Enjoy?

[VolanicEruptor]

So it turns out my concerns were semi-legit?  

No, however you deserve credit for riling up the clueless.

Bitcoin addresses are public knowledge much like postal addresses.  Say one day I felt stupid and decided I wanted to mail 1 US penny to 10,000 random postal addresses.

Do you know what could happen? You might open your mailbox one day and .... HOLY CRAP there would be a penny in there.  WTF?? How could this happen? You didn't ask for a penny and it was mailed from some anonymous mailbox?  What the hell is going on?  If someone tracking you?  Is this part of some 51% postal attack?  What if they are dusting your finances with this penny so when you deposit it then they can hack your bank account from the inside out.  OH NOES! CALL HOMELAND SECURITY!  

This is the digital equivalent of that, and the reaction is just as silly.

According to the last 10 news posts at blockchain.info, there is a lot more to it than a penny in someones mailbox.. it seems to be a little more complicated than that

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[jongameson]

i'm gonna start sending a dahler to everyone's mailbox (yes i'm satoshi)

[DeathAndTaxes]

According to the last 10 news posts at blockchain.info, there is a lot more to it than a penny in someones mailbox.. it seems to be a little more complicated than that

You are saying that you believe that send you a satoshi is the same thing as the ongoing DDOS attack?  There is a real attack going on which has absolutely nothing with this thread.

[VolanicEruptor]

You didn't actually think when people were talking about the DDOS attack on exchanges there were talking about this send a satoshi transaction did you?

There is a real attack going on which has absolutely nothing with this thread.

I thought that it was related to the dust transactions.. my bad

[Cluster2k]

Aww, and here I was getting excited that someone was sending me a trillionth of a bitcoin at random.  Hello to 18FhZgVNKPAZTC41eosNgTnbGemvXxnMvY, whoever you are.

[nanobtc]

I have a paper wallet with a small (<1btc) balance, that gets sent a small amount from Coinbase every two weeks. This is only a few months old, never been swept.

A couple of days ago I noticed the 1Enjoy and 1Sochi deposits. Tonight I have over 1200 of them from different addresses.

[dyask]

So it turns out my concerns were semi-legit?  

No, however you deserve credit for riling up the clueless.

Bitcoin addresses are public knowledge much like postal addresses.  Say one day I felt stupid and decided I wanted to mail 1 US penny to 10,000 random postal addresses.

Do you know what could happen? You might open your mailbox one day and .... HOLY CRAP there would be a penny in there.  How could this happen? You didn't ask for a penny and it was mailed from some anonymous mailbox?  What the hell is going on?  Has the security of the postal mail system been broken? Is someone tracking you?  What if this is part of some 51% postal attack?  I heard they are "dusting" your finances with this penny so when you deposit it then they can hack your bank account from the inside out.  OH NOES! CALL HOMELAND SECURITY!  We need to stop this.  Someone should put penny detectors on all mail drops to ensure hackers aren't able to destroy the world economy by mailing pennies.   We need to act now.   The entire postal system as we know it could collapse within days if people can just mail things to other people and stuff.

This is the digital equivalent of that, and the reaction is just as silly.

It isn't the equivalent because mailing pennies isn't going to break anyone's mailbox, but this did break some wallets.   Granted the problem is software and that can be fixed.   I don't like this anymore than junk mail all the time.   Personally I hate junk mail.   Additionally my mailbox doesn't remember every single piece of junk mail ever sent to it.   

[DeathAndTaxes]

It isn't the equivalent because mailing pennies isn't going to break anyone's mailbox, but this did break some wallets.

If it broke anyone's wallet then that wallet it so horribly defective that they are in the running for beating MtGox when it comes to worst wallet implementation ever.  You should run for the exit now, because if a wallet can't properly handle an unconfirmed transaction who knows what else they got wrong.  I mean someone sent you money.  A wallet that can't handle that is a joke.  If your bitcoin wallet breaks when someone sends you bitcoins that is generally speaking a bad sign.

[dyask]

It isn't the equivalent because mailing pennies isn't going to break anyone's mailbox, but this did break some wallets.

If it broke anyone's wallet then that wallet it so horribly defective that they are in the running for beating MtGox when it comes to worst wallet implementation ever.  You should run for the exit now, because if a wallet can't properly handle an unconfirmed transaction who knows what else they got wrong.  I mean someone sent you money.  A wallet that can't handle that is a joke.  If your bitcoin wallet breaks when someone sends you bitcoins that is generally speaking a bad sign.

I'm not disagreeing, but as bitcoin grows more mainstream there are going to be more of these types of problems.  

[stompix]

It isn't the equivalent because mailing pennies isn't going to break anyone's mailbox, but this did break some wallets.

If it broke anyone's wallet then that wallet it so horribly defective that they are in the running for beating MtGox when it comes to worst wallet implementation ever.  You should run for the exit now, because if a wallet can't properly handle an unconfirmed transaction who knows what else they got wrong.  I mean someone sent you money.  A wallet that can't handle that is a joke.  If your bitcoin wallet breaks when someone sends you bitcoins that is generally speaking a bad sign.

Do you see a real reason behind this "attack" , if as I assume stealing coins with this method is almost impossible ? Other than wasting people time with those unconfirmed transactions?

[guybrushthreepwood]

My Enjoy Sochi transactions finally disappeared.

[btcash]

My Enjoy Sochi transactions finally disappeared.

I didn't know that Bitcoin-QT removes TXs that didn't get confirmed after a while.

[Mitchell]

My Enjoy Sochi transactions finally disappeared.

I didn't know that Bitcoin-QT removes TXs that didn't get confirmed after a while.

Bitcoin-QT doesn't do that. The Bitcoin Network does that. TX's that don't get confirmed will be removed eventually and the money will be returned to the sender.

[guybrushthreepwood]

My Enjoy Sochi transactions finally disappeared.

I didn't know that Bitcoin-QT removes TXs that didn't get confirmed after a while.

They were on my blockchain.info wallet.

[btcash]

How would you propose changing it?  I guess optionally you could hide transactions below a certain threshold (possibly the same limit as they will be uneconomical to spend anyways), but you can "undo" Bitcoin transactions even ones you don't "want".

That is weird. Form the 0.8.2 changelog:

• Payments (transaction outputs) of 0.543 times the minimum relay fee (0.00005430 BTC) are now considered 'non-standard', because storing them costs the network more than they are worth and spending them will usually cost their owner more in transaction fees than they are worth.
• Non-standard transactions are not relayed across the network, are not included in blocks by most miners, and will not show up in your wallet until they are included in a block.

Do all the people who received this spam use versions prior to 0.8.2? Or does this only affect blockchain.info users because of their custom implementation?

[leopard2]

According to the last 10 news posts at blockchain.info, there is a lot more to it than a penny in someones mailbox.. it seems to be a little more complicated than that

You are saying that you believe that send you a satoshi is the same thing as the ongoing DDOS attack?  There is a real attack going on which has absolutely nothing with this thread.

You are right to some extent but still .. if you receive 1000 pennies, instead of 1, your mailbox is getting problems; if you run a business then such an extremely clogged mailbox could cause serious damage even if you manage to clean them out after awhile.

If such spamming is used in a serious and malicious way, it would not really be good for BTC would it? What consumer would want to use a wallet with hundreds of such transactions in it?

Spam mail does not cause damage to my email software but clogs it up nevertheless.

I am afraid that this is the beginning of something awful. We witness the birth of crypto spamming. 

[stompix]

According to the last 10 news posts at blockchain.info, there is a lot more to it than a penny in someones mailbox.. it seems to be a little more complicated than that

You are saying that you believe that send you a satoshi is the same thing as the ongoing DDOS attack?  There is a real attack going on which has absolutely nothing with this thread.

You are right to some extent but still .. if you receive 1000 pennies, instead of 1, your mailbox is getting problems; if you run a business then such an extremely clogged mailbox could cause serious damage even if you manage to clean them out after awhile.

If such spamming is used in a serious and malicious way, it would not really be good for BTC would it? What consumer would want to use a wallet with hundreds of such transactions in it?

Spam mail does not cause damage to my email software but clogs it up nevertheless.

I am afraid that this is the beginning of something awful. We witness the birth of crypto spamming. 

That started a long time ago , one of the reasons the minimal transaction fee was imposed.

[DannyHamilton]

You are right to some extent but still .. if you receive 1000 pennies, instead of 1, your mailbox is getting problems;

Now there is a problem I'd like to have.

Ok everyone, I'm making a request that you please spam me with pennies.  Put a penny into an envelope and mail it to me.  As many as possible, but only 1 penny per envelope.  Thank you very much.

[cAPSLOCK]

It seems whoever is sending these is still at it.

[questionableideas]

Got more of the spam stuff. It seems like whoever is behind this is getting farther back into the blockchain, as its stumbled upon addresses I last used a few months ago.