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July 10, 2018, 04:06:20 PM
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Its so sad when we have been made to believe its bounty hunters who dump their bounty tokens immediately after ICO and so devalue the coins on the market. Because of this notion, project managers these days try to delay bounty rewards while some even go ahead to give small rewards so that the actions of bounty hunters will not affect the price of their coins. Now I participated in this bounty and we were paid late as usual. We went to the market and realized the price was already down, even below the ICO price. So who caused it ? I think we should have a second look at this issue. Don't you think its the investors who get bonuses during the ICO who try to dump their bonuses for profit and not the bounty hunters as we have been made to believe?. Let me hear your opinions guys
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July 10, 2018, 04:16:35 PM
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You may have come up with the right assumption. There are actually whales who buy huge portions of the tokens and come the token end of the ICO, they dump their coins in order to gather profits. Once the token gets listed at an exchange, these whales sell all their tokens. Because of this, the price of the token goes down.

This is not the case all the time, however, as it is possible that the ICO has not been as successful.
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July 10, 2018, 04:27:44 PM
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I think each ICO is different than the other. There are many factors you can look at to give you a hint who's selling the most. Usually seed investors and private sale got huge bonuses and some with lockup, I think if there's no lockup most likely would be the private investors as most of them right now are VCs and all what they care about it a quick $$

In Other cases, if the bounty is huge and been distributed before listing, unfortunately, many bounty hunters sell at market price.
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July 10, 2018, 04:35:41 PM
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You have made a very good assumption there. Bounty hunters are always the ones who are blamed. I think we should look more into this issue and find who the real dumpers are

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July 11, 2018, 03:04:23 PM
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You may have come up with the right assumption. There are actually whales who buy huge portions of the tokens and come the token end of the ICO, they dump their coins in order to gather profits. Once the token gets listed at an exchange, these whales sell all their tokens. Because of this, the price of the token goes down.

This is not the case all the time, however, as it is possible that the ICO has not been as successful.
Yes you have a point there, because the whales are those who own higher percentages of the coins, a dump from even one of them can disrupt the market price significantly compared to small amount own by the hunters
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July 11, 2018, 03:13:19 PM
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My opinion that price dump is the result of profit fixing of Private investors, pre-Sale and Pre-pre-Sale investors with huge bonuses and unfair developers and only in some cases bountyhunters are the reason.
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July 11, 2018, 03:21:40 PM
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Managers has the right to do what they think will be beneficial to the project/ICO, if they think that its fine to let the investors have their tokens first to trade, its okay.

You're over thinking about your tokens/stakes but you haven't put it on your mind that developers can also cause dump.
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July 11, 2018, 03:23:37 PM
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It all depends on how big the bounty pool was, and on what kind of bonuses for investors were at the sales stage. If the bounty pool was not big then it can not affect the price in any way, and the same with bonuses.
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July 11, 2018, 03:29:00 PM
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Its so sad when we have been made to believe its bounty hunters who dump their bounty tokens immediately after ICO and so devalue the coins on the market. Because of this notion, project managers these days try to delay bounty rewards while some even go ahead to give small rewards so that the actions of bounty hunters will not affect the price of their coins. Now I participated in this bounty and we were paid late as usual. We went to the market and realized the price was already down, even below the ICO price. So who caused it ? I think we should have a second look at this issue. Don't you think its the investors who get bonuses during the ICO who try to dump their bonuses for profit and not the bounty hunters as we have been made to believe?. Let me hear your opinions guys
Those pre or private sale participants and i believe about that. Remember there is an ico that offers more than 40% bonus to the early investors through the way called private sale. I guess they are dumping their bonus as fast as possible to get the fast buck. That's my thought about that.

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July 11, 2018, 03:30:50 PM
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Bounty hunters are the first to sell their tokens, as they did not buy them.

They are not investors and they want to take their money as early as possible

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July 11, 2018, 03:32:50 PM
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What I want to say about this. This is your choice where to participate. No one is immune from falling or staying with a full zero with participation in the ICO. But I'll tell you one thing to participate in proven companies and all the encouragement is waiting for you.
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July 11, 2018, 03:33:07 PM
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I would assume that bounty hunters aren't a big part of it, since most ICOs issue a very limited percentage of tokens for bounties.
Usually it's not more than 5% which goes towards bounty rewards.

Investors who were able to buy cheap might sell immediately as they make a profit at launch.

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July 11, 2018, 03:36:00 PM
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From my observation, both bounty hunters and ICO investors are guilty of dumping coins/tokens. Usually, coins/tokens for bounty hunters and ICO investors are distributed at the same time so I was surprise that bounty payments were delayed. They should have just released it and probably lock for a few months.
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July 11, 2018, 03:37:38 PM
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Main reason is project dev don't want to paid the bounty reward, or hope to reduce total tokens allocated, they only reserve below 5% of total tokens to bounty campaign, even all the bounty hunter immediately dump their coins, it's also won't affect tokens price, most of the project paid the reward within 1 or 2 month, who's own most of the tokens? Answer is project team/founder, they want to cash out Cryptocurrencies to fiat and told investor price dump because of bounty hunter

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July 11, 2018, 03:40:17 PM
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i think you have an point also that some investors that has whales they can really manipulate the ups and down of an ICO project. they can supply almost all small buyers of that coins while also earning because of there big bonuses while it still an ICO project. but not all ICO projects are like this, sometimes the cause of early dump of every token is lack of support to the team after the ICO ends, investors will also sell immediately there holdings so that will not loose what they invested.

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July 11, 2018, 03:43:04 PM
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I think every bounty hunters don't dump their coins. Most of the bounty hunter who got a large amount of token, they keep holding their token. And others hunters sell their coin to make a quick money. And, Presale investors sell their coin at a very cheap price because they got an extra bonus. So, We shouldn't blame all bounty huntersd and all presale investors.

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July 11, 2018, 03:44:20 PM
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Bounty hunters would of course dump the coin first but the amount they hold don't make any visible effect on the price. It's the early investors that goes with a visible dump.
The early investors have coins that have cost them about 1/3 cheaper than the ICO price in average and they would be keen to profit from that.
So, it's the different prices of tokens during the sale which is the main reason for the price drop.
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July 11, 2018, 03:47:05 PM
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Bounty hunters are the first to sell their tokens, as they did not buy them.

They are not investors and they want to take their money as early as possible
False. How can they be the first to sell if the tokens are distributed later than the investors? This is a common practice with ICOs having a bounty campaign. There's also some instances that bounty tokens are vested and hunters are forced to wait for the tokens to unlock after 6 months. Now, who do you think sold first?

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July 11, 2018, 03:48:20 PM
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Its so sad when we have been made to believe its bounty hunters who dump their bounty tokens immediately after ICO and so devalue the coins on the market. Because of this notion, project managers these days try to delay bounty rewards while some even go ahead to give small rewards so that the actions of bounty hunters will not affect the price of their coins. Now I participated in this bounty and we were paid late as usual. We went to the market and realized the price was already down, even below the ICO price. So who caused it ? I think we should have a second look at this issue. Don't you think its the investors who get bonuses during the ICO who try to dump their bonuses for profit and not the bounty hunters as we have been made to believe?. Let me hear your opinions guys

I think miners are the one who's responsible for dumping the price of the coins which are mineable. They mine it initially when complexity is very low thereby accumulating a huge amount of tokens and then selling it when it launched on the exchange. Airdroppers and bounty hunters are also responsible for dumping of the price but not to an extent which miners are. Also right now several projects are following the approach of locking airdrop and bounty hunter tokens to a period varies from 6-12 months. I think it's a good strategy considering project wants to retain the trust of the investors and buyers.
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July 11, 2018, 03:49:56 PM
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Its so sad when we have been made to believe its bounty hunters who dump their bounty tokens immediately after ICO and so devalue the coins on the market. Because of this notion, project managers these days try to delay bounty rewards while some even go ahead to give small rewards so that the actions of bounty hunters will not affect the price of their coins. Now I participated in this bounty and we were paid late as usual. We went to the market and realized the price was already down, even below the ICO price. So who caused it ? I think we should have a second look at this issue. Don't you think its the investors who get bonuses during the ICO who try to dump their bonuses for profit and not the bounty hunters as we have been made to believe?. Let me hear your opinions guys

Bounty hunters get their coins usually a month after the investors. For often, immediately sold people who participated in the project at the Pre-ICO stage. They are more profitable to sell for 20-30% of profit and buy 2-3 times cheaper in a couple of days.
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