[ANN] | DUSK Network | Privacy-oriented blockchain for Digital Securities!

[o48o]

Were you born into the crypto space yesterday? There is Nothing stopping coin teams from purchasing coins at whatever discount they want as "seed funds" during the initial raise. Outside of the the normal "team allocation." It's known teams will sell to themselves at pre pre seed prices for pennies on the dollar.

If you have a proof of inside trading with inside information, go ahead ad publish your findings. Otherwise you are just fudding and grasping. And you DO realize that nothing is preventing you buy below private sale prices either?

[miningguru]

Were you born into the crypto space yesterday? There is Nothing stopping coin teams from purchasing coins at whatever discount they want as "seed funds" during the initial raise. Outside of the the normal "team allocation." It's known teams will sell to themselves at pre pre seed prices for pennies on the dollar.

If you have a proof of inside trading with inside information, go ahead ad publish your findings. Otherwise you are just fudding and grasping. And you DO realize that nothing is preventing you buy below private sale prices either?

Exactly, nobody is forcing us to buy them at below the private sale prices, of course, every company will grab the coin when the price is going down. It is a complete strategy which companies and once we see active developments the price of a coin will start increasing. We are even seeing some active trading volume is being generated by the Dusk network.

[iram3130]

Were you born into the crypto space yesterday? There is Nothing stopping coin teams from purchasing coins at whatever discount they want as "seed funds" during the initial raise. Outside of the the normal "team allocation." It's known teams will sell to themselves at pre pre seed prices for pennies on the dollar.

If you have a proof of inside trading with inside information, go ahead ad publish your findings. Otherwise you are just fudding and grasping. And you DO realize that nothing is preventing you buy below private sale prices either?

Exactly, nobody is forcing us to buy them at below the private sale prices, of course, every company will grab the coin when the price is going down. It is a complete strategy which companies and once we see active developments the price of a coin will start increasing. We are even seeing some active trading volume is being generated by the Dusk network.

"We are even seeing some active trading volume is being generated by the Dusk network."
How are you saying this..? Are you from the team or even know the team..?

All of the privacy oriented coins are making a volume on exchanges right now, whatever reason it may be but people will always be interested in this. I feel dusk has a great future and they should speed up the mainnet process.

[sockpuppet1911]

"We are even seeing some active trading volume is being generated by the Dusk network."
How are you saying this..? Are you from the team or even know the team..?

All of the privacy oriented coins are making a volume on exchanges right now, whatever reason it may be but people will always be interested in this. I feel dusk has a great future and they should speed up the mainnet process.

This is just a made up claim, they aren't creating any and i can't see any faked volume either. They can hire a market maker but that's whole another thing and doesn't have anything to do with the volume. 

[gembira]

Are they going to launch own exchange? As far as I remember there were an agreeement with Ifinex about exchange for security tokens which should be build on Dusk... Or they forgot about this already?

[o48o]

Are they going to launch own exchange? As far as I remember there were an agreeement with Ifinex about exchange for security tokens which should be build on Dusk... Or they forgot about this already?

Yeah, STE is still the goal, the details of it are not public because of NDAs but you can pretty much piece some of it together when you take a look at their contacts.

[gembira]

Are they going to launch own exchange? As far as I remember there were an agreeement with Ifinex about exchange for security tokens which should be build on Dusk... Or they forgot about this already?

Yeah, STE is still the goal, the details of it are not public because of NDAs but you can pretty much piece some of it together when you take a look at their contacts.

Why is this under NDA if they had official announcement about this? Why don't they have this in roadmap 9at least estimated date launch like quarter or so)?

[o48o]

Why is this under NDA if they had official announcement about this? Why don't they have this in roadmap 9at least estimated date launch like quarter or so)?

I could speculate about the reasons but i am wrong person to ask about details or what can be revealed and what can't be.
I can understand why they don't want to put it on the roadmap anymore tho, it was there once already and the schedule on that failed.

[Bowtiesarecool]

Would have loved having more concrete ETA for the 2020 goals f.e. Q2 for swap and such. But I completely understand the nuances of working with tech that has "immutability" as its second name. Slow and steady wins this race

Agreed. I would like to know detailed roadmap and plans too: tokens swap, fully working mainnet etc. What about "start partner integration"? Who are this partners and when this integration will starts?

According to some admin at telegram, they made a mistake by giving deadlines about partners and giving deadlines overall, and they are avoiding to to do them anymore.

They don't need to put partnerships on roadmap. As a matter of fact, I detest having partnerships on roadmap due to force majeure. There's no way you can be absolutely certain that nothing will go south - either by design or natural disaster. All I'm looking for is just development projections

[gembira]

Why is this under NDA if they had official announcement about this? Why don't they have this in roadmap (at least estimated date launch like quarter or so)?

I could speculate about the reasons but i am wrong person to ask about details or what can be revealed and what can't be.
I can understand why they don't want to put it on the roadmap anymore tho, it was there once already and the schedule on that failed.

So was this in roadmap before but than they had deleted it? It looks like very strange... Seems they can't launch exchange or don't want anymore. Or may be they have some legal issues with this 

[o48o]

So was this in roadmap before but than they had deleted it? It looks like very strange... Seems they can't launch exchange or don't want anymore. Or may be they have some legal issues with this 

STE is and has always been the whole point and goal of Dusk because it's build to run it. STE running on Dusk is also mentioned in the Bitfinex - iFinex whitepaper (i am not sure if bitfinex broke the nda by publishing it because the dusk team is silent about any details about their partnership on this).

Dusk has just removed timelines because schedules are harder to keep then they thought. And to be honest that i can believe. The amount of regulations they have to meet for this must be insane, and i would be surprised if the legal issues weren't the main hurdle that's slowing the process.

[Bowtiesarecool]

So was this in roadmap before but than they had deleted it? It looks like very strange... Seems they can't launch exchange or don't want anymore. Or may be they have some legal issues with this 

STE is and has always been the whole point and goal of Dusk because it's build to run it. STE running on Dusk is also mentioned in the Bitfinex - iFinex whitepaper (i am not sure if bitfinex broke the nda by publishing it because the dusk team is silent about any details about their partnership on this).

Dusk has just removed timelines because schedules are harder to keep then they thought. And to be honest that i can believe. The amount of regulations they have to meet for this must be insane, and i would be surprised if the legal issues weren't the main hurdle that's slowing the process.

I think the NDA is likely to be more binding on Dusk than Bitfinex. Bitfinex was likely trying to drum up justification for the partnership - also, STOs was quite the hotcake around that period and everyone was trying hard to sell it out

[dleader]

what fucking NDA? Have you seen proof of this NDA? literally DUSK has shown NOTHING except what is on the github.

I bailed on this Piece of Shit, 7 months no PR, no real news, just code that they should be doing any fucking ways.

No mainnet, no staking to keep the holders happy and a engaged, the admin in the TG are usuless parroting idiots that have said
the same thing for months on end.

If SME and huge companies were going to use dusk to Raise they would be gobbling all the supply up there is LITERALLY no pressure on the
market, just a few small time bots flipping for 3-10%.

Fuck Jelle until he shows something of value.

Speculation of value IS NOT VALUE in of itself. Don't @ me with bullshit what if's and they could becomes.

DUSK has not proven AT all is has VALUE.

[dleader]

Why is this under NDA if they had official announcement about this? Why don't they have this in roadmap (at least estimated date launch like quarter or so)?

I could speculate about the reasons but i am wrong person to ask about details or what can be revealed and what can't be.
I can understand why they don't want to put it on the roadmap anymore tho, it was there once already and the schedule on that failed.

So was this in roadmap before but than they had deleted it? It looks like very strange... Seems they can't launch exchange or don't want anymore. Or may be they have some legal issues with this  

No issues it was used for hype to dump coins on exchange launch.

Buy back at 100 sats after BTC pamps mega this year.

F dusk.

[Bowtiesarecool]

what fucking NDA? Have you seen proof of this NDA? literally DUSK has shown NOTHING except what is on the github.

I bailed on this Piece of Shit, 7 months no PR, no real news, just code that they should be doing any fucking ways.

No mainnet, no staking to keep the holders happy and a engaged, the admin in the TG are usuless parroting idiots that have said
the same thing for months on end.

If SME and huge companies were going to use dusk to Raise they would be gobbling all the supply up there is LITERALLY no pressure on the
market, just a few small time bots flipping for 3-10%.

Fuck Jelle until he shows something of value.

Speculation of value IS NOT VALUE in of itself. Don't @ me with bullshit what if's and they could becomes.

DUSK has not proven AT all is has VALUE.

Have I seen proof of an NDA? You're being rhetorical, right? NDA = Non-Disclosure Agreement. So, you want to see proof of something that can't be disclosed

Great, amazapants!

I've worked with NDAs and know how infuriating they can be. Maybe you should. You also, sort of, complimented the team for doing what they should be doing anyway. Delivering the codes for what they proposed to build in their WP. Didn't see PR or News in the documentation they used for funding though.

But I understand the anger.

Nobody wants to see their funds lose 10x it's initial value just because they put it into xyz coin rather than another. Becomes much more painful when everything from A to W appreciates in value and xyz just seems to be doing the opposite. I was angry at another project for doing the same, until I realized that I could have DCA over the 4 months I spent ranting at it. About 14 months later (last week), it went 7x. With my DCA, got out at around 4x. 14 months is a long time to wait for most folks, but they kept delivering the codes and networking with what looks like the right people to use it, so I held. My getting out wasn't because "muh lambo", it was simply because I expected a correction and wanted to be able to rebuy without regretting how much I could be having if I had sold the top - a painful experience from yet another crypto.

Bottom line is you have the right to be angry - emotional, but when has that helped anybody in crypto?

[SamboNZ]

I just hope mainnet will be live within Q2, i dont like a delay.

[malcovi2]

Are they going to launch own exchange? As far as I remember there were an agreeement with Ifinex about exchange for security tokens which should be build on Dusk... Or they forgot about this already?

Yeah, STE is still the goal, the details of it are not public because of NDAs but you can pretty much piece some of it together when you take a look at their contacts.

Why is this under NDA if they had official announcement about this? Why don't they have this in roadmap 9at least estimated date launch like quarter or so)?

because they are full of shit.

All hype with and cant give a good outcome..

just codes and tests, all of their timeline missed. Roadmap is pretty useless since they cant even hit one of the goal last year, They cant even accept or make an announcement about changing the bulletproof into PLONK. they like to beat around the bush like saying they are on time to release the mainnet Q4 of 2019 but VIOLA mainnet is in sandbox mode pretty much another test mode. LMAO!

The project is good but the communication is horrible.

[Sy]

I just hope mainnet will be live within Q2, i dont like a delay.

Another launch delay and I will be out of this project for good this time because I lost a lot on this project and the mainnet is my only hope to break even on the investment I made.

[malcovi2]

I just hope mainnet will be live within Q2, i dont like a delay.

Another launch delay and I will be out of this project for good this time because I lost a lot on this project and the mainnet is my only hope to break even on the investment I made.

Sadly for all of us, yet again they claimed cointelegraph made a mistake that dusk wont be the one releasing in Q2, its the so-called 2tokens organization that will be conducting their utility token.. I knew it this will be gonna be next year public mainnet.

This is the reason why they hide in telegram..

hype something and tease about facebook level partnership and then when it fails " claim NDA and blame community for hyping something that they claimed that they didnt announce about it"
pay to publish an article in cointelegraph and when its time "claim cointelegraph made a mistake about it"
post on your roadmap about Q4 mainnet and then when its finally time post about it that its on sandbox mode..

very genius move on how to screw your community.. pretty much clear why the telegram has no traction the same people chatting about how great the project is.

[Sy]

I just hope mainnet will be live within Q2, i dont like a delay.

Another launch delay and I will be out of this project for good this time because I lost a lot on this project and the mainnet is my only hope to break even on the investment I made.

Sadly for all of us, yet again they claimed cointelegraph made a mistake that dusk wont be the one releasing in Q2, its the so-called 2tokens organization that will be conducting their utility token.. I knew it this will be gonna be next year public mainnet.

This is the reason why they hide in telegram..

hype something and tease about facebook level partnership and then when it fails " claim NDA and blame community for hyping something that they claimed that they didnt announce about it"
pay to publish an article in cointelegraph and when its time "claim cointelegraph made a mistake about it"
post on your roadmap about Q4 mainnet and then when its finally time post about it that its on sandbox mode..

very genius move on how to screw your community.. pretty much clear why the telegram has no traction the same people chatting about how great the project is.

Delayed again? Why can't they stick to their words for once? Seems to me they are using these tactics to manipulate the market. As soon as price crosses 400 I am out, but will re-enter when some definitive news about mainnet surfaces.