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This shit is a broken record. They whine about scams, yet no one has been scammed except for the people who have mistakenly mined the wrong coin by their community posting fake PANDA pools here...
Exactly. The Panda Coin is not a scam, nor is it a pump and dumpers bitch - it is an excellent investment opportunity with the potential to at least be valued around half of whatever Doge is trading at in the short term, parity and higher in the long term. It was always going to go down while Vert is being pumped but those who flog off their stash at this price will probably be sorry - you may get lucky and be able to buy back in a tad lower than you sold em for but once that Vert bubble bursts people are going to be pouring in BTC to this coin once more. I think the lowest we will ever see will be 45-50ish before massive buy walls form once more. Terms of the IPO were stated clearly well before launch, launch went really smoothly for miners (that's me, I don't invest or trade coins)... investors who are holding still well in the black, i got as much as a 1btc investor by mining the first couple days... why the fucking whining? what's the scam? plenty of IPOs exist, everyone knows there's pumps and dumps going on in all coins most just aren't a part of them. The only real dumb part of PANDA (in my opinion as i posted before launch) was the name...
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February 19, 2014, 11:03:35 PM |
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so pandacoin is doing good things i heard? its gonna save some pandas some are in a zoo? arent they kind of saved already? someone also should link this thread/all info about this coin to WWF pr dude.. it might be not the best adv for them to be part of this.. umm.. 'not scam'. ugh! peace!
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February 19, 2014, 11:58:33 PM |
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Still think it's funny the "devs" for this coin are trying to claim "The Panda Coin" is anything other than a rebranded Vertcoin. Didn't even bother renaming our miner.
When you're all done being jerked around about this oligarch-run coin, use our miner to mine Vertcoin and enjoy a real, long-term investable coin. If nothing else, there was zero premining.
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February 19, 2014, 11:59:30 PM |
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so pandacoin is doing good things i heard? its gonna save some pandas some are in a zoo? arent they kind of saved already? someone also should link this thread/all info about this coin to WWF pr dude.. it might be not the best adv for them to be part of this.. umm.. 'not scam'. ugh! peace!
https://i.imgur.com/IJMnJPo.pngHi this is a screenshot of a spreadsheet I am working with for the foundation. The WWF stuff is to be totally transparent once we finish the fundraiser (See reddit post: http://www.reddit.com/r/thepandacoin/comments/1y0z6x/first_donation_australia_zoo/ - this states end of the month). Received Donations: 564,429.9600003 Target: 1 Million Address: PpjKd5y7X8siSF1c7Qx599hopDrqkB4Ds2 I hope this clarifies. Happy to address further concerns if you have any.
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February 20, 2014, 12:02:44 AM |
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Exactly. The Panda Coin is not a scam, nor is it a pump and dumpers bitch - it is an excellent investment opportunity with the potential to at least be valued around half of whatever Doge is trading at in the short term, parity and higher in the long term. It was always going to go down while Vert is being pumped but those who flog off their stash at this price will probably be sorry - you may get lucky and be able to buy back in a tad lower than you sold em for but once that Vert bubble bursts people are going to be pouring in BTC to this coin once more. I think the lowest we will ever see will be 45-50ish before massive buy walls form once more.
You realize that Vertcoin is well on its way to becoming the next "token coin" after Litecoin right? Every Nfactor coin that comes after Vert is just going to be another altcoin. Vertcoin will, simply put, be the standard all other NF coins are based on. PANDA is already little more than a simple rebranding of VTC.
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Exactly. The Panda Coin is not a scam, nor is it a pump and dumpers bitch - it is an excellent investment opportunity with the potential to at least be valued around half of whatever Doge is trading at in the short term, parity and higher in the long term. It was always going to go down while Vert is being pumped but those who flog off their stash at this price will probably be sorry - you may get lucky and be able to buy back in a tad lower than you sold em for but once that Vert bubble bursts people are going to be pouring in BTC to this coin once more. I think the lowest we will ever see will be 45-50ish before massive buy walls form once more.
You realize that Vertcoin is well on its way to becoming the next "token coin" after Litecoin right? Every Nfactor coin that comes after Vert is just going to be another altcoin. Vertcoin will, simply put, be the standard all other NF coins are based on. PANDA is already little more than a simple rebranding of VTC. So go buy verts
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Exactly. The Panda Coin is not a scam, nor is it a pump and dumpers bitch - it is an excellent investment opportunity with the potential to at least be valued around half of whatever Doge is trading at in the short term, parity and higher in the long term. It was always going to go down while Vert is being pumped but those who flog off their stash at this price will probably be sorry - you may get lucky and be able to buy back in a tad lower than you sold em for but once that Vert bubble bursts people are going to be pouring in BTC to this coin once more. I think the lowest we will ever see will be 45-50ish before massive buy walls form once more.
You realize that Vertcoin is well on its way to becoming the next "token coin" after Litecoin right? Every Nfactor coin that comes after Vert is just going to be another altcoin. Vertcoin will, simply put, be the standard all other NF coins are based on. PANDA is already little more than a simple rebranding of VTC. No need to explain, really. Vertcoin speaks for itself, and its already huge community is undeniable. The only, and I mean only way Wolong is able to prolong the misery is to try and dump his VERT holdings, which...he already brags about numerous times on his twitter account. To those who currently hold shares in this scam coin...ask yourself...how much faith do you put in an investment headed by a man whos only crutch to keep it within viewing distance in the rearview mirror is to try and sabotage via direct market manipulation? Obviously he knows there is nothing of significance planned for this coin in the future other than a series of pump n dumps only to line his own pockets. LOL. Nuff said. The smart ones will dump this junk while they still have value to cling to and invest in the real ORIGINAL future successor to litecoin...which is Vert.
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Exactly. The Panda Coin is not a scam, nor is it a pump and dumpers bitch - it is an excellent investment opportunity with the potential to at least be valued around half of whatever Doge is trading at in the short term, parity and higher in the long term. It was always going to go down while Vert is being pumped but those who flog off their stash at this price will probably be sorry - you may get lucky and be able to buy back in a tad lower than you sold em for but once that Vert bubble bursts people are going to be pouring in BTC to this coin once more. I think the lowest we will ever see will be 45-50ish before massive buy walls form once more.
You realize that Vertcoin is well on its way to becoming the next "token coin" after Litecoin right? Every Nfactor coin that comes after Vert is just going to be another altcoin. Vertcoin will, simply put, be the standard all other NF coins are based on. PANDA is already little more than a simple rebranding of VTC. No need to explain, really. Vertcoin speaks for itself, and its already huge community is undeniable. The only, and I mean only way Wolong is able to prolong the misery is to try and dump his VERT holdings, which...he already brags about numerous times on his twitter account. To those who currently hold shares in this scam coin...ask yourself...how much faith do you put in an investment headed by a man whos only crutch to keep it within viewing distance in the rearview mirror is to try and sabotage via direct market manipulation? Obviously he knows there is nothing of significance planned for this coin in the future other than a series of pump n dumps only to line his own pockets. LOL. Nuff said. The smart ones will dump this junk while they still have value to cling to and invest in the real ORIGINAL future successor to litecoin...which is Vert. Trading Rule Numer 1: Buy when the price is going down and sell when it is going up. It's a foolish trader who purchases during a pump. VERT may well be the next big thing, but now ain't the time to invest. What goes up must come down and chances are you are only providing a means for those who bought before the pump (or caused it...) to dump for a profit. You may get lucky and it continues to go up, up, up - or you may end up paying double the price for a coin when the dump starts.
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February 20, 2014, 12:27:14 AM |
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Panda is doing great only 5 days young wow great job devs...thanks devs for all your hard work im still mining!
Panda Phq3okjsF3sD777fWmhcPGJdf8YcF4C6Lt
you are very welcome handsome panda
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February 20, 2014, 12:42:28 AM |
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Hi Guys,
I have kept pretty quiet today as I wanted to see what the general tone is from people.
There are a few things that are abundantly obvious
1. We have grown incredibly fast for a 5 day old coin and a lot of people can see that.. we have over 100k views on here with almost 200 pages..
2. however, contained within those 200 pages is a lot of mixed feedback from people and thats completely fair, we expect it and we/I am doing my best to address all points in the politest way possible in order to bring some order to all the cries of scamming and whatever else.
3. A lot of you guys who are hating on the coin seem to forget that there are a team of people behind this coin, not just Wolong. What I mean by this, is that whilst wolongs is indeed involved, you need to set aside your opinions of him for a minute and consider the other team members on board whilst making an informed decision as to whether or not this coin is for you.
4. Our devs have a very good track record with UNO and it has been an established coin for a long time - I know first hand that not a single person on the team would put themselves in a position where their reputations could be irreparably damaged, myself included, even just from the point of view of being a community facing team member.
5. Lets focus on the bigger picture here.. will this coin succeed? Who knows.. time will certainly tell, but we will be doing our utmost to make that a certainty every step of the way, i can promise you that
6. Lets address the elephant in the room.. Wolong.. is it fair to say that he is not doing this out of some huge altruistic gesture? Absolutely, and it would be stupid to think that. Second, lets not beat around the bush, everyone is involved with crypto for financial gain and what not, the community aspect is fantastic and that is no doubt a secondary reason as to why people are here. Do I believe that wolong is going to make OTHER people money? I don't know, but I hear he has already, multiple times over.. Does that mean that I will personally stake my life savings on his words/promises and whatever else.. absolutely not, but thats not bceause i don't trust the guy, its beacuse thats just my character and i want to be open about it, but thats me.
7. The whole argument with regard to innovation - this is going to become a moot point in a month or so when the vast majority of coins being released are goign to be implementing these technologies as they are a much needed market correction which IN MY OPINION should be rolled out as the defacto way of building new alts (that is with N and KGW). I know a lot of you guys are rooting for vert..but theres no need to 'root' for anyone, we are not at war here and we can certainly each have our own market share without stepping on eachothers toes. We live in an open source community where the drive is to create innovation which can be shared.. not get in to troll pseudo-patent wars over something that is actually going to benefit both past and present devs of new alts.
to summarise - I would like to give you my unbiased opinion, and i sincerely hope that to both 'schools of thought' here you will take me at my word. you are all entitled for your own personal reasons to make your own decisions on wolong.. but please be more considerate to the fact that wolong is not doing anything day-to-day to maintain PANDA from a tech standpoint, the network or speak to you all for the most part and to please realise that there are many moving parts to this machine and we hope that whilst your opinion of wolong may be slightly 'low'.. we encourage you to look beyond that to what we are trying to do and work toward as a community.
I am in no way trying to 'win anyone over' here, i am just trying to be fair with those who have taken it upon themselves to hammer this thread with accusations, big black and red letters and all-round mention of distrust/disgust for the guy.
Like I have said from day 1, you are not being forced to mine the coin, we appreciate your view if you are not interested and we are massively grateful to everyone who has jumped on the PANDA bamboo canoe and taken a ride with us, its going to be great
sev
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February 20, 2014, 12:51:05 AM |
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Hi Guys,
I have kept pretty quiet today as I wanted to see what the general tone is from people.
There are a few things that are abundantly obvious
1. We have grown incredibly fast for a 5 day old coin and a lot of people can see that.. we have over 100k views on here with almost 200 pages..
2. however, contained within those 200 pages is a lot of mixed feedback from people and thats completely fair, we expect it and we/I am doing my best to address all points in the politest way possible in order to bring some order to all the cries of scamming and whatever else.
3. A lot of you guys who are hating on the coin seem to forget that there are a team of people behind this coin, not just Wolong. What I mean by this, is that whilst wolongs is indeed involved, you need to set aside your opinions of him for a minute and consider the other team members on board whilst making an informed decision as to whether or not this coin is for you.
4. Our devs have a very good track record with UNO and it has been an established coin for a long time - I know first hand that not a single person on the team would put themselves in a position where their reputations could be irreparably damaged, myself included, even just from the point of view of being a community facing team member.
5. Lets focus on the bigger picture here.. will this coin succeed? Who knows.. time will certainly tell, but we will be doing our utmost to make that a certainty every step of the way, i can promise you that
6. Lets address the elephant in the room.. Wolong.. is it fair to say that he is not doing this out of some huge altruistic gesture? Absolutely, and it would be stupid to think that. Second, lets not beat around the bush, everyone is involved with crypto for financial gain and what not, the community aspect is fantastic and that is no doubt a secondary reason as to why people are here. Do I believe that wolong is going to make OTHER people money? I don't know, but I hear he has already, multiple times over.. Does that mean that I will personally stake my life savings on his words/promises and whatever else.. absolutely not, but thats not bceause i don't trust the guy, its beacuse thats just my character and i want to be open about it, but thats me.
7. The whole argument with regard to innovation - this is going to become a moot point in a month or so when the vast majority of coins being released are goign to be implementing these technologies as they are a much needed market correction which IN MY OPINION should be rolled out as the defacto way of building new alts (that is with N and KGW). I know a lot of you guys are rooting for vert..but theres no need to 'root' for anyone, we are not at war here and we can certainly each have our own market share without stepping on eachothers toes. We live in an open source community where the drive is to create innovation which can be shared.. not get in to troll pseudo-patent wars over something that is actually going to benefit both past and present devs of new alts.
to summarise - I would like to give you my unbiased opinion, and i sincerely hope that to both 'schools of thought' here you will take me at my word. you are all entitled for your own personal reasons to make your own decisions on wolong.. but please be more considerate to the fact that wolong is not doing anything day-to-day to maintain PANDA from a tech standpoint, the network or speak to you all for the most part and to please realise that there are many moving parts to this machine and we hope that whilst your opinion of wolong may be slightly 'low'.. we encourage you to look beyond that to what we are trying to do and work toward as a community.
I am in no way trying to 'win anyone over' here, i am just trying to be fair with those who have taken it upon themselves to hammer this thread with accusations, big black and red letters and all-round mention of distrust/disgust for the guy.
Like I have said from day 1, you are not being forced to mine the coin, we appreciate your view if you are not interested and we are massively grateful to everyone who has jumped on the PANDA bamboo canoe and taken a ride with us, its going to be great
sev
Nice one man. Let me confess, i was a hater at first but became a believer now
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February 20, 2014, 01:05:34 AM |
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Why does Bitdefender block the official site? Is there a web wallet?
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February 20, 2014, 01:11:18 AM |
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Exactly. The Panda Coin is not a scam, nor is it a pump and dumpers bitch - it is an excellent investment opportunity with the potential to at least be valued around half of whatever Doge is trading at in the short term, parity and higher in the long term. It was always going to go down while Vert is being pumped but those who flog off their stash at this price will probably be sorry - you may get lucky and be able to buy back in a tad lower than you sold em for but once that Vert bubble bursts people are going to be pouring in BTC to this coin once more. I think the lowest we will ever see will be 45-50ish before massive buy walls form once more.
You realize that Vertcoin is well on its way to becoming the next "token coin" after Litecoin right? Every Nfactor coin that comes after Vert is just going to be another altcoin. Vertcoin will, simply put, be the standard all other NF coins are based on. PANDA is already little more than a simple rebranding of VTC. So go buy verts Don't need to, I mined plenty since I supported it from the start. I'm still waiting for the PANDA devs to admit they didn't really "develop" anything and instead just rebranded Vertcoin. Vertcoin is the Apple of the 80's and 90's, innovating and advancing the crypto industry. PANDA is, well, Apple of now, but without the revenue; stealing ideas and trying to act like they were original.
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February 20, 2014, 01:17:13 AM |
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+1 sevoque. thanks for the update.
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February 20, 2014, 01:25:43 AM |
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I have to say, I love the volatility of most coins. That's where most of my gains come from.
Sadly...or not so sadly, this coin has been the most stable of any I've mined or invested in. The launch was smooth and the IRC community has been great. I'm in this coin for the long haul. Not sure what all the hate is about. If you don't like the coin or don't like Wolong, then move on. Increasing the page count only draws more attention to this coin you hate so much.
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February 20, 2014, 01:27:12 AM |
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Hi Guys,
I have kept pretty quiet today as I wanted to see what the general tone is from people.
There are a few things that are abundantly obvious
1. We have grown incredibly fast for a 5 day old coin and a lot of people can see that.. we have over 100k views on here with almost 200 pages..
2. however, contained within those 200 pages is a lot of mixed feedback from people and thats completely fair, we expect it and we/I am doing my best to address all points in the politest way possible in order to bring some order to all the cries of scamming and whatever else.
3. A lot of you guys who are hating on the coin seem to forget that there are a team of people behind this coin, not just Wolong. What I mean by this, is that whilst wolongs is indeed involved, you need to set aside your opinions of him for a minute and consider the other team members on board whilst making an informed decision as to whether or not this coin is for you.
4. Our devs have a very good track record with UNO and it has been an established coin for a long time - I know first hand that not a single person on the team would put themselves in a position where their reputations could be irreparably damaged, myself included, even just from the point of view of being a community facing team member.
5. Lets focus on the bigger picture here.. will this coin succeed? Who knows.. time will certainly tell, but we will be doing our utmost to make that a certainty every step of the way, i can promise you that
6. Lets address the elephant in the room.. Wolong.. is it fair to say that he is not doing this out of some huge altruistic gesture? Absolutely, and it would be stupid to think that. Second, lets not beat around the bush, everyone is involved with crypto for financial gain and what not, the community aspect is fantastic and that is no doubt a secondary reason as to why people are here. Do I believe that wolong is going to make OTHER people money? I don't know, but I hear he has already, multiple times over.. Does that mean that I will personally stake my life savings on his words/promises and whatever else.. absolutely not, but thats not bceause i don't trust the guy, its beacuse thats just my character and i want to be open about it, but thats me.
7. The whole argument with regard to innovation - this is going to become a moot point in a month or so when the vast majority of coins being released are goign to be implementing these technologies as they are a much needed market correction which IN MY OPINION should be rolled out as the defacto way of building new alts (that is with N and KGW). I know a lot of you guys are rooting for vert..but theres no need to 'root' for anyone, we are not at war here and we can certainly each have our own market share without stepping on eachothers toes. We live in an open source community where the drive is to create innovation which can be shared.. not get in to troll pseudo-patent wars over something that is actually going to benefit both past and present devs of new alts.
to summarise - I would like to give you my unbiased opinion, and i sincerely hope that to both 'schools of thought' here you will take me at my word. you are all entitled for your own personal reasons to make your own decisions on wolong.. but please be more considerate to the fact that wolong is not doing anything day-to-day to maintain PANDA from a tech standpoint, the network or speak to you all for the most part and to please realise that there are many moving parts to this machine and we hope that whilst your opinion of wolong may be slightly 'low'.. we encourage you to look beyond that to what we are trying to do and work toward as a community.
I am in no way trying to 'win anyone over' here, i am just trying to be fair with those who have taken it upon themselves to hammer this thread with accusations, big black and red letters and all-round mention of distrust/disgust for the guy.
Like I have said from day 1, you are not being forced to mine the coin, we appreciate your view if you are not interested and we are massively grateful to everyone who has jumped on the PANDA bamboo canoe and taken a ride with us, its going to be great
sev
+1
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February 20, 2014, 01:35:41 AM |
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panda is chinese manipulated ass coin, sure!
wolong is a joke claiming "kill doge and vert", which he has nothing in contribution but only riding on the train.
we all know vert is on healthy increase!!!
wolong is damnly sure chinese scammer.
anyway panda marketcap is too much high now!
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February 20, 2014, 01:55:00 AM |
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Hi Guys,
I have kept pretty quiet today as I wanted to see what the general tone is from people.
There are a few things that are abundantly obvious
1. We have grown incredibly fast for a 5 day old coin and a lot of people can see that.. we have over 100k views on here with almost 200 pages..
2. however, contained within those 200 pages is a lot of mixed feedback from people and thats completely fair, we expect it and we/I am doing my best to address all points in the politest way possible in order to bring some order to all the cries of scamming and whatever else.
3. A lot of you guys who are hating on the coin seem to forget that there are a team of people behind this coin, not just Wolong. What I mean by this, is that whilst wolongs is indeed involved, you need to set aside your opinions of him for a minute and consider the other team members on board whilst making an informed decision as to whether or not this coin is for you.
4. Our devs have a very good track record with UNO and it has been an established coin for a long time - I know first hand that not a single person on the team would put themselves in a position where their reputations could be irreparably damaged, myself included, even just from the point of view of being a community facing team member.
5. Lets focus on the bigger picture here.. will this coin succeed? Who knows.. time will certainly tell, but we will be doing our utmost to make that a certainty every step of the way, i can promise you that
6. Lets address the elephant in the room.. Wolong.. is it fair to say that he is not doing this out of some huge altruistic gesture? Absolutely, and it would be stupid to think that. Second, lets not beat around the bush, everyone is involved with crypto for financial gain and what not, the community aspect is fantastic and that is no doubt a secondary reason as to why people are here. Do I believe that wolong is going to make OTHER people money? I don't know, but I hear he has already, multiple times over.. Does that mean that I will personally stake my life savings on his words/promises and whatever else.. absolutely not, but thats not bceause i don't trust the guy, its beacuse thats just my character and i want to be open about it, but thats me.
7. The whole argument with regard to innovation - this is going to become a moot point in a month or so when the vast majority of coins being released are goign to be implementing these technologies as they are a much needed market correction which IN MY OPINION should be rolled out as the defacto way of building new alts (that is with N and KGW). I know a lot of you guys are rooting for vert..but theres no need to 'root' for anyone, we are not at war here and we can certainly each have our own market share without stepping on eachothers toes. We live in an open source community where the drive is to create innovation which can be shared.. not get in to troll pseudo-patent wars over something that is actually going to benefit both past and present devs of new alts.
to summarise - I would like to give you my unbiased opinion, and i sincerely hope that to both 'schools of thought' here you will take me at my word. you are all entitled for your own personal reasons to make your own decisions on wolong.. but please be more considerate to the fact that wolong is not doing anything day-to-day to maintain PANDA from a tech standpoint, the network or speak to you all for the most part and to please realise that there are many moving parts to this machine and we hope that whilst your opinion of wolong may be slightly 'low'.. we encourage you to look beyond that to what we are trying to do and work toward as a community.
I am in no way trying to 'win anyone over' here, i am just trying to be fair with those who have taken it upon themselves to hammer this thread with accusations, big black and red letters and all-round mention of distrust/disgust for the guy.
Like I have said from day 1, you are not being forced to mine the coin, we appreciate your view if you are not interested and we are massively grateful to everyone who has jumped on the PANDA bamboo canoe and taken a ride with us, its going to be great
sev
Probably best post you made in this thread instead of acting like all the trolls...
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February 20, 2014, 01:58:41 AM |
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Hey thanks man, what about the website though? Is it just me?
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