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September 11, 2018, 05:21:45 PM
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I've heard that planting trees at this point is useless.Estimations state that even planting the entire planet with trees wouldn't be sufficient to avoid earth's temperature keep getting higher."Planting trees hype" became just an excuse for associations to earn quick bucks.
Instead,we need to limit usage of fossil energy and replace it by other sources of energy environment-friendly like sun and wind.

This will not solve the root cause of the issue.

We need to reduce our global population growth to zero, or make it slightly negative.  Only then you will see some positive results, in few generations.

As it is now we are on track to be hit by a moving train.

Renewable energy would do squat when your energy demand doubles every 70 years due to the population growth.
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September 11, 2018, 08:24:43 PM
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I've heard that planting trees at this point is useless.Estimations state that even planting the entire planet with trees wouldn't be sufficient to avoid earth's temperature keep getting higher."Planting trees hype" became just an excuse for associations to earn quick bucks.
Instead,we need to limit usage of fossil energy and replace it by other sources of energy environment-friendly like sun and wind.

This will not solve the root cause of the issue.

We need to reduce our global population growth to zero, or make it slightly negative.  Only then you will see some positive results, in few generations.

As it is now we are on track to be hit by a moving train.

Renewable energy would do squat when your energy demand doubles every 70 years due to the population growth.

It JUST needs some immediate change on a veeery big scale Undecided
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September 12, 2018, 12:15:49 AM
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I've heard that planting trees at this point is useless.Estimations state that even planting the entire planet with trees wouldn't be sufficient to avoid earth's temperature keep getting higher."Planting trees hype" became just an excuse for associations to earn quick bucks.
Instead,we need to limit usage of fossil energy and replace it by other sources of energy environment-friendly like sun and wind.

This will not solve the root cause of the issue.

We need to reduce our global population growth to zero, or make it slightly negative.  Only then you will see some positive results, in few generations.

As it is now we are on track to be hit by a moving train.

Renewable energy would do squat when your energy demand doubles every 70 years due to the population growth.

It JUST needs some immediate change on a veeery big scale Undecided
All right.

Billions of trees won't cut it.

Let's go for trillions.
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September 12, 2018, 10:57:55 AM
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I've heard that planting trees at this point is useless.Estimations state that even planting the entire planet with trees wouldn't be sufficient to avoid earth's temperature keep getting higher."Planting trees hype" became just an excuse for associations to earn quick bucks.
Instead,we need to limit usage of fossil energy and replace it by other sources of energy environment-friendly like sun and wind.

This will not solve the root cause of the issue.

We need to reduce our global population growth to zero, or make it slightly negative.  Only then you will see some positive results, in few generations.

As it is now we are on track to be hit by a moving train.

Renewable energy would do squat when your energy demand doubles every 70 years due to the population growth.

It JUST needs some immediate change on a veeery big scale Undecided
All right.

Billions of trees won't cut it.

Let's go for trillions.

Point taken Cheesy but let's be honest, addressing the root-problem isn't gonna happen soon, therefore it is still better to fight symptoms than don't do nothing. E.g. the energy sector, why not ban the construction of any non-renewable power plants? For now, it's about damage control in my opinion. But even if we exploit this planet to it's limit, there are still projects like the ocean cleanup, of course it's fighting symptoms, but still giving me hope. Changing human behavior and creating a more balanced and healthy world takes a lot of time. But small changes sometimes can have a huge impact https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa5OBhXz-Q
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September 12, 2018, 08:45:00 PM
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.....why not ban the construction of any non-renewable power plants?...

For one reason, you'd be forcing a billion people in Africa to live in dire poverty like their ancestors.

For another reason, renewable cannot supply backbone power for grids.

Final reason, you'd be banning nuclear, which is the future of power.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2018/09/11/had-they-bet-on-nuclear-not-renewables-germany-california-would-already-have-100-clean-power/#16dc7e0e0d44
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September 13, 2018, 03:17:06 PM
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It's hard to say yes or no, because there are lots of contradictory opinions on the subject, I prefer to leave the matter for the professionals. In the meantime, you might like to read the articles below:

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/20/opinion/to-save-the-planet-dont-plant-trees.html

http://wwf.panda.org/get_involved/plant_seed.cfm/
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September 13, 2018, 11:11:15 PM
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It's hard to say yes or no, because there are lots of contradictory opinions on the subject, I prefer to leave the matter for the professionals. In the meantime, you might like to read the articles below:

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/20/opinion/to-save-the-planet-dont-plant-trees.html

http://wwf.panda.org/get_involved/plant_seed.cfm/

What a surprising opinion from NY Times! I couldn't even imagine that possibility. Thanks for sharing!
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