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shouldn't we plant billions of trees now? because

oxygen level since 1990

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and there are more than 2000 species of trees with edible fruits and nuts and berries



trees produce 21 Million calories per acre

trees produce oxygen and wealth and wildlife habitat and food and timber.



cows produce 1 Million calories per acre

cows produce

Methane which is 30 times higher effect heat-trapping greenhouse gas
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I don't see why planting many trees would not help, so I am in favor of stopping unnecessary deforestation. But it won't stop because demand is increasing. Why is demand increasing? Who needs wood, well, humans...

So would you agree that if the human population would not increase/not decrease/decrease it would help oxygen levels to rise through trees? And don't forget, even if we plant trees and the human population continues to increase, humans will simply consume the newly produced oxygen.

So, I think planting trees will help, but it is just putting a tiny blister on a big wound. Let me know if you agree or disagree
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I don't see why planting many trees would not help, so I am in favor of stopping unnecessary deforestation. But it won't stop because demand is increasing. Why is demand increasing? Who needs wood, well, humans...

So would you agree that if the human population would not increase/not decrease/decrease it would help oxygen levels to rise through trees? And don't forget, even if we plant trees and the human population continues to increase, humans will simply consume the newly produced oxygen.

So, I think planting trees will help, but it is just putting a tiny blister on a big wound. Let me know if you agree or disagree
i totally agree. for example Deforestation in the Amazon rainforest has decreased by 18 percent as of 2014, so hopefully that number is only going up

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July 16, 2018, 01:49:28 PM
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We should start it a year ago, when we start using trees as our necessity. Its not a joke when someone says you're wasting the trees when you didn't use the paper properly. Trees functions as our factory of oxygen, without them, the oxygen present in our atmosphere will be gone. It simply cannot supply the whole human and animal race. If we still disregard the importance of tree planting, and continue to destroy the nature, I will not doubt that someday we will be buying oxygen cans, oxygen tanks, and even masks just to inhaling all the toxics present in our air.
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July 16, 2018, 02:29:11 PM
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Its not a joke when someone says you're wasting the trees when you didn't use the paper properly.
Yes it is. The logging industry replants the forests they chop down to ensure they have a constantly regrowing supply. Wood is the very definition of a renewable resource. Deforestation is actually mainly the result of increasing demand for farmland - and you've only got the rising world population to blame for that.

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Planting more trees isn't the right solution. We should cut CO2 emissions, thing that is not so easy to implement when you have superpowers (like USA) who oppose such changes...
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July 17, 2018, 12:10:55 PM
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We should plant billions of trees because there are more cases of erosion in many countries of which planting of trees will help to reduce the erosion. Moreover, planting of trees will pose a very high economic advantage because we can get wood used for building houses, wood used for manufacturing papers and cartoons.

We should also remember that tress gives us oxygen and take Carbonivoxide for its growth not only that some trees serve are used for treatment one health problem or the other meaning we should be  planting trees .

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July 17, 2018, 03:18:38 PM
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Planting more trees isn't the right solution. We should cut CO2 emissions, thing that is not so easy to implement when you have superpowers (like USA) who oppose such changes...

Certainly both courses of action would be beneficial to the environment. There is agreement among 99% or so of the scientific community that this needs to be done, or we face very serious consequences.

At the same time, trees absorb CO2 and convert it into Oxygen. Deforestation continues to outpace reforestation and tree planting, so the easiest thing you can do as an individual is to plant more trees. And it doesn't have to cost you anything...find some trees, look for their seeds on the ground and bury them a couple inches under the soil in various places.
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July 17, 2018, 04:07:28 PM
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shouldn't we plant billions of trees now?....
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No.

You do that, you are disturbing existing ecosystems without caring about them.
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July 17, 2018, 04:09:57 PM
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shouldn't we plant billions of trees now?....
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No.

You do that, you are disturbing existing ecosystems without caring about them.

This right here, if you're planting BILLIONS of trees you're going to cause a shit ton of problems for ecosystems which have already grown accustomed to not having these areas around. Plus the fact that I don't know where people plan on planting these billions of trees.

No one is going to be happy when you ask them to leave their homes (or force them to leave their homes) so you can plant some trees.

A noble goal, but one which won't come to fruition.

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July 18, 2018, 03:59:28 PM
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Shouldn't we plant tress now? Well I think the more appropriate question would be, why not? I mean, the advocacy of planting trees will greatly contribute to the welfare of the species here on Earth and to the increase of environmental protection. I am sure that this will lessen the excessive carbon emmisions on the Earth's atmosphere. Furthermore, the trees are proven already to be a stress reliever as it gives a positive psychological feeling that turns their moods and emotions into a good and pleasant one. It is undeniably true that planting tress will make our ecosystem more active and beneficial. However, we cannot just ignore the "billion" detail in the question. First, I do not think that it is possible in today's setup since almost all of the lands contain imfrastructures and buildings. Second, maybe extremely large number of tress will not make our ecosystem balanced and well-rounded. Lastly, billions means 1:1 ratio of people planting tress and the tress they are planting ang that's quite a lot and 'useless'. Thus, we shoukd plant tress, but not as many as billions are

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July 19, 2018, 10:00:17 AM
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We should. The beneficial effects of trees and plants to the environment are enormous.

Unfortunately, mismanaged urbanisation and deforestation are ugly heads that the governments and each one of us must find ways to tame.
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July 21, 2018, 12:15:07 AM
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Yes because we know illegal deforestation we cant stop.nowadays flood is everywhere in all over the country.one reason is illegal deforestation.so I do believe we need to plant trees now to replace for the trees they cut it.
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July 21, 2018, 06:05:36 AM
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Forests in Russia's Siberia are being destroyed massively by chinese (long term land lease)
dec 2017 video from google earth, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IloOgweXKo0
its also massively floating in the rivers there
So i am not sure that anyone from the government of any country gives a damn about it
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July 24, 2018, 05:20:09 PM
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I think billions is a far too exaggerated number, but of course it's good to plant trees. I don't think there are many people out there saying that we shouldn't plant trees. It's more of an economical issue. What is the motivation for people to plant so many trees? Will you volunteer to plan them for free? Most trees are planted by companies. They plant the tress either because government regulation forces them to or because they stand to gain something from it. When I was younger, I spent some time planting trees for a company. As far as I understand it, the company cut down trees and then planted trees to replace them. It's good that they do that, but they do it because they'll make money from that land again in the future.
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August 11, 2018, 07:34:22 PM
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shouldn't we plant billions of trees now?....
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You do that, you are disturbing existing ecosystems without caring about them.

Okay, maybe planting billions of trees sounds a little too much to me, too, but what about illegal (or legal, whatever(?)) deforestation? Isn't is disturbing existing ecosystems without caring about them? Didn't it even occur to anyone that we must at least compensate for the harm we have already done to balance it out?
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August 11, 2018, 07:50:39 PM
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shouldn't we plant billions of trees now?....
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You do that, you are disturbing existing ecosystems without caring about them.

Okay, maybe planting billions of trees sounds a little too much to me, too, but what about illegal (or legal, whatever(?)) deforestation? Isn't is disturbing existing ecosystems without caring about them? Didn't it even occur to anyone that we must at least compensate for the harm we have already done to balance it out?
Well, of course we need to approach things rationally. You can't put trees that are not native to a region there without studying it first. They are plenty of trees that you can't put too close together or that you shouldn't put near certain other kinds of trees. The key is though that, like you say, CokeIHead, we should at least replace what we've already removed. The ideal situation would be if we could replace at least all the trees that we're already cutting down. Ideally, they should be the same kind of trees too.
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August 12, 2018, 10:32:09 AM
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There are lots of private and government sectors who held  tree planting project.To help more about it there should be restriction regarding deforestation/illegal logging and widely implement a clean and green environment for eveyones benefits.
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Today’s generation, money is one of the most important things in the world. There’s a saying that money is the blood bank of the world, but do you know where the money made? It is unknown to the majority that the main component of the money comes from hemp (abaca), a kind of tree in the whole of Asia that is only can be seen in the Philippines.
In Sitio Banli that is one of the furthest site in Malapatag Saranggani Province in the Philippines that one of the major means of livelihood of the residences is by taking abaca (hemps). It’s not a joke traveling in the most isolated site in Saranggani. It almost four hours travel going there from the City of Saranggani. We purposely went off at night so as we arrived at dawn, a small community met our eyes.

Mountains in this area have been in the NPA conflict area for several years so we still have a few soldiers from the Philippine Army.It is so steep to climb in the mountain of Sitio Banli that’s why only few people are climbed up in this hidden jungle. a short time ago a tremendously heavy part of the mountain struck us. I do not know who and why these trees are cut off, but over a period of time when I climb the mountains I know it's a bad sight. Four hours later, a lot of houses we saw in the distance. The mountains surround the small Sitio of Banli which is one of the most poor place in the whole of Saranggani, although one of the most area that the sources of the substance of money came from, the abaca. We walked two hours to reach the remote community.


A woman holding a baby greeted me at Sitio Banli, her name was Inday, her son Marico was only one year old but his weight was just four months old. By the side of her, there’s a three-year-old  named Manny, in his cheek and size it was easy to think that she was healthy, but this is not the first time I've seen this kind of body. I know this is not a common fat. It's been a year since I climbed the mountain of Datangnay in the Saraggani province, like Manny's face and the body of the children there, they were all sick of a kind of maltnutrition caused by lack of protein in the body, that’s the effect if you only eat sweet potato all the time. I did not make a mistake in my suspicion, it’s about going to twelve and Manny's dad was still tending to find lunch. Sweet potatoes are their meal every day, morning, noon, and until evening.
 Abaca farmer is the majority of Sitio Banli but because harvesting Abaca is seasonal, they only have money once a year.


The Abaca fiber is the strongest in the world. In All Asia in the Philippines only the Abaca tree is located. Only big Abaca trees can be used to get the fiber, and it should be carefully cut to get the skin. Because Abaca is one of the strongest fiber in the world, it is also used not only for straps and fabrics but also for paper and money that even if it gets wet it’s not easily tear, but it requires strong forces to recover each fiber of abaca. Forty pesos of Abaca's sales per kilogram, Abaca's three trees have to cut and process for a pound of fiber. Forty pesos per kilo is a big source of income if there are so many sources of fiber. At that time, thrice a  year they harvesting the Abaca. But all this changed through the millennium, that was the began to grow bare the mountains. The Abaca tree only grow most of the time in place near with water so it only grows near the river or in areas of shady and cold, when the mountains are blown up, when the trees are gone, the shady that Abaca trees need will be reduced. As I watched the glazed leaves of Abaca, returning to the memories the trees were consuming inexhaustible. So if before they were three times in a year that they were harvesting, now only once a year. One thousand pesos in a year which is eighty pesos per month. I thought of Manny and his brothers, what would cost or would you buy in eighty pesos just only in a month for the children of Tusan.

In the house of Mang Tusan, a bunch of Abaca is stored. It has been a year since its inception, one year when children are looking for sale in Abaca, one year they have been waiting for the opportunity to taste a dish and rice. But to sell Abaca it must be bring at the bottom of the mountain. Mang Tusan will be responsible for six hours of calvary just for all of his children.
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Today’s generation, money is one of the most important things in the world. There’s a saying that money is the blood bank of the world, but do you know where the money made? It is unknown to the majority that the main component of the money comes from hemp (abaca), a kind of tree in the whole of Asia that is only can be seen in the Philippines.
In Sitio Banli that is one of the furthest site in Malapatag Saranggani Province in the Philippines that one of the major means of livelihood of the residences is by taking abaca (hemps). It’s not a joke traveling in the most isolated site in Saranggani. It almost four hours travel going there from the City of Saranggani. We purposely went off at night so as we arrived at dawn, a small community met our eyes.

Mountains in this area have been in the NPA conflict area for several years so we still have a few soldiers from the Philippine Army.It is so steep to climb in the mountain of Sitio Banli that’s why only few people are climbed up in this hidden jungle. a short time ago a tremendously heavy part of the mountain struck us. I do not know who and why these trees are cut off, but over a period of time when I climb the mountains I know it's a bad sight. Four hours later, a lot of houses we saw in the distance. The mountains surround the small Sitio of Banli which is one of the most poor place in the whole of Saranggani, although one of the most area that the sources of the substance of money came from, the abaca. We walked two hours to reach the remote community.


A woman holding a baby greeted me at Sitio Banli, her name was Inday, her son Marico was only one year old but his weight was just four months old. By the side of her, there’s a three-year-old  named Manny, in his cheek and size it was easy to think that she was healthy, but this is not the first time I've seen this kind of body. I know this is not a common fat. It's been a year since I climbed the mountain of Datangnay in the Saraggani province, like Manny's face and the body of the children there, they were all sick of a kind of maltnutrition caused by lack of protein in the body, that’s the effect if you only eat sweet potato all the time. I did not make a mistake in my suspicion, it’s about going to twelve and Manny's dad was still tending to find lunch. Sweet potatoes are their meal every day, morning, noon, and until evening.
 Abaca farmer is the majority of Sitio Banli but because harvesting Abaca is seasonal, they only have money once a year.


The Abaca fiber is the strongest in the world. In All Asia in the Philippines only the Abaca tree is located. Only big Abaca trees can be used to get the fiber, and it should be carefully cut to get the skin. Because Abaca is one of the strongest fiber in the world, it is also used not only for straps and fabrics but also for paper and money that even if it gets wet it’s not easily tear, but it requires strong forces to recover each fiber of abaca. Forty pesos of Abaca's sales per kilogram, Abaca's three trees have to cut and process for a pound of fiber. Forty pesos per kilo is a big source of income if there are so many sources of fiber. At that time, thrice a  year they harvesting the Abaca. But all this changed through the millennium, that was the began to grow bare the mountains. The Abaca tree only grow most of the time in place near with water so it only grows near the river or in areas of shady and cold, when the mountains are blown up, when the trees are gone, the shady that Abaca trees need will be reduced. As I watched the glazed leaves of Abaca, returning to the memories the trees were consuming inexhaustible. So if before they were three times in a year that they were harvesting, now only once a year. One thousand pesos in a year which is eighty pesos per month. I thought of Manny and his brothers, what would cost or would you buy in eighty pesos just only in a month for the children of Tusan.

In the house of Mang Tusan, a bunch of Abaca is stored. It has been a year since its inception, one year when children are looking for sale in Abaca, one year they have been waiting for the opportunity to taste a dish and rice. But to sell Abaca it must be bring at the bottom of the mountain. Mang Tusan will be responsible for six hours of calvary just for all of his children.

Do you mean what is used to actually create banknotes? I didn't actually know about much this before you wrote, thanks. I read a little about abaca on Wikipedia. You should keep in mind that many countries are actually switching to polymer money. This new money is made of plastic. The following countries only use polymer notes now: Australia, Brunei, Canada, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Romania and Vietnam. These countries also have some, but not all their money in polymer: Bangladesh, Brazil, Chile, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Hong Kong (for a 2-year trial), Indonesia, Israel, Kuwait, Malaysia, Mexico, Nepal, Philippines (no longer issued), Solomon Islands (no longer issued), Samoa, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Thailand and Zambia. I guess this will be better to no longer harm the trees in the Philippines. This would probably hurt the economy there a lot though. You didn't really answer, do you think that they should be planting more trees there?
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