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October 05, 2011, 04:54:11 PM
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I simply LOATHE paypal. It's another CIA/NSA front to track each and every one of us, part of the surveillance state and the monopoly money masters.

Yeah that... or it's just a large successful company trying to earn revenue and mitigate losses.

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October 05, 2011, 06:15:43 PM
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I simply LOATHE paypal. It's another CIA/NSA front to track each and every one of us, part of the surveillance state and the monopoly money masters.

Yeah that... or it's just a large successful company trying to earn revenue and mitigate losses.
An even more frightening prospect IMO.  Cheesy

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October 05, 2011, 06:25:25 PM
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I simply LOATHE paypal. It's another CIA/NSA front to track each and every one of us, part of the surveillance state and the monopoly money masters.

Yeah that... or it's just a large successful company trying to earn revenue and mitigate losses.
An even more frightening prospect IMO.  Cheesy

Do you not do not exhibit the exact same behavior in your own affairs? Will you pay $5 for a sandwich if you can get the equivalent for $4?

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October 05, 2011, 06:43:52 PM
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I simply LOATHE paypal. It's another CIA/NSA front to track each and every one of us, part of the surveillance state and the monopoly money masters.

Yeah that... or it's just a large successful company trying to earn revenue and mitigate losses.
An even more frightening prospect IMO.  Cheesy

Do you not do not exhibit the exact same behavior in your own affairs? Will you pay $5 for a sandwich if you can get the equivalent for $4?
Oh I'm not complaining. I believe in capitalism. Although I think corporate America has to much influence within the government right now.  They are not "evil", just heartless; Which is their right.   

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October 05, 2011, 09:50:14 PM
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October 06, 2011, 04:35:49 AM
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Interesting,

It's not easy for us to turn this boat on a dime, but I'll look into it.

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October 06, 2011, 05:42:12 AM
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I have to admit, I still don't know what they stand for.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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October 06, 2011, 04:52:13 PM
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I have to admit, I still don't know what they stand for.

They promised to make "one demand" of President Obama. They said they would figure out what that one demand was once they all got together.

I'm still waiting.

I saw two separate proposals in the forum with tens of demands each. One was laughable. (Forgive all loans on the planet) The other had some sense to it. (Repeal this specific piece of legislation.)

Until they can decide who they are, I'll just continue to giggle at the performance artist trying to be taken seriously.
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October 07, 2011, 02:53:12 AM
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Until they can decide who they are, I'll just continue to giggle at the performance artist trying to be taken seriously.

Why do they need to boil their issue down to one?  There is so much wrong with The System that no one issue will fix it. 

end the war on drugs,
claw back the 20 trillion that bernanke "loaned" to foreign central banks and corporations,
end the unlawful income tax,
end personhood for corporations,
end the Fed,
correct the Citizens United ruling
GMOs
nuclear industry is killing everything
end the patriot act
end the forever wars

I could go on for days.
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October 07, 2011, 03:59:55 AM
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Why do they need to boil their issue down to one?  There is so much wrong with The System that no one issue will fix it. 

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The beauty of this new formula, and what makes this novel tactic exciting, is its pragmatic simplicity: we talk to each other in various physical gatherings and virtual people's assemblies … we zero in on what our one demand will be, a demand that awakens the imagination and, if achieved, would propel us toward the radical democracy of the future … and then we go out and seize a square of singular symbolic significance and put our asses on the line to make it happen.

The time has come to deploy this emerging stratagem against the greatest corrupter of our democracy: Wall Street, the financial Gomorrah of America.

On September 17, we want to see 20,000 people flood into lower Manhattan, set up tents, kitchens, peaceful barricades and occupy Wall Street for a few months. Once there, we shall incessantly repeat one simple demand in a plurality of voices.

Tahrir succeeded in large part because the people of Egypt made a straightforward ultimatum – that Mubarak must go – over and over again until they won. Following this model, what is our equally uncomplicated demand?

Really, I didn't make up the "one demand" rule. It was part of the protest from the beginning. They didn't know what it would be when they started. They still don't know what it is.

At least the Tea Party guys had demands like, "Write the laws down BEFORE you vote on them, so everyone can actually read what they are supporting or opposing."

But not these guys. They want undying loyalty before they even decide what want. I don't know if I can get behind them yet. Maybe their demand is Obama start killing kittens? I simply have no idea.

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October 07, 2011, 08:34:58 AM
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Pretty sobering to see how few bitcoins have been donated for occupy wallstreet so far
Best I can tell:

187 BTC for the general assembly:
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173 for feed the protest.
http://blockexplorer.com/address/1EUqkFmL9HNpBRvbWRAqCiUjepaR7Vbryp

I suspect they've received worth more in tampons and socks.

Common folks, Im sure most people here support the protest, donating bitcoins is the obvious thing to do. Surely you can miss 5 or 10BTC?

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October 07, 2011, 01:39:53 PM
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Since this is an organic and spontaneous event it should not be a surprise that they have no articulated demands. 
My guess is that more established lobby groups will try co-opting the movement with their own agendas. Like what happened to the tea party on the right.

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October 07, 2011, 01:52:50 PM
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nuclear industry is killing everything
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If i'm not mistaken, coal plants put out more radioactivity than nuclear plants; and the deathcount attributed to energy sources other than nuclear are way bigger...

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October 07, 2011, 02:05:48 PM
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nuclear industry is killing everything
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If i'm not mistaken, coal plants put out more radioactivity than nuclear plants; and the deathcount attributed to energy sources other than nuclear are way bigger...

yep, coal is directly and indirectly attributed to more deaths than nuclear power has ever been.

Oh also, Mods please don't delete my posts, I posted one in here and now it is gone because apparently you did not agree with my point that he didn't read the ToS or paypal about them being allowed to recoup losses incurred by fraud that is commited against you but whatever
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October 07, 2011, 02:12:01 PM
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oh wait it's because you foolishly made multiple copies of this exact thread with the same title and content and everything, which is bound to cause confusion.
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October 07, 2011, 05:13:55 PM
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Common folks, Im sure most people here support the protest, donating bitcoins is the obvious thing to do. Surely you can miss 5 or 10BTC?

Actually I am sure most people here oppose the Occupy Wall Street protests.

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October 07, 2011, 06:04:05 PM
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I must say some of the things said on this thread are the most ridiculous I've ever heard.
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October 07, 2011, 06:21:16 PM
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I must say some of the things said on this thread are the most ridiculous I've ever heard.

You're going to have to be more specific.  Regardless, you must not spend much time on the Internet.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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October 07, 2011, 06:48:50 PM
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Actually I am sure most people here oppose the Occupy Wall Street protests.

Why?

I'm not disagreeing; just curious.

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October 07, 2011, 06:58:08 PM
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Actually I am sure most people here oppose the Occupy Wall Street protests.

Why?

I'm not disagreeing; just curious.

I'm more or less on the fence, but I can guess as to what he is refering to.  Most people here are libertarian leaning, to some degree or another.  Such a political ideology, whether we agree with their greviences or not, doesn't tend to view groupthink, mob action, or popular group identity politics with much respect.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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