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September 27, 2018, 11:05:24 PM
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Kavanaugh's opening statement seems to have been designed to please Trump - maybe he was worried that Trump could pull the nomination if he looks weak. Could also play well with the Republican base. The trouble is that neither Trump nor the base will vote in the confirmation so he missed the boat by a mile with that speech. Something less tone-deaf would have been more appropriate for convincing the handful of Republican senators who might still be undecided.

The defense strategy now seems to be "mistaken identity".

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September 27, 2018, 11:27:12 PM
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Wow what a statement. Here is the video its worth watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQF9e4y1LQM

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September 27, 2018, 11:39:23 PM
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In my opinion, this will set precedent for future nominations, he claimed character asasination against him as the accusations against him can not be proved, which is the case. The whole argument is based  on hearsay of events of decades ago.
In my opinion it is totally unfair to the man. Because no matter what happens there is no way he will get out of this unscathed.

I agree, though there has been many instances of sexual harassment which are true most of them are just character assasination and though I don’t know what really happened, I think the woman could have spoken out about this a long time ago than wait for this time to come out.



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September 28, 2018, 12:17:50 AM
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... the woman could have spoken out about this a long time ago than wait for this time to come out.

Sure, but Ford totally got used.

Ford wasn't central to Feinstein's gaming of pulling out the letter at the last minute.

She wanted to stay unnamed, and the Dems leaked her story.

She got totally used.
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September 28, 2018, 12:35:31 PM
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48% of White Evangelicals Would Support Kavanaugh Even If He Assaulted Dr. Ford
http://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/09/27/48-of-white-evangelicals-would-support-kavanaugh-even-if-he-assaulted-dr-ford/

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According to a NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll taken last week, 48% of white evangelical Christians say that Kavanaugh should be confirmed to the Supreme Court even if the charge of sexual assault is true.

I repeat: Nearly half of white evangelicals want Kavanaugh on the Court even if they believe he attempted to rape a girl when he was younger. Only 36% of them said it would be a dealbreaker while 16% were unsure. As if his guilt would still present some doubt as to whether he deserves a promotion.

If that doesn’t tell you the depths of their moral depravity, I don’t know what does.

(Incidentally, 54% of Republicans said they would vote to confirm Kavanaugh even if he sexually assaulted her. No other sub-group had numbers as high as Republicans and white evangelicals.)

Sad... quite sad
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September 28, 2018, 12:55:02 PM
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Sad... quite sad

Family values SMH

There is a bit of danger though. 54% is quite low, callous as it may sound. Might give some of those undecided Republican senators a pause. And the poll was done before yesterday's hearing, in which Kavanaugh (1) pandered to the base, but also (2) sounded... unsteady I think is the word.

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September 28, 2018, 01:23:39 PM
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Has anyone made the meme of that dude holding up the “Buy BTCitcoin” sign
photoshopped in behind Brett Kavanaugh giving testimony yet?

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September 28, 2018, 02:35:41 PM
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It all falls apart: Kavanaugh accusers recant and are exposed for history of lies and...





It's a full-in circus at the United States Senate as truly desperate Democrats throw every accusation they can come up with at Brett Kavanaugh in a last-ditch attempt to halt his Supreme Court confirmation.

In an operation that should probably be called Fast and Furious, Democrat operatives are grasping at any allegation, no matter how despicable or disreputable the source. They've even resorted to third-hand anonymous "eyewitnesses" who say they know someone who saw something involving someone who might have been with Kavanaugh some years ago, but they're not completely sure.

Seriously.

But the stories are all collapsing, and some of the allegations now being desperately catapulted in the direction of Kavanaugh appear to have been made by truly "psycho" individuals. Other allegations are rapidly being recanted. Here's a taste of what's breaking on all this just today:


We Stand With Brett Kavanaugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1XHIAAidx8&feature=youtu.be



Creepy porn lawyer Michael Avenatti revealed Brett Kavanaugh's 3rd accuser Wednesday morning–A woman named Julie Swetnick who has brought forth allegations of gang rape.

Julie Swetnick's ex-boyfriend says he had to file a restraining order against Swetnick after they broke up–she continued to harass him after he got married to another woman.

Swetnick's former boyfriend told Politico she threatened to harm his new wife and baby!


Read more at https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-09-26-it-all-falls-apart-kavanaugh-accusers-recant-and-are-exposed-for-history-of-lies-and-psycho-behavior.html.


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September 28, 2018, 04:13:54 PM
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There is a bit of danger though. 54% is quite low, callous as it may sound. Might give some of those undecided Republican senators a pause. And the poll was done before yesterday's hearing, in which Kavanaugh (1) pandered to the base, but also (2) sounded... unsteady I think is the word.

Trump: Kavanaugh accusations are a con job!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzDybBmtUKk
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September 28, 2018, 05:10:18 PM
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Trump: Kavanaugh accusations are a con job!

I think an endorsement of a self-proclaimed pussy grabber is the last thing Kavanaugh needs right now Smiley

Again - good with the base doesn't mean good in Senate. Committee votes in half hour, although that doesn't mean much. Full Senate apparently still has 4 undecided.

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September 28, 2018, 05:16:33 PM
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Trump: Kavanaugh accusations are a con job!

I think an endorsement of a self-proclaimed pussy grabber is the last thing Kavanaugh needs right now Smiley....

A certified pussy-grabber's opinion that Kav is not a pussy-grabber doesn't count?

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September 28, 2018, 05:22:45 PM
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Trump: Kavanaugh accusations are a con job!

I think an endorsement of a self-proclaimed pussy grabber is the last thing Kavanaugh needs right now Smiley....

A certified pussy-grabber's opinion that Kav is not a pussy-grabber doesn't count?

It counts, just not in a positive way.

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September 28, 2018, 06:29:32 PM
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Senate committee advances Judge Kavanaugh to full chamber for final confirmation vote
https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-brett-kavanaugh-vote-20180928-story,amp.html
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The Senate Judiciary Committee has voted along party lines, 11-10, to send federal judge Brett Kavanaugh’s Supreme Court nomination to the the full chamber for a final confirmation vote, less than one full day after a series of dramatic hearings in which a California professor accused the jurist of sexually assaulting her while both were in high school.

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September 28, 2018, 09:35:43 PM
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BOOM, FBI investigation incoming!

This is fantastic news for Kavanaugh and Republicans they can now prove the Dem plot and his 100% innocence with a non partisan investigation!  This will ensure Kavanaugh will get the votes once hes cleared LOL!

Finally the right thing is happening, to try to find out some actual facts!

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September 28, 2018, 11:31:00 PM
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I was disappointed that Trump picked Brett Kavanaugh for the Supreme Court. He's the kind of person who Romney or Bush would've picked: similar to John Roberts. So his basic philosophy will be to allow burning the constitution just so long as it's a slow burn. Gorsuch on the other hand is a very strict constitutionalist, and was a truly excellent pick -- his selection proved that Trump can on occasion be better than the typical centrist Republicans and Democrats who we've been afflicted with for decades.

I expect Kavanaugh to make it through the Senate unless some major scandal is revealed. On the Republican side, probably even Rand Paul will find it politically impossible to vote against him unless he's already destined to lose, and a few democrats will likely also be pressured to vote for him (though their votes will be unnecessary).

What do you think?

I'm a Libertarian, thus my love for decentralization and cryptos, I am with you on Kavanaugh BUT after watching the brutal and vile process the Dems put this man through, I'm going to ditch voting for Libertarians this election cycle and vote Republican.  Sick and tired of the drama, the media and their siding with Democrats is so freaking obvious and it makes me puke.  Perhaps the day will come when Republicans will agree to meet Libertarians in the middle on many issues (not all), many of us Libertarians will start supporting the Republican party.

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I'm a Libertarian, thus my love for decentralization and cryptos, I am with you on Kavanaugh BUT after watching the brutal and vile process the Dems put this man through, I'm going to ditch voting for Libertarians this election cycle and vote Republican.  Sick and tired of the drama, the media and their siding with Democrats is so freaking obvious and it makes me puke.  Perhaps the day will come when Republicans will agree to meet Libertarians in the middle on many issues (not all), many of us Libertarians will start supporting the Republican party.

I've also been feeling that way on an intuitive level. I don't like the Republicans, but I can't stand the Democrats. A decade ago they used to at least pay lip service to a few good things like opposition to war and some individual freedoms. I actually became a libertarian from the left. But now they're very pro-war and maybe as bad on free speech etc. as the Republicans due to their focus on identity politics. However, I have to keep reminding myself that the Republicans will do plenty of harm if they gain a lot of power, and in fact it may be an improvement if the Democrats get the House (but not the Senate) in the upcoming election because it'll make it harder for anything at all to get done. Even though it'll be absolute hell to have to listen to a Democratic Speaker for 2+ years...

If the Democrats gain both the House and the Senate in the upcoming election, then I'm calling it right now: Trump will get so amazingly frustrated that he will do something massively stupid/illegal and end up getting impeached (via the support of many Republicans). I'm not sure whether this would be good from a libertarian perspective.

Kavanaugh is better than anyone who a Democrat would nominate, so that's one good thing, though it's still disappointing. I don't even really trust him on the 2nd amendment -- probably he would support all sorts of incremental regulations. Though maybe his experience with his nomination will make him more radical, which might be interesting.

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September 29, 2018, 01:11:20 AM
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BOOM, FBI investigation incoming!

So... after all this whining about delays it turns out that the objection to the FBI investigation was totally pointless. Republicans could have done it immediately when the allegation surfaced and it likely would have been completed by now. But hey now look we're heroes because we're doing the thing that makes sense.

https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1045779267827699712

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“I’ve ordered the FBI to conduct a supplemental investigation to update Judge Kavanaugh’s file. As the Senate has requested, this update must be limited in scope and completed in less than one week.”

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So... after all this whining about delays it turns out that the objection to the FBI investigation was totally pointless.

You must be crazy because if I remember correctly the right wing nut jobs in here told us the FBI DOES NOT GET INVOLVED BECAUSE NO CRIME... Where are they now haha.

Republicans ran the bluff to the river and got called.  It's funny how Trump and Kavanaugh thought that they could play to the swing senators the same way they play to their base...!!!???

Durbin had Kavanaugh looking like the classic deer in the headlights (and it's a train called the FBI headed straight for Kavanaugh full speed) fucking funny to watch this liar squirm in anguish over his lies!

I can't wait for the FBI to have a chat with Avenatti sounds like he might have a lot of time to spend with them!

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The creepy porn lawyer who is bad has beaten the creepy pussy grabbing sexual predator twice now

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I'm a Libertarian, thus my love for decentralization and cryptos, I am with you on Kavanaugh BUT after watching the brutal and vile process the Dems put this man through, I'm going to ditch voting for Libertarians this election cycle and vote Republican.  Sick and tired of the drama, the media and their siding with Democrats is so freaking obvious and it makes me puke.  Perhaps the day will come when Republicans will agree to meet Libertarians in the middle on many issues (not all), many of us Libertarians will start supporting the Republican party.

I've also been feeling that way on an intuitive level. I don't like the Republicans, but I can't stand the Democrats. A decade ago they used to at least pay lip service to a few good things like opposition to war and some individual freedoms. I actually became a libertarian from the left. But now they're very pro-war and maybe as bad on free speech etc. as the Republicans due to their focus on identity politics. However, I have to keep reminding myself that the Republicans will do plenty of harm if they gain a lot of power, and in fact it may be an improvement if the Democrats get the House (but not the Senate) in the upcoming election because it'll make it harder for anything at all to get done. Even though it'll be absolute hell to have to listen to a Democratic Speaker for 2+ years...

If the Democrats gain both the House and the Senate in the upcoming election, then I'm calling it right now: Trump will get so amazingly frustrated that he will do something massively stupid/illegal and end up getting impeached (via the support of many Republicans). I'm not sure whether this would be good from a libertarian perspective.

Kavanaugh is better than anyone who a Democrat would nominate, so that's one good thing, though it's still disappointing. I don't even really trust him on the 2nd amendment -- probably he would support all sorts of incremental regulations. Though maybe his experience with his nomination will make him more radical, which might be interesting.

I am a recovering Democrat/leftist, I supported Obama in 2008.  Completely fed up with the Bush admin and Neo-con wars, the economy was going down the drain and I wasn't sure I was going to get a job as a new college grad.  Now that I think back, I was naive, perhaps lost in the rhetoric of the day and I was a "Progressive", although I was and am still a strong proponent of the 2nd Amendment.  The Left's obsession with abolishing the 2nd amendment was one of the reasons I left.  

But the biggest wakeup call for me was the ACA/Obamacare.  When the Democrats wrote the law to "mandate" people pay a "fine/tax" for not buying a product, it shook me to the core, I realized that if Congress can write a law to punish me for not buying something, what else can they force me to do?  If they can weaponize or arm an agency (IRS) and bestow new powers on this agency all "for the greater good", what other agency can they weaponize?  

This shift started in 2010 and I completely left the party and the progressive left in 2012 after witnessing the IRS being weaponized against the tea party.  I wanted to see if there were minorities like myself (I use the word minority because at the time I still saw things through the prism of racial identity), after a quick web search I came across Thomas Sowell, I read he was a "Libertarian", I decided to buy his books and it rocked my world.  He was calling out things in the 1980s that were happening in America in the 2010's.  I went from Dr. Sowell to Milton Friedman and I also got introduced to Ayn Rand.  

I was a Collective/Leftist and now I'm a born-again Individual.  I use the word "Individual" because I now understand why The Bill of Rights was crafted.  The Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers opened my eyes to the virtue and importance of an individual person.  The Consitution isn't a "charter of negative liberties" as Obama stated, instead it allows the individual person to flourish and be who they want to be without being dictated to by 'Big Brother" as long as they do not harm another person or persons, they are free to pursue their dreams to the fullest.  

I will vote Republican this cycle, even though Trump may not be the perfect person in the WH, I'm sure damn glad he's in there.  He's exposing everything that people fear about big government.  If he can bring the Korean War to an end, audit the Fed and legalize at least pot, I'd be nice if we can get all drugs legalized but that's a different story, anyway, if he can at two of those three things I'm gonna be on the Trump train in 2020.  I want peace, prosperity with limited government interference so we can all pursue our individual dreams.  

I'm afraid the Democrats have gone far left, there's no sane person left in the party!  Hopefully, Gen Z is seeing all this chaos and they will all move Libertarian or at least move to the middle, because my generation, the Millenials, are advocating big government, socialism, even communism, and it scares me.  

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