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July 13, 2018, 09:58:45 PM
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There are a few mistakes that a lot of Newbies make, I'm sure I had a few earlier on as well. This is a small list of ways to do things, and things to avoid.

Before I get to the small things that you can work on here are 2 that need to be taken very seriously.

Plagiarism is not tolerated. Quote all sources both internal and external to BTCtalk.

Strive for quality posts. You need to be aware of your limitations and post accordingly, if you can not put together a post in any language without a translator you have no business posting in that section. In addition to this if your post has no net benefit to the conversation it should not be posted.


Quoting

Where do I type??

Review the below code for the example

Code:
[quote]This is where the text you have quoted appears[/quote]
 You need to type your reply text outside of the quote such as I have done here

Nested quotes are generally unnecessary and can make reading a thread painful, IMO.

Example provided so you can see what they look like. There are

With this conversation there is no need to keep all the quotes nested. To keep a board clean and easily readable, you can go in and remove multiple nested quotes by simply selecting them and deleting them.

Code:
[quote author=BiteByte link=topic=3238497.msg33953753#msg33953753 date=1522878326]
***SELECT FROM HERE***[quote author=DIXxX link=topic=3238497.msg33952812#msg33952812 date=1522876924]
[quote author=BiteByte link=topic=3238497.msg33944794#msg33944794 date=1522868415]
[quote author=DIXxX link=topic=3238497.msg33928296#msg33928296 date=1522854616]
[quote author=g0lden link=topic=3238497.msg33887346#msg33887346 date=1522812845]
[quote author=DIXxX link=topic=3238497.msg33820658#msg33820658 date=1522745047]
Greed of you people will be the end of Crypto...this coin looked promising, but whenever money starts appearing devs get into "fight" and leaving, splitting ect, no matter what coin is at stake...so sad
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lol dude crypto ain't going no where - humanity ain't changed.  It was the same shit when the internet came out.  I don't even know what happened w/ the drama here, I just came for some info on the amd gpu mining, dont really care about the drama, shit will sort itself out.  Don't get too emotionally invested in one project though, tbh.  maybe except bitcoin ;)

and even that, should have a well diversified (but not over diversified) portfolio regardless of buying / trading / mining - from trading I learned not to get attached to a project .... it was hard to let go, trust me

and i ain't saying ravencoin won't be a huge project that changes the world, it very well may be, it's one of the more promising ones in my pov, but i've also now got my own set of indiciators i use to determine potential use case, market target, dev team, mining opportunity, etc
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For me it lost its credibility...mining different things ATM. I am not emotional d00de :) just saying the obvious...there are fewer and fewer good projects. Shitty moves like these, whether they are doing it as strategy or on purpose, just goes along with global state mind of governments that crypto will be regulated and when regulation comes, you think they will let everybody participate like the case is today?? I don't think so...
[/quote]So you in or out?
 I succumbed to this thinking in 2010 with Bitcoin and have about 1-2k BTC on an old laptop or it's removed hard drive somewhere in this world - probably a dump
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Unsure, not sure if pigeon being developed has something with this and will it turn into some messy thing, hope I'm way off...but, in general, I went into mining to help my sick brother who lost both kidneys with 34g, sold my car. Issue is I went in January this year, so I would be lying if money is not important for me, but I think it very much differs from greed that makes people do shitty things where people in a similar situation, for example, might end up screwed...I believe the tech can do amazing things, I believe in that...problem is rarely in tech. I will halve my efforts and hodl for time being
[/quote] ***SELECT TO HERE*** Aha. Yes that is a understandable an gives perspective. The bad actors in this space that show up continuously makes me wonder what they really get out of ripping people off. Nothing really... just cash that they will waste and temporary self satisfaction that they tricked someone out of money.
I don't think this is the case with RavenCoin and they have just had a speed bump with the community leader. If they left it as was I think it would have been worse and had more attacks about not doing anything to rectify it.

If you started mining RVN in Jan you will have a big stash by now. I started this with the risk of it not being worth anything for a year so just holding as well and happy with it. I was enjoying the community but just waiting for all the mining questions to go away :-)
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Looking at the full quote above if you select between the from here and the to here section and delete you will be left with a single quote. You can also use this same select and delete method to remove unnecessary portions of any quote for your reply. This allows you to provide context to your reply without the unnecessary portions of the quote.

Quoting the entire last reply

This is usually unnecessary, should you want to respond to a portion edit only that portion into the quote. Doing so makes your posts look sloppy, and in instances of a rather lengthy post can make for a ridiculously long page. In 99% of instances you can easily edit out a large portion of the last reply as it will be directly above your post. Example found here unless edited.

More IMO

Myself if I am quoting a post that has an image in it, I will delete the image from the quote because there is no need to have the image reappear on the same page, IMO. This helps keep the thread length down by reducing the amount of redundant posts being requoted.

Generally there is no reason to quote the entire OP of a topic, this again just ads to the length of the page and can make for a terrible read. This is especially true in ANN threads, or  posts that are lengthy to begin with.

There are of course exceptions to everything but for the most part I find this to be a good general practice

Post content

The great wall

Please avoid this:
This is a completely nonsensical amount of writing I am putting together for the purpose of building a great wall of shit. A lot of times people with nothing noteworthy of being said will type and type and type to their hearts content. This is done in an attempt to look smart most of the time, and fails miserably because who really wants to read this. Granted sometimes this is done unintentionally because a user gets excited in their writing and doesn't take the time to preview the text and reformat. Either way the end result is usually the same a loss of interest by line 2... probably already happened here, so why am I still typing. Oh right because I really want to hammer home the point that a wall of text sucks to look at. What would be really crappy of me is to only include my tips and advice for solving this here, but I won't do that because I genuinely want people to learn. Maybe one day someone will have something useful I want to read and thanks to this post they will not cram it into a wall and I can cram that great well formatted read into my mind.
I have top ad to this as I had to format this better than most walls of text just to get the point across within the code board.Learn something new everyday. In this case that using the code option was pointless. I will ad that this is still fairly small to some of the great ones out there but I'm not going to continue scouring for massive text walls.


Now you can easily solve this problem in 3 steps.
  • You are not writing a college essay, so don't pad the post with words/sentences/paragraphs that are unnecessary
  • Hitting the "Enter" button once or twice to separate thoughts is a nice way to break things up into readable chunks
  • Get to the point, you don't have to say everything in one post. Understand you may wind up having a conversation on the topic so holding back some information is fine if it isn't pertinent to the post. There will be other opportunities to use it fluidly within the conversation

Multiple Posts

Please learn to use the edit button should you have something to ad, this is found in the top right corner of your post. You can also reply to more than one person, or point by learning how to format quotes properly. This is simple enough to learn so don't wait to be reported and make the MODS do it for you, as this is against forum rules.

Caps, Font and the joy of Preview

You have a great amount of leeway in the way you can format your post. When doing so use the preview button below the post to see how it looks. A poorly formatted post can mask even the best information. Examples of this are poor choice of color for they type, increasing the size of font to much. These issues and so many more can be solved by previewing and correcting the issues before posting.

Some users find all caps annoying, and can also be taken as you are yelling. Instead of using all caps why not try using the Bold option for that portion of the post. If you are planning on using this for a topic title because it may draw in more responses, you may want to either write a better title or come up with a better topic if you find yourself needing a gimmick.

Images

This is a small note as many users post links as opposed to embedding images. If you do use the img code be sure to use an appropriate size for the image. Personally I select either small or medium when using the code provided by imgur.

See this post by Shazam!!! for self modifying image size.


All in all these are just some small tips to some of the more common problems I see. If you read the entire OP I would say reading up on using the BB code the forum uses as it opens up a lot of options for your future posting. This can be found under help -> posting.






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July 14, 2018, 04:11:09 PM
Last edit: August 12, 2018, 09:22:57 PM by Steamtyme
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Reserved.

Let me know if you feel I missed something or made an error.

Edit: Added link to post by Shazam!!! regarding image sizing

Edit: Added "Quotting the last reply" and "Multiple posts"

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July 14, 2018, 04:34:43 PM
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Months ago, I have created topics on almost the same purposes as yours.
tbct_mt2's Guideline on some forum functions, English texbooks


Hope that you can find something helpful in my topics!

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July 14, 2018, 09:34:40 PM
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Hope that you can find something helpful in my topics!

While there is some overlap, I tried to encapsulate more than just the quoting. I left you a merit as I think you are trying to help improve the forum.

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You're doing good with your tutorials as of late. I have a suggestion regarding images. Make a note to readers, that noobies
can post them, but they will only "show up" as a link to the image. This will change as they rank up.

Also, an easy way to adjust image size is to add width=××× after the first "img" in the tag in the code,
like this:

Width=300
Code:
[img width=300]https://i.imgur.com/BxHkAe0.gif[/img]


Width=100
Code:
[img width=100]https://i.imgur.com/BxHkAe0.gif[/img]

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Thanks, Shazam!!!

Great addition, I had that on my to do list and forgot. I linked to your post in the OP

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Please can anyone help me on how to post pictures from external sources when posting.
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Please can anyone help me on how to post pictures from external sources when posting.


Use this code:

Code:
[img]your image link here[/img]

There is a "picture button" for the code as well, when you are replying. It is directly under the I in the menu.


Note: The image will not appear when newbies post. It will only post the link. However, as you rank up, this will change.

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Also, an easy way to adjust image size is to add width=××× after the first "img" in the tag in the code,


This still results in the full image being downloaded. An alternative way to reduce the displayed image size is to resize it using free software like  Irfanview - this is a great help to members viewing the boards with a mobile device. Even better is to link to the image, rather tham embedding it.

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I am guilty that before during my early days in Bitcointalk I use to reply on nested quotes a lot until I notice that nested quotes are not a pleasant thing to see for other members including myself. So I always snip some bits by deleting the unnecessary messages or simply just by removing the quotes that I don't intend to reply too, and will only leave the quote on who I intended my reply is for. It is simple to remove some quotes just by highlighting it and pressing the backspace button you will arrive at one quote you intended to reply.

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July 28, 2018, 04:46:15 AM
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Thank for your guide
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Can I translate this, and share to Indonesian local forum?

I am fine with that.

First I would like to make sure that you are fluent in English, and forgive my ignorance, but based on google "bahasa Indonesia". I do not want anyone just using a translator to create the content.

Please also link to this original thread; and identify that you are translating the work.

When you are done, please post here and I will link to it in the OP

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Bump for visibility.

Some may find this useful on detecting and avoiding malicious links.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5027846.msg45610019#msg45610019

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March 05, 2019, 02:24:43 AM
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My topic can play as a supplementary documents for your topic.
In my topic, I collected pyramid quotes when I saw them as examples of annoying pyramid quotes.
You can get them there:
Tips for newbies, who want to avoid over-quoting

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I just discovered this good post. Adding reference in my own post with tips to write good stuff.

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Let me know if you want the link to your post removed.

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Thanks glad you appreciate the content. Feel free to reference it anywhere it helps.

I checked out your thread, congrats on your growth in the forum. Only thing I would point out is your reference to my thread actually goes to a message within the topic, not the OP.


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Plagiarism is not tolerated. Quote all sources both internal and external to BTCtalk.
This is true cancer of merit system. People want merit so badly they copy-paste many guides from forums all over the world.
Its punished, its quite well removed on time but still a problem.

Nested quotes are generally unnecessary and can make reading a thread painful, IMO.
Its dying breed i think Tongue people are just lazy to select part they are reffering to. I always do it because i want to be sure people know to what im replying exactly, whole post or just sentence of it.

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Only thing I would point out is your reference to my thread actually goes to a message within the topic, not the OP.

Absolutely correct. Fixed that!.

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This is true cancer of merit system. People want merit so badly they copy-paste many guides from forums all over the world.
Its punished, its quite well removed on time but still a problem.
So many users on bitcointalk give merits to other who are genuinely interested in helping other members that there is no need to copy/paste anything. Even if you research the issue on the internet and post the solution together with the source link, one can still get merits for that. You dont have to be the one who thought of a revolutionary idea to get merited.  

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Bump for visibility - I also see we have a nice tool to play with to help make it easier to remove them. Created by User EcuaMobi Script: Automatically remove nested quotes

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