledge.