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July 11, 2018, 03:50:45 PM
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Most likely bounty hunters. They received their tokens for free and they will be satisfied with such earnings. But investors who want to multiply their investments will keep tokens to the best price.
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July 11, 2018, 03:50:50 PM
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many people assume if the bounty hunter is the one who causes the price to fall even can be far below the price of ICO, they are blamed for only getting coins for free, but I think the market price drops because investors are throwing bonuses at very cheap prices so the price continues to fall ( tokens earned bounty hunter not as much as bonuses obtained by investors)

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July 11, 2018, 03:52:39 PM
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I think investors, because the division of coin to bounty is only 0.5 - 5% of sales and a percentage of that size I think it is difficult to make the price dump.

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July 11, 2018, 03:53:17 PM
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Bounty tokens typically account for only 1-3% of the total number of ICO tokens. So it's not the fault of the bounty hunters. When all bounty token are sold out, it does not affect the price of the token. The reason is that the ICO investors have sold all their tokens after being listed at some exchange.

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July 11, 2018, 03:53:30 PM
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Nowadays we can see a lot of coins going down below ICO price right after the release. Mainly it causes because of not being listed on a good volume exchange. If the ICO had a bounty campaign, it is possible that the bounty hunters are dumping. They got the tokens free, so will possibly sell at any availabile rate.
It's also possible that the private and presale buyers got bonuses, which may be the reason for dump.
Finally, the market is bearish, so all projects are affected.
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July 11, 2018, 03:54:40 PM
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I believe bounty hunters are dumping coins, as they don't trust a lot of altcoins. They fear that these coins would fail in future, so they are dumping coins whatever value they get.
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July 11, 2018, 03:55:20 PM
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First of all, the price always falls due to investors who sell their coins almost immediately after receiving them, bounty hunters are not able to greatly influence the rate because their share is much less than the share of investors.
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July 11, 2018, 03:56:51 PM
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Bounty hunters usually receive their tokens later than investors. Moreover, very often bounty pool has a very small percentage of the total number of tokens (1-2%), so the sales of bounty hunters have little effect on pricing.

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July 11, 2018, 03:57:54 PM
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The usual dumper of freshly distributed coins are the Bounty Hunters because 70-80% of bounty hunters don't hold the coins they get, after the got it they will immediately dump it thus some of the bounty campaign are delaying the distribution for the bounty hunters for like 1 month so that it wont affect the future price of the coin.
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July 11, 2018, 03:58:07 PM
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If investors received large bonuses on pre-sale, then they can start selling tokens as soon as the token appears on the crypto exchange
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July 11, 2018, 04:01:52 PM
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Bounty hunters can not discard their received tokens earlier than investors. Investors get their tokens in the ICO process at significant discounts and it is very profitable for them to immediately sell them at an ICO price. You can immediately get a double profit if the token was purchased with a 50 percent discount. Bounty hunters now within a month, or even more, are waiting for token payments after the end of the ICO and only after a considerable period of time have the opportunity to get with the received token on the exchange. By that time, as a rule, tokens can descend in price two, or even more times. Therefore, there is no need to trouble about lowering the price of the original token to dump bounty hunters.
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July 11, 2018, 04:03:17 PM
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Its so sad when we have been made to believe its bounty hunters who dump their bounty tokens immediately after ICO and so devalue the coins on the market. Because of this notion, project managers these days try to delay bounty rewards while some even go ahead to give small rewards so that the actions of bounty hunters will not affect the price of their coins. Now I participated in this bounty and we were paid late as usual. We went to the market and realized the price was already down, even below the ICO price. So who caused it ? I think we should have a second look at this issue. Don't you think its the investors who get bonuses during the ICO who try to dump their bonuses for profit and not the bounty hunters as we have been made to believe?. Let me hear your opinions guys

That's rude, how could that happen? if the Bounty allocation is just 1% or 2% in the total sold Tokens were go to the Bounty Participants and I think not all Bounty hunters well dump there Bounty tokens, that's nonsense and no logic lets say some bounty People are selling there token maybe 0.5% that amount will effect the price temporarily Aside of being part time  Bounty hunter i am also and Investor and I'm notice that some or most of the Investors sell there Tokens with (30-50% Bonus) like I do in one project Ive Invested 1.8 Eth worth of tokens plus 40% Bonus? when the 1st exchange listing was open I'm sell it Immediately no more chitchat. lets be honest its a clever move to sell or regret. when the price sucks!
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July 11, 2018, 04:04:07 PM
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The ICO investors who dump the coins of course because once the coin is listed in exchange they going to sell right away, they don't want to hold they are just get their profit.

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July 11, 2018, 04:06:08 PM
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I do not really blame anyone, the ICO project will very little take into account the allocation for each prize hunter is not too big because they know it is very risky for the project they do, the investor can at least make a huge effect on the price, the first pre sale with the price very minimal it is an opportunity for whales to buy more and automatically after passing multiple sales at a price greater than they bought first, and for sale after entering the market, but can not blame anyone, maybe that's how they make a profit.
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July 11, 2018, 04:06:26 PM
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First you have to split early ICO investors from late ICO investors.

Early investors are buying tokens during preICO and receiving bonuses in form of extra tokens while late investors are receiving only what they buy.

So short answer to your topic is both preICO investors and bounty hunters are dumping tokens.

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July 11, 2018, 04:10:03 PM
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this question is the same as I want to find the answer, but if according to my assumptions all depends on the project, if the distributions of token investors and hunters hadia together will likely make the price down, but it also depends on the coin enthusiasts.
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July 11, 2018, 04:21:09 PM
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Its already expected, most of the bounty hunters will dump their reward immidiately once it is listed on the exchange. But, even if all of the bounty hunters dumped, it isnt enough to affect the price of a certain coin, as the reward was not more than 3 to 4 or 5% of token/coin distribution. It should be on the investors who bought huge percentage of their distribution and dumped right away after it is listed in the exchange.

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July 11, 2018, 04:27:48 PM
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The first after the listing of the coin on the exchange there are investors, because they need to return their investment before the price falls and preferably with growth,and the bounty hunters can come out with their coins only when they give the reward, and this happens after the ICO a month or even later. In addition, the percentage of bounty tokens is so small that it can not affect the cost.
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July 11, 2018, 04:30:31 PM
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Coins aren’t sold by investors after accessing to rialto. But they are sold by Bounty hunters. You can take a look to the amount and see the investors keep their coins and wait for a good time for selling



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July 11, 2018, 04:32:38 PM
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investors always get token before bounty hunter and sometimes the price goes down before distribution to bounty hunter and I think the price of coin drops because many investors throw their coins

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