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[Pmalek]

But it doesn't work. If there is such a loophole, then everyone will give preference to prizes in Bitcoin.

Perhaps. It will greatly depend on the type of physical prize we are talking about and, of course, the person who wins it. If we go back to the Bitcointalk Community Awards from the last couple of years, we had winners who accepted the physical gifts and gave out their addresses and those who didn't. If it's an interesting item the winner wants to own, they might do it. For example, a rare BTC coin or a hardware wallet they were thinking about purchasing anyways.   

Finally, if no prizes will be paid out in bitcoin, the rules of the competition should make it clear that only users who have no problems to have the items shipped to their location can participate. So, if you don't want to, then don't play.

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[dkbit98]

Regarding raffles with physical prizes I have an idea in mind, but I am unsure if it can be done... I am thinking about some coins made by casascius or Kialara. Or, why not, coins made by smoothie, so some Lealana coins... Such coins are very rare and I did not see them used as prizes in any raffle (raffles organized by other projects, that is). So maybe such prizes would be very unique.

I can also arrange a deal to create unique Jambler limited edition collectible open source cards and hardware wallets, if people are interested in that.
Jay Johanson can PM me if he is interested in doing something like that, and we can talk more about design and quantity.
Unique Jambler design will be guaranteed

Jambler could organize raffles that include real physical items for those users willing to accept them and have them shipped either to their home address, their place of work, a PO box, etc. But if the winner doesn't want to give away their personal information, which some don't want to do, the alternative could be to offer the same value of the physical item in BTC. Both types of winners can get a prize that way.

Nah, icopress is right, most people would take Bitcoin payment if they had the option to choose, but Jambler can have multiple winners and different rewards

[Pmalek]

Nah, icopress is right, most people would take Bitcoin payment if they had the option to choose, but Jambler can have multiple winners and different rewards

In that case, just offer the physical items and make it clear that those are the only rewards. Then it's very simple. If you take part in the raffle, you are interested in having said items shipped somewhere, meaning you'll give the Jambler people an address. Alternatively, you can give up your spot to someone else, but then it's worth asking, why would you even participate if you have a problem giving out your address? Let others play and do something else...

[Ahmed94]

Hello everyone, I don't understand how the mixing system works on Jambler. Where do we deposit the BTC? Because I see a section with partners who seem to understand how to mix very clearly, how can I know if they are trustworthy? Thank you.

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Hello everyone, I don't understand how the mixing system works on Jambler. Where do we deposit the BTC? Because I see a section with partners who seem to understand how to mix very clearly, how can I know if they are trustworthy? Thank you.

You didn't say clearly what exactly you want to do.
If you want to mix your coins, then choose one of Jambler's partners. (Don't hesitate to check them before use). You can't mix coins directly on Jambler.
If you want to be an investor in the Jambler service, go to https://[banned mixer]/sign-in.php register (must have a Telegram account) and follow the steps.

[Jimmy Wales]

I am interested in one thing, maybe you can give me the correct information. When Jambler is under planned maintenance, does this affect all their partners? Or the service is functional in the background?

First, because Jambler resells to them the coins it receives through short-term user deposits, thus providing them with liquidity.

Why is it profitable for me to use [banned mixer] for investment?

Firstly, we have a stable demand for transactions from stock exchanges for which we are ready to pay a bounty. [banned mixer] constantly purchases output transactions from Bitcoin stock exchanges and provides a bonus of 1% for that. An average time of return on investment is 12 hours. Secondly, our business model is transparent. It demonstrates clearly from which funds [banned mixer] pays commission fees to sellers/investors.

To eliminate risks of getting a cryptocurrency of questionable origin, all investor Bitcoins are checked by the platform scoring system, including blockchain analysis. Transactions which have passed the check, get into the system and transaction which have failed the check, are returned to a customer from the same wallet. This stage makes it possible to terminate attempts of unfair investors to use an investment admittance as a mixer in order to clear their money and gain profit at the same time. [banned mixer] does not capitalize on return of cryptocoins which haven’t passed the scoring check, it is a necessary security measure.

Why the platform scoring system needs to receive BTC, hold it for some time, deduct 0.02% and a commission fee of 0.0001 BTC and then send back to withdrawal wallet? Can't it just ask for the sending address, check and confirm before actually receiving the coins?

Also, from their FAQ, it seems they only accept coins originating from either of the following exchanges...

3.8 What are stock exchanges supported?

Poloniex, Binance, Korbit, Bitfinex, Bitstamp, Pbit, GDAX, Okcoin, Kraken, Gemini, BTCC, CEX.IO, itBit, Simex, Lakebtc, Exmo, Bitbay, Livecoin.

I would like to know if [banned mixer] will accept coins received from erstwhile LocalBitcoins?

[Bitcoin_Arena]

3.8 What are stock exchanges supported?

Poloniex, Binance, Korbit, Bitfinex, Bitstamp, Pbit, GDAX, Okcoin, Kraken, Gemini, BTCC, CEX.IO, itBit, Simex, Lakebtc, Exmo, Bitbay, Livecoin.

I would like to know if [banned mixer] will accept coins received from erstwhile LocalBitcoins?

Is it still possible to withdraw coins from localBitcoins? I thought they stopped withdrawal a while back.
They clearly don't mention Localbitcoins in there is its better to assume they don't accept coins from there.

I would like to however comment on the list. It seems like it's not up-to-date at all.
Pbit?
GDAX now known as coinbase pro
Okcoin now known as OKX
itBit now under paxos.com or so they say.
Simex???
Lakebtc???
Livecoin???

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Why the platform scoring system needs to receive BTC, hold it for some time, deduct 0.02% and a commission fee of 0.0001 BTC and then send back to withdrawal wallet? Can't it just ask for the sending address, check and confirm before actually receiving the coins?

I guess 0.02% goes to the AML check of the coin. For example services like https://amlbot.com/#pricing
a fee of 0.0001 BTC is probably to cover the network fee, there is no reason for Jambler to cover such costs.

[JackpotRacer]

OP long time not seen

Maybe if @Pmalek can explain a bit more about [banned mixer] and what is the minimum investment they accept?
Is there a maximum too?

He should know since he carries the signature of [banned mixer].

oh sure also @icopress should be able to answer my question. I am so glad I found this thread.

Cheers

[Pmalek]

Maybe if @Pmalek can explain a bit more about [banned mixer] and what is the minimum investment they accept?
Is there a maximum too?

He should know since he carries the signature of [banned mixer].

oh sure also @icopress should be able to answer my question. I am so glad I found this thread.

Cheers

This isn't the place for your little games. You are not interested in Jambler, you are looking to poke me and icopress in the eye.
The answers to the questions you asked are available on the FAQ page. Not to mention, that the question was already asked and answered in this thread. The minimum investment is 0.04 BTC, the maximum one is 5 BTC per request. However, you can create several requests and invest multiple times.

Having said that, I am not going to answer any of your other questions in this thread.
Why? Because this is what your fragile mind has conjured up: You couldn't get me in trouble with icopress, so you tried to get icopress in trouble with another campaign he manages. Because that failed, you have now slightly changed your tactics. You are going to try to present icopress and myself as bad images to Jambler, hoping to provoke us into saying something nasty or not knowing/wanting to answer your questions. After that, you plan on asking Jambler why they would want us in their campaign and that it would be best to remove us because of how terrible we are.

Did I forget something?
Go away little boy, no one is interested.   

[JackpotRacer]

Maybe if @Pmalek can explain a bit more about [banned mixer] and what is the minimum investment they accept?
Is there a maximum too?

He should know since he carries the signature of [banned mixer].

oh sure also @icopress should be able to answer my question. I am so glad I found this thread.

Cheers

This isn't the place for your little games. You are not interested in Jambler, you are looking to poke me and icopress in the eye.
The answers to the questions you asked are available on the FAQ page. Not to mention, that the question was already asked and answered in this thread. The minimum investment is 0.04 BTC, the maximum one is 5 BTC per request. However, you can create several requests and invest multiple times.

Having said that, I am not going to answer any of your other questions in this thread.
Why? Because this is what your fragile mind has conjured up: You couldn't get me in trouble with icopress, so you tried to get icopress in trouble with another campaign he manages. Because that failed, you have now slightly changed your tactics. You are going to try to present icopress and myself as bad images to Jambler, hoping to provoke us into saying something nasty or not knowing/wanting to answer your questions. After that, you plan on asking Jambler why they would want us in their campaign and that it would be best to remove us because of how terrible we are.

Did I forget something?
Go away little boy, no one is interested.   

You started off well by answering my questions and I thank you for the answers.

but then you could not hold back and attacked me and insulted me. why? no need! it was a legitimate question and I thought you were the right person to ask. this little boy will not go away and certainly not if you tell me to go away.

Once again you have proven that you are not worthy and acceptable to carry any signature and should not even get 1 sat for your insults.

[cry-pto]

If I enter as a seller, where will the bitcoins that will return to me with interest come from?  
Will these coins received with interest be accepted again if reinvested?
or do they have to go through an exchange again?

[JackpotRacer]

This isn't the place for your little games. You are not interested in Jambler, you are looking to poke me and icopress in the eye.
The answers to the questions you asked are available on the FAQ page. Not to mention, that the question was already asked and answered in this thread. The minimum investment is 0.04 BTC, the maximum one is 5 BTC per request. However, you can create several requests and invest multiple times.

Having said that, I am not going to answer any of your other questions in this thread.
Why? Because this is what your fragile mind has conjured up: You couldn't get me in trouble with icopress, so you tried to get icopress in trouble with another campaign he manages. Because that failed, you have now slightly changed your tactics. You are going to try to present icopress and myself as bad images to Jambler, hoping to provoke us into saying something nasty or not knowing/wanting to answer your questions. After that, you plan on asking Jambler why they would want us in their campaign and that it would be best to remove us because of how terrible we are.

Did I forget something?
Go away little boy, no one is interested.   

I think this is the right place to ask questions about Jambler service.
OP Jay Johanson is according to @icopress very proud of you @Pmalek and your disgusting foul language postings while showing Jambler Signature!

Sad but true

Please give me the link where the min and max is written

[GazetaBitcoin]

Hello Jay Johanson!

Since I considered this thread very useful for community at large, I decided to translate it for Romanian local board, in order to bring more visibility over Jambler service. Please find here the Romanian translation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5491345.

I will make sure to update the translation in case the original thread will suffer any change.

I hope this helps.

At same time, I will try to obtain a few more translations for this thread, but I can not guarantee for how many translations will be done. I will get back on this.

[WeedMarket]

is thisc not allowed?
 on a bitcointalk now?

how to become  Investor

[Jay Johanson]

how to become  Investor

It works.

Please visit our telegram group, there is always one of the staff there ready to answer all questions regarding any issues.

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Since you are already here, I would be grateful to receive clarification.
I noticed that all your partners have a fixed (network) fee of 0.0007 BTC per address in addition to the regular service fee (which can vary).
What interests me is, how exactly this amount was determined and what part of the costs it covers (talking about those fixed 0.0007 fees)? I assume that it is your fee because all partners have the same amount for it.

Also, with the rise in the price of Bitcoin, this fee is certainly no longer negligible, it is currently around $50. Most of the competitors are much cheaper here, or we can consider this as your targeting of large transactions.

[hugeblack]

I was wondering what would happen if there was a problem with the [banned mixer] partner. Will [banned mixer] be responsible, or will the partners bear the damage of any technical error/scamming?
Is it possible to mix coins without going through https://api.[banned mixer]?

[icopress]

I was wondering what would happen if there was a problem with the [banned mixer] partner. Will [banned mixer] be responsible, or will the partners bear the damage of any technical error/scamming?

Jambler will bear full responsibility and will make a full refund for any case if the digital signature in the letter of guarantee is valid. But if someone deploys the Jambler API, runs ads... and then deletes the API and makes a substitution (and supposedly continues to provide services, then Jambler is not responsible). It is for such cases that Jambler's PGP is indicated in partners' letters of guarantee... so that the user can make sure that the partner really uses Jambler software.

Is it possible to mix coins without going through https://api.[banned mixer]?

This is out of the question. But hypothetically, you can become a partner, deploy the API without deploying the frontend (and as a partner, you can even adjust the commission rate). This way, any mix you make will go through your affiliate node, and you will be the end client of your affiliate node. But what I'm talking about usually happens when testing occurs before deploying the front end.

But if you are talking about sending bitcoins through the investment account, then I can say that from 2018 to this day there have been many attempts by unscrupulous users to abuse the investment function, and it is for such cases that strict control is exercised.

To eliminate risks of getting a cryptocurrency of questionable origin, all investor Bitcoins are checked by the platform scoring system, including blockchain analysis. Transactions which have passed the check, get into the system and transaction which have failed the check, are returned to a customer from the same wallet. This stage makes it possible to terminate attempts of unfair investors to use an investment admittance as a mixer in order to clear their money and gain profit at the same time. [banned mixer] does not capitalize on return of cryptocoins which haven’t passed the scoring check, it is a necessary security measure.

What are stock exchanges supported?

Poloniex, Binance, Korbit, Bitfinex, Bitstamp, Pbit, GDAX, Okcoin, Kraken, Gemini, BTCC, CEX.IO, itBit, Simex, Lakebtc, Exmo, Bitbay, Livecoin.

[hugeblack]

Jambler will bear full responsibility and will make a full refund for any case if the digital signature in the letter of guarantee is valid.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but according to the definition of [banned mixer] Partners^[1], where the Partner is required to create an account, cannot control the deposit addresses,  cannot change the mixing algorithm, Jambler bears full responsibility, all the mixing process takes place via https://api.[banned mixer], we can say:

 - [banned mixer]: is a private mixer that allows all users to interact with api.[banned mixer] using a special token.

 - Partners: They are front-end api.[banned mixer] clones, so there is no difference between them because they all lead to api.[banned mixer], Jambler does not even mention that it customizes an independent mixing algorithm for any partners, the only change is UI design and the commission fees they receive.

Installation code ----> https://github.com/jambler-io/bitcoin-mixer/blob/master/mixer-install.sh


source --> https://[banned mixer]/become-partner.php

Note step number 3, customer sends his coins to [banned mixer] and not to partner.

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How can I create my own Bitcoin mixer?
It is very simple! You do not have to implement mixer algorithms by yourself or seek for finance to form operating assets, we did that for you.

To create your own mixer, you should follow several steps:

1. Register on the [banned mixer] website as a partner, specify a BTC wallet for profit receipt and your mixer commission, configure an automated withdrawal of funds and enter a project name. The platform will generate BTC addresses, issue letters of guarantee on your behalf, control monetary flows and transfer profits to you.

2. Develop website design of your own mixer or use a template which we have prepared for you. In your personal account you can find HTML templates for Tor and Clearnet mixer version, PHP gateway to connect to our system. Download and upload them to your hosting.