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[digaran]

In their page, look.

So basically not only they are getting away with the ban by exploiting a loophole, they are now offering at least %30 ROI per month? Is mining, trading that profitable? This looks like a money grab, imagine if they can just get away with 5 BTC, that would be a good money for them, and since they advertise here even after the ban, they have the perfect legitimacy to even grab more than that. This smells like a scam. Or you know, just a honeypot or just a ponzi.

People are keeping it quite because they might lose their future garbage posting opportunities. 😉 protecting the community my ass.

[joker_josue]

In their page, look.

What the page says is that you can earn up to 34%. In other words, you can earn between 1% and 34%. It does not guarantee this profitability. This will certainly depend on the money invested and the volume of business that the platform has.

[stompix]

So basically not only they are getting away with the ban by exploiting a loophole, they are now offering at least %30 ROI per month? Is mining, trading that profitable? This looks like a money grab, imagine if they can just get away with 5 BTC, that would be a good money for them, and since they advertise here even after the ban, they have the perfect legitimacy to even grab more than that. This smells like a scam. Or you know, just a honeypot or just a ponzi.

When you try to highlight things with red lines be careful to not cross things that invalidate your theory, one might think you have an agenda..
 



See that thing about 12 hours? Jambler is not holding your money for a month and then pays 30%, you get an average of 1% on a trade, you do one each day and you might end up with 30% , that assuming you have clients. It's up to, you can make 1% or even zero if you have no offers!
So, since they've been operating since 2018 they had about 750 cycles (assuming max limit time of 48h) to scam someone, yet they didn't.

https://[banned mixer]/faq.php#faq-1.3

How fast does return on investment happen?

Everything depends on a current demand. When the platform experiences a strong need for funds, return on investment can be minimal and reach 2 hours. If a demand for investment is low, an average time of return on investment may be 48 hours or more. We assume that return on investment may take 12 hours on the average.

I know you've been low lately on trolling material but common, you can do better!
Take a break from here and enjoy the P&S section, I'm sure there is something in that cesspool that might keep you entertain for a month or so.

[digaran]

Welp! They are just rude, they haven't answered any of my legit and serious questions for 20 days now, they are not even here responding, so what kind of a trustworthy service operator abandons their ANN thread for weeks not answering some concerning questions?

This service has been in operation for years and yet I heard of them just recently, so excuse me if I can't trust them blindly.
1- what kind of a business runs their receiving coins through chain analysis to check if they are "clean" or not?

2- which chain analysis they use?

3- what are they doing that makes it possible to earn %1 in a day? That means ROI in 100 days if there is demand, we all have heard the famous 100 days ROI stories aka ponzis.

4- who would run their coins through a CA service and for what reason exactly that could persuade them to pay such high fees that could satisfy the %1 per day of investors and also gives them their own profit? I know, people with something to hide would do that.

Finally, guess what? What happens if suddenly the battery on their site shows empty and after a few months of accumulating trust, they start demanding large sums like 100 Bitcoins or more, and then hit the road? You guessed right, ponzis operate just like that.

There is no natural and legit business that could guarantee %1 daily ROI.
Besides, how can icopress offer me to sell a copy of this service for 17 BTC ? Is he the owner or did the owner told him to give that offer? Can we see the conversation where that happened?

You guys are mesmerized by $500-700 monthly payments you receive, and can't think clearly, you rather continue getting paid and stay silent as long as this ponzi lasts, typical ponzi promoter mindset.

I'm sure if they run with the money, icopress would be safe, right? WRONG. I have enough evidence on him, I just hope nobody lose any money and then say: that deranged troll dig was on to something we just didn't listen.

[icopress]

Thanks for continuing to keep this thread active. 

[GazetaBitcoin]

I don't understand at all the accusations about a Ponzi scheme here. stompix, in fact, explained things very well. A Ponzi scheme is not running for 5 years in a row until their "artists" do the Houdini move. This sounds very unrealistic.

Not even Bitconeeeeeeeeeec or OneCoin -- which were among biggest crypto Ponzi schemes -- spent such a great amount of time before they exit scammed or before authorities came for some of their leaders..

[joker_josue]

This conversation reminds me of some customers who visit the store where I work.

He starts talking and asking various questions about articles, until they start asking:
Are you the ones who make this product?
Where is the factory? What is the name of the company that manufactures it?

And then, laughing, they say: "This is just curiosity, I don't want to set up any business that competes with yours." 

People sometimes seem unable to discern what types of questions they should ask. They think that the only way to know if something is good or not is to know all the details of the origin of things. They forget that when we are talking about a business, the businessman cannot reveal all the details, otherwise he will lose the business.

[digaran]

We are cool though, I'm just trying to point out the obvious for reference.
Also paving the path for future generations of the similar businesses, imagine in the near future the exact service as jambojet appears and suddenly people start calling them ponzi-scam, untrustworthy etc, then we will use such conversations as reference if needed. Nothing feels better than slapping some wet fish when the time comes.

On the other hand, I am inadvertently preventing any competition of jambojet to even dare trying to do business here. I didn't think about that before!

[dkbit98]

A Ponzi scheme is not running for 5 years in a row until their "artists" do the Houdini move. This sounds very unrealistic.

I could be wrong about this, but some people say that current worldwide governmental construction with fiat currencies printed from thin air, and with ever growing consumer prices and tax extortion, is one of the longest ever running ponzi schemes

[joker_josue]

I would like to understand better how Invest Bitcoin with [banned mixer] works.

How specifically work?
Is there a minimum value that must be entered?

[examplens]

I saw that a new mixer appeared in town (I will not write his name on this forum). Looking at the code on their site, it looks like they are a new Jambler partner. Because of their current authority, the Jambler team may update the list of partners on the [banned mixer] site to remove doubts.
It would be useful if Jambler appeared on the Altt forum, at least through the ANN thread.

[icopress]

I saw that a new mixer appeared in town (I will not write his name on this forum). Looking at the code on their site, it looks like they are a new Jambler partner. Because of their current authority, the Jambler team may update the list of partners on the [banned mixer] site to remove doubts.
It would be useful if Jambler appeared on the Altt forum, at least through the ANN thread.

The list of partners is updated only by agreement of the two parties. I know at least 3 mixers that are not on the list, and even Webmixer for the first year was against being on this list because he wanted to position himself as an independent mixer (in the sense of creating his own reputation on his own).

[DooMAD]

I saw that a new mixer appeared in town (I will not write his name on this forum). Looking at the code on their site, it looks like they are a new Jambler partner. Because of their current authority, the Jambler team may update the list of partners on the [banned mixer] site to remove doubts.
It would be useful if Jambler appeared on the Altt forum, at least through the ANN thread.

The list of partners is updated only by agreement of the two parties. I know at least 3 mixers that are not on the list, and even Webmixer for the first year was against being on this list because he wanted to position himself as an independent mixer (in the sense of creating his own reputation on his own).

And, given the regulatory hostility at the moment, I can kind of understand why some of them want to remain under the radar.  Avoid getting too big too fast, not attracting too much attention.

[SFR10]

@Jay Johanson
Does the blockchain analysis part that's included in the scoring system, solely use the automated analysis tools that some of the exchanges also use for flagging stuff, or there's also someone who goes through each one of the addresses and transactions to look for errors?
^{- The reason why I'm asking this is that I've tried a few of these automated tools in the past and on a few occasions it led to a false-positive result!}

Update:

I'll try to find out what I can.  

Thank you

Update 2:

SFR10, Whenever possible, we try to automate all work processes.

Thank You for the information

[icopress]

@Jay Johanson
Does the blockchain analysis part that's included in the scoring system, solely use the automated analysis tools that some of the exchanges also use for flagging stuff, or there's also someone who goes through each one of the addresses and transactions to look for errors?
^{- The reason why I'm asking this is that I've tried a few of these automated tools in the past and on a few occasions it led to a false-positive result!}

I'll try to find out what I can. 

[xandry]

Bump

More than a week has passed since 03.05.2023, but my bitcoins have not returned yet. Terrible service, I do not advise anyone to invest their bitcoins.

xandry, I'll try contacting Jambler and get back here with an answer.

I forgot to inform you in a timely manner in this thread that the problem was solved immediately after that. Thanks icopress

[Jay Johanson]

SFR10, Whenever possible, we try to automate all work processes.

[Pmalek]

I have translated the [banned mixer] announcement thread into Croatian. For anyone who wants to read it in that language, it's available on the link below:
🍁 [banned mixer] - Započnite vlastiti BTC Posao / Postanite investitor 💲

[stompix]

One thing I've noticed browsing around, in the sign-up tutorial you use securejabber(dot)me as an example for a jabber server
I don't know how many still use jabber versus telegram and if it matters but that domain is up for sale so it would just confuse someone going though that tutorial better use jabber.at for a list.

How specifically work?
Is there a minimum value that must be entered?

Hmm, just realized this one got unanswered, it's 0.04 BTC!
But you will need to sign-up and check the offers to see what demand for liquidity there is, which nobody can guarantee.

[joker_josue]

Hmm, just realized this one got unanswered, it's 0.04 BTC!
But you will need to sign-up and check the offers to see what demand for liquidity there is, which nobody can guarantee.

And is it possible to withdraw this money at any time, or do you have to wait a certain number of days?