Lesson Learned !!!

[cryptoasis]

I have always awaited for my first merit point since my promotion to Jr. Member to become Member, but two months passed, my first merit point did not came.  I see some people getting merit for silly posts, and I was so eager to see my first merit point that I ended up doing one silly mistake, that is, asking a legendary member to "donate me my first merit", in hope of my first merit.  If not then at least a warning that it is bad thing and/or suggestion or guidance from such pioneer in this forum, but I got a negative Trust Point.  I requested to reverse it to no effect.  I later came to know that asking someone for merit is prohibited.

There is no other option but to admit it was my mistake.  This is my only BT account and the negative trust made me very upset and I don't know how it can be reversed.  I have never intended to spam or spammed or even given wrong suggestion to anybody but I HAVE TO LIVE IN BITCOINTALK WITH RED NEGATIVE TRUST STATUS.  I am not worried about my bounties either but that Red Trust status.  Its a bullshit.  So people, never make the mistake I made.  You may have spent many hours to establish a reputation of your BT account but with single mistake it can all be gone.  I have learned my lesson.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I later came to know that asking someone for merit is prohibited.

You see, you would have known that had you been anything other than a bounty hunter who doesn't really care about discussion here.  It's been talked about endlessly that merit begging is frowned upon, especially via PM.  The last thread I posted in about that was only within the last 3 days I think.  There's no excuse that you didn't know that your action would result in a negative.

In addition, your warning is going to be ineffective.  Why?  Because, just like you, people who beg for merit tend not to read anything in Meta and won't see it.  You yourself would have missed such a warning--in fact, you DID miss everything that would have warned you not to beg for merits.  It's your fault, so own up to it.

[TheUltraElite]

First of all this thread should be moved to "Reputation"

I requested to reverse it to no effect.  I later came to know that asking someone for merit is prohibited.

You should have read the rules before you started posting anything in the forum. It is forbidden to ask for merits or to buy/sell merits.

There is no other option but to admit it was my mistake.  This is my only BT account and the negative trust made me very upset and I don't know how it can be reversed.  I have never intended to spam or spammed or even given wrong suggestion to anybody but I HAVE TO LIST IN BITCOINTALK WITH RED NEGATIVE TRUST STATUS.  I am not worried about my bounties either but that Red Trust status.  Its a bullshit.  So people, never make the mistake I made.  You may have spent many hours to establish a reputation of your BT account but with single mistake it can all be gone.  I have learned my lesson.

Actually you can continue making posts and contributing to the different threads of this forum. If you are going to strive to be a good person in the forum and are going to follow the rules of the forum then you have a chance to petition OgNasty to remove the feedback.

Do not attempt to PM them right away about it because you will get ignored. But do not let the red trust stop you from posting meaningful and helpful content in the forum. You might actually get some merits in due course as well. After that you can ask for a review.

However it all depends on the person who gave you negative trust. If they feel that the rating will be left forever then it will be so. Nobody can help that.

[pugman]

I have never intended to spam or spammed or even given wrong suggestion to anybody but I HAVE TO LIST IN BITCOINTALK WITH RED NEGATIVE TRUST STATUS.  .

Funny you say that:

If you get into good project, the airdrop and bounty is a free coins that can give you much greater return.  Just like Ontology airdrop was valued around $7k.  So like investment, chose good project for airdrop.

If adopted correctly and with good knowledge and widespread use, cryptos are obviously better than fiat where you can control your own money.

Smart investor are not those who predicts the market but those who has ability to move with market.  Prediction most of the times comes opposite like when large number of people are expecting or predicting something will happen, it usually happens in other way.  So, I think smart are those who has an ability to move with market up and down.

Yes. We are still in initial phase and has a long way to go.  If you are good enough to good crypto which has big future potential and with a little bit of luck, you can have enormous multiplies of your investment in some years.   

Crypto progress is in steady way, the enormous gains during winter can be called a spikes.  If you are expecting more than it can deliver, it will certainly depress you, but if you are accepting the progress and deliver, it is satisfying.  It is progressing steady.

And good luck with getting your neg tag removed, because it is not gonna get removed. Begging for merit is prohibited.

[digaran]

OgNasty is a bully, I know that after I looked at owlcatz negative ratings left on him by this bully for speaking against him. wtf man? instead of finding meritale posts of somebody who has PMed you and help them in ranking up you just hand out negative trust? people don't have anywhere to look and ask for merits, so they might directly ask merit sources if they haven't got any merits yet.
Asking for merits is not prohibited, begging for merits is. did you beg or did you ask nicely?

[Probinus]

I later came to know that asking someone for merit is prohibited.

Regardless of you not knowing this, as a literate and an english-speaker, you should've encountered the word "Merit" by now. Have you not wondered about the definition of it?

"""
merit
[mer-it]
noun
claim to respect and praise; excellence; worth.
something that deserves or justifies a reward or commendation; a commendable quality, act, etc.:
"""

highlighted the word "respect" since merits, just like respect, should be earned and not given.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

OgNasty is a bully, I know that after I looked at owlcatz negative ratings left on him by this bully for speaking against him. wtf man? instead of finding meritale posts of somebody who has PMed you and help them in ranking up you just hand out negative trust? people don't have anywhere to look and ask for merits, so they might directly ask merit sources if they haven't got any merits yet.
Asking for merits is not prohibited, begging for merits is. did you beg or did you ask nicely?

OgNasty is a long time btctalk contributer. He does a lot of good here.

[digaran]

OgNasty is a bully, I know that after I looked at owlcatz negative ratings left on him by this bully for speaking against him. wtf man? instead of finding meritale posts of somebody who has PMed you and help them in ranking up you just hand out negative trust? people don't have anywhere to look and ask for merits, so they might directly ask merit sources if they haven't got any merits yet.
Asking for merits is not prohibited, begging for merits is. did you beg or did you ask nicely?

OgNasty is a long time btctalk contributer. He does a lot of good here.

I know that but he is also a bully, being a DT member and tag somebody for something pity such as asking for some merits is simply bullying, he was the one asking to be a source and he should at least have the tolerance for things like this. we all know that "contributors" get free pass here for everything they do, but my problem is mostly with his red tagging the other people.

[kitty94]

I may be not the one to talk about this since I have so little experience in the forum. But here  I go!

1. Do not ever ask for merits!! Do not try to creep from technical loop holes like "Oh man, Only begging for merits is banned, I did not begged, I just asked!" No It is not okay, Yes I know, sometimes We are pretty desperate when some "valuable posts" (The value of a post totally depends on the individual perspective!! Noobs like us tend to think after posting something that it worths some merit, but actually It is utter bullshit in the eyes of a more experienced user!) do not get rewarded and go deep under in the spamming mega threads where no one notices ever! BUT ASKING FOR MERIT IS STILL NOT OKAY!!!

2. About the negative trust, It can only be removed by the member who assigned it, Therefore contact him. Do not spam him, I thing he would remove the negative trust if he thinks that you have learnt the lesson. I have heard so much about the member ognasty and his attitude towards the forum, He must have done this out of the pure intention of making a spam free forum.

3. I have 3 sMerits left, but since this thread has been created solely in the idea of seeking attention from senior members with sMerits i am not gonna bother to look at your posts history.

Note:
Do not ask for merit, The surprise, Joy you get after seeing some of your posts have been merited is priceless.!!

[digaran]

I may be not the one to talk about this

You got that part right, you are not in a position to have any opinion on this matter or similar cases, maybe you don't know it but let me explain it to you. merit distribution is manual because we were supposed to stop account farmers, but there are too many accounts already registered so the only thing merit helped to stop is preventing more account farming. somebody who asks for a few merits is not going to farm accounts with it, therefore tagging them to show them as if they are scammers is not right.
OP could be a newbie with no experience, instead of tagging them with red, tell them to stop asking for merits or just tell them to fuck off, telling them to fuck off would require less effort than leaving a negative feedback. if you are a merit source and don't want to be bothered with these situations, ask somebody else to take your place.

[pugman]

I may be not the one to talk about this

You got that part right, you are not in a position to have any opinion on this matter or similar cases, maybe you don't know it but let me explain it to you. merit distribution is manual because we were supposed to stop account farmers, but there are too many accounts already registered so the only thing merit helped to stop is preventing more account farming. somebody who asks for a few merits is not going to farm accounts with it, therefore tagging them to show them as if they are scammers is not right.
OP could be a newbie with no experience, instead of tagging them with red, tell them to stop asking for merits or just tell them to fuck off, telling them to fuck off would require less effort than leaving a negative feedback. if you are a merit source and don't want to be bothered with these situations, ask somebody else to take your place.

And you're not in the position to tell people what they should and what they shouldn't do.

[suchmoon]

OgNasty is a bully, I know that after I looked at owlcatz negative ratings left on him by this bully for speaking against him. wtf man? instead of finding meritale posts of somebody who has PMed you and help them in ranking up you just hand out negative trust? people don't have anywhere to look and ask for merits, so they might directly ask merit sources if they haven't got any merits yet.
Asking for merits is not prohibited, begging for merits is. did you beg or did you ask nicely?

OgNasty being an asshole does not excuse the OP being a shitposting merit beggar. There is certainly no obligation for anyone to start looking for meritable posts upon receiving a PM from a beggar.

BTW neither asking nor begging for merits is officially against the rules otherwise the OP would be banned. It is frowned upon and everyone is dealing with it the way they see fit.

[OgNasty]

I am neither a bully or an asshole.

[digaran]

I am neither a bully or an asshole.

Lol, then please give the OP another chance, he/she has learned the lesson obviously. how can we learn forgiveness if people like you don't have the habit of forgiving?

[Vod]

I am neither a bully or an asshole.

Lol, then please give the OP another chance, he/she has learned the lesson obviously. how can we learn forgiveness if people like you don't have the habit of forgiving?

We forgive, we just don't forget - hence the tag.

[3acaga]

I am neither a bully or an asshole.

If you correctly wrote, then why not give the person who realized his mistake a chance?
P.S. Everyone is prone to make mistakes - but not everyone knows how to admit their mistake and go ahead!

[Vod]

I am neither a bully or an asshole.

If you correctly wrote, then why not give the person who realized his mistake a chance?
P.S. Everyone is prone to make mistakes - but not everyone knows how to admit their mistake and go ahead!

You guys are naive.  How do you know he learned his lesson, and is not just posting so?

Keeping the tag on there, forcing him/her to change their actions, is much better for them than just ignoring it and letting them do it again.

[Steamtyme]

Keeping the tag on there, forcing him/her to change their actions, is much better for them than just ignoring it and letting them do it again.

I would say "if" in the future OP can show a proven history of change, then they can reach out to OG to request a review. Until then it's no different than when I used to tell the principal I'd stop blowing off classes or some other stupid behavior of the sort.

For now suck it up and improve.

[Flying Hellfish]

You got that part right, you are not in a position to have any opinion on this matter or similar cases, maybe you don't know it but let me explain it to you.

Hey guess what asshole, that user has just as much "right" to post their opinion as you, me or theymos.  The fact that you want to shove your view of what is allowed or not shows how much a biased backwards fool you are.  

You think you fucking know everything but in reality you look like a trolling moron without any ability to process information logically.

[cryptoasis]

I later came to know that asking someone for merit is prohibited.

You see, you would have known that had you been anything other than a bounty hunter who doesn't really care about discussion here.  It's been talked about endlessly that merit begging is frowned upon, especially via PM.  The last thread I posted in about that was only within the last 3 days I think.  There's no excuse that you didn't know that your action would result in a negative.

In addition, your warning is going to be ineffective.  Why?  Because, just like you, people who beg for merit tend not to read anything in Meta and won't see it.  You yourself would have missed such a warning--in fact, you DID miss everything that would have warned you not to beg for merits.  It's your fault, so own up to it.

I admit its my mistake, and I also justify my mistake that often new members are prone to make this mistake because there are so many sub-forums and sub-sub-forums but that way they will learn, what's allowed and what's not.  To grow as a good "Bitcointalkers" is a process, not every new member enters into BT with learning of all rules.  They will make mistakes and learn and realize, but those who wants to improve and admits their mistake and admit would not repeat, should be encouraged.  They should be punished and also rewarded, but should not be let him live his whole life in bitcointalk with "red warning" status.

If I am here for only bounty then I would have made another BT account, and its just a Jr. member level, which can be achieved in just two weeks.  But I am here to be part of community, learn from community who is here since 2011, and grow with community with my original identity.  And also I would like to request the seniors in the forum to not treat all new members like bounty hunters many of them are here to be a part of community, and the new and fresh energy they can bring can be quite useful too.